# Hey, "Crazy Eyes" Michelle, now are you starting to get it? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261 "2011-08-27T02:58:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261/81 "2011-08-30T06:55:49Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So as we can see, the liberal myth that Republicans are sexist and refuse to elect women to high office is just that…a myth. What liberal myth that Republicans refuse to elect women to high office? What we’ve been saying is that the Democrats have been better for women than the Republicans have. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The success of women and minorities in the Republican party is proving to be a very difficult pill for you guys to swallow, isn’t it? And yet you still keep refusing to compare them to the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261/82 "2011-08-30T08:36:27Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > SA’s list mainly only proves that George W. Bush probably isn’t racist/sexist. > > Hard to extrapolate from that to the GOP as a whole. Yeah, whatever their flaws, the Bushes have been more racially integrationist than the nativists in the GOP base. Apparently both W & Karl Rove wanted a guest worker program to legalize migrant workers, but couldn’t get it considered. As for the rest, the Black Caucus is still basically Democratic, with a few serious progressives. Then again, show me a black politician that can get elected to high office by a white constituency outside of Illinois; of either major party. Oh, wait, there was Dinkins. OK, so in NYC it’s possible. ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261/83 "2011-08-30T21:07:42Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > True, we should take a moment to acknowledge the many, many Republican leaders who bravely forged ahead on civil rights. Their names escape me for the moment, but, no doubt, you have them at your fingertips. This makes you look silly. The Democratic party in the south was very racist. The Republicans were the party of Lincoln after all, and much hated by Southerners because of Reconstruction. It’s not a Democrat vs Republican thing, it’s liberal vs conservatives. The latter moved to the Republican party as a result of Nixon’s Southern Strategy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261/84 "2011-08-30T21:18:40Z")
Well, if you want to approach it from that perspective, the American party that was first and most willing to put thier asses on the line for civil rights were the American Communists. The radicals lead, the progressives follow, the liberals sorta kinda walk along, as soon as its safe, and the rest of us get dragged kicking and screaming. And so it went. And so it goes. PS I dont much mind looking silly. I’ll get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261/85 "2011-08-31T00:24:02Z")
I was at my mom’s family reunion near Whitehall, PA last week. Some of the aunts and uncles talked politics with me. NONE of them were interested in Bachmann. Being a woman never came up. Most of my relatives are protestant. Some quite devout. They did not like her take on religion, saying that she gives the impression that only “her” religion is the right one. Some were even mad at her for constantly mentioning god and prayer and the like. Either way, although some mentioned her inability to pass any legislation in Congress, most felt that she was preaching to people, which she should not be doing (as the relatives said). Not because she is a woman, but because she is a POLITICIAN. They also wished she would go to high school and relearn history. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261/86 "2011-08-31T02:56:46Z")
> [@sh1bu1](#): > > This makes you look silly. The Democratic party in the south was very racist. The Republicans were the party of Lincoln after all, and much hated by Southerners because of Reconstruction. It’s not a Democrat vs Republican thing, it’s liberal vs conservatives. The latter moved to the Republican party as a result of Nixon’s Southern Strategy. That makes you look silly. Yes, back in the day the Southern Democrats were oftentimes racist. After the Civil Rights Act passed those racists bolted to the Republican Party so they could still be racist and get elected or reelected. What does that say about party racism? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261/87 "2011-08-31T03:04:28Z")
It says that the “left/right” dynamic can reverse itself between parties, and that there really is no ideological through-line for them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-crazy-eyes-michelle-now-are-you-starting-to-get-it/594261.md?page=4)