# Hey, Company. Not everyone is a Millennial. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 24, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974 "2019-06-24T16:12:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/61 "2019-06-25T22:48:47Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > No, the guy said you _had_ to use a smartphone. But they got enough complaints that they built a proper remote control and supplied it with later televisions. What was the model number? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/62 "2019-06-26T00:35:50Z")
> [@FairyChatMom](#): > > I don’t have a smart phone, not because I’m a Luddite,… That’s my excuse. Posted from My Dixie-Cups-On-A-String ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/63 "2019-06-26T01:51:25Z")
> [@chingon](#): > > what was the model number? xrt136 ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/64 "2019-06-26T01:55:51Z")
I mean for the TV. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/65 "2019-06-26T02:09:39Z")
I think it’s an E60-E3. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/66 "2019-06-26T02:29:40Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Hey, I’m still sore about them taking all the controls off of the TV itself and putting them on the remote. Remotes get lost, or run out of batteries, or get chewed up by the dog, and when that happens, it’s a lot better to have the inconvenience of having to get off the couch than to have the inconvenience of not being able to use the TV at all. > > And I was born in 1977, and the first time I heard the term “Millennial” was when my sister (born 1974) sent me an e-mail listing all the touchstones of our generation and identifying us as millennials. Guess who complains loudly about all “those millennials” now? Neither of yinz are [millenials](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials), especially not your sister. I’d say you fall into late Gen X, like me. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/67 "2019-06-26T10:43:28Z")
I hear what y’all are saying, but I’d like to point out that for those of us with smartphones, things are grand. Last night I was setting up a pork butt in a sous vide cooker. This was to be a 72 hour bath, and I remembered that on _this_ sous vide unit (we have three) there was something special I needed to do to go beyond 48 hours. I could have searched our filing cabinet for the original instruction book, but it was easier to just search for it on my phone. A minute later, everything was set. This morning I looked at my phone to check on the cooking (the sous vide is Bluetooth and wifi enabled) and all is well. If my smartphone died right now, I’d call off work and procur an immediate replacement rather than go without for any length of time. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/68 "2019-06-26T11:37:15Z")
> **[Amazon.com: New Vizio Universal Remote Control for All VIZIO BRAND TV, Smart TV...](https://www.amazon.com/Vizio-Universal-Remote-Control-VIZIO/dp/B01M8I7AI4)** > > Buy New Vizio Universal Remote Control for All VIZIO BRAND TV, Smart TV - 1 Year Warranty: Remote Controls - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases Why should I need to fork up 13 bucks for a proper remote from a third party? you might say. Because you bought a cheap ass budget brand and can afford to pay extra to get a remote with not only a “menu” button, but also designated buttons for Amazon and Netflix. Maybe this will be a bummer once Disney+ goes live, but my guess is you’ll be able to get a new universal remote for about the same money by then. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/69 "2019-06-26T12:07:33Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I think it’s an E60-E3. Should it be concidered a TV if it doesn’t even have a tuner? That’s a monitor, no matter what they call it. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/70 "2019-06-26T13:04:07Z")
In fact it legally can’t be called a TV if it doesn’t have a tuner which is why that model is a ‘Home Theater Display’. What a crock. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/71 "2019-06-26T14:35:53Z")
> [@Charlie\_Tan](#): > > Why should I need to fork up 13 bucks for a proper remote from a third party? you might say. > > Because you bought a cheap ass budget brand… The one I bought was under $8. Personally, I’ve always liked Sonys. Mrs. L.A. decided to get a new TV and picked the Vizio. I wouldn’t have bought it myself, but once she makes up her mind it’s dangerous to try to change it. It’s actually been very good, except for the recent colour issue and requiring two or three tries to turn it on. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/72 "2019-06-26T14:39:58Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Should it be concidered a TV if it doesn’t even have a tuner? That’s a monitor, no matter what they call it. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > In fact it legally can’t be called a TV if it doesn’t have a tuner which is why that model is a ‘Home Theater Display’. What a crock. It’s weird, because for many decades, a tuner was absolutely necessary but now, between cable/satellite and streaming services some (many?) people never use the tuner. Edited to add, I’d willingly give up the tuner if my set came with more than just four HDMI inputs. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/73 "2019-06-26T14:42:19Z")
Needing to download an app for every facet of daily life is beyond annoying. I have a smartphone, but it is seven years old. I refuse to upgrade as long as this phone still does what I need it to do (phone calls, texts, email, photos, Google Maps, and the occasional quick argument-settling Google search). But it has an 8GB memory. A large portion of that is taken up by the OS. I have less than 10 apps downloaded and the phone memory is nearly completely full. I absolutely, categorically REFUSE to download another app to go about my daily life, and it seems that I am daily exhorted to do so. My coffee pot has an app. My thermostat. My pressure cooker. The grocery store. The other grocery store. Amazon (I actually use that one), fifteen different websites (just let me use the website I am already on! Why an app? I’m already here on your website!), the kids’ schools, every restaurant I visit,etc, etc ad infinitum. Are there people who really have the storage capacity to download all of these apps? To say nothing of the privacy concerns, as mentioned upthread… ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/74 "2019-06-26T15:36:18Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > At this point, I put “adults who don’t carry a smartphone at all times” in pretty much the same category as the Amish. I am not any sort of religious fanatic but if I owned a smartphone (I don’t) I would NOT carry it at all times. I’m glued to my laptop for hours each day and regard my laptop-less outings (to coffee shops, or whatever) as a breath of fresh air. Sometimes I take a book with me, which I read not in a Kindle format but … (wait for it) … paper and print! :eek: (This may seem strange given I was once a bona fide professional computer nerd. But back in the day my favorite computers were broken machines! A top-notch field engineer and I used to play a game: remove a wire (one of many thousands of wires) from the inside of a million-dollar mainframe and see how long it took the other guy to run diagnostics and identify the missing wire!) ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/75 "2019-06-26T16:20:09Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > My coffee pot has an app. My thermostat. My pressure cooker. The grocery store. The other grocery store. Amazon (I actually use that one), fifteen different websites (just let me use the website I am already on! Save yourself some hassle and get either a burner phone as I mentioned upthread or tablet to use for dumb household stuff. You can make up a new Google account exclusive to that device and maintain some measure of privacy. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/76 "2019-06-26T16:22:36Z")
Why does a coffee pot need an app, anyway? 😕 You load it up, and press the Start (or Delay) button. What, you’re going to wake up ten minutes early to turn on your coffee pot from bed? Let the pot do it itself. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/77 "2019-06-26T17:45:54Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > At this point, I put “adults who don’t carry a smartphone at all times” in pretty much the same category as the Amish. I know what you mean, and don’t think that this sounds arrogant, condescending and incredibly pompous at all. I for one, feel that any Americans who haven’t been to at least 8 different foreign countries so far in 2019 are simply all modern day Flat-Earthers. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/78 "2019-06-26T18:13:28Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > It’s weird, because for many decades, a tuner was absolutely necessary but now, between cable/satellite and streaming services some (many?) people never use the tuner. Ironically enough, the last two cheap 19 inch computer monitors I’ve had have tossed in an NTSC/ATSC/[QAM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAM_(television)) tuner “for free.” ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/79 "2019-06-26T18:13:57Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Why does a coffee pot need an app, anyway? 😕 You load it up, and press the Start (or Delay) button. What, you’re going to wake up ten minutes early to turn on your coffee pot from bed? Let the pot do it itself. I completely agree! But I needed to download the app to set the time on the clock. I promptly deleted it right after. It was ridiculous. Pretty soon we’ll need an app to control all of the various apps we’ve been forced to download. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974/80 "2019-06-26T18:23:20Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Are there people who really have the storage capacity to download all of these apps? Absolutely. For probably the same price that you paid for your 8 GB phone years ago you can now get a phone with 32 GB, 64 GB, maybe even 128 GB. (And of course for more money you can get more memory–256 GB, 512 GB, or 1024 GB.) Depending on how your phone is set up, you might be able to expand the memory on the phone that you have right now. If it supports “[Adaptable Memory](https://fossbytes.com/android-sd-card-internal-storage-adoptable-storage/)” you can upgrade your old phone to 40 GB of virtual internal memory for [five bucks](https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-microSDHC-SDC4-32GB/dp/B0046XAROG). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-company-not-everyone-is-a-millennial/835974.md?page=5)