# Hey Democrats, Whine here! Tell us how smart you all are and how dumb we all are! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 8, 2000, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262 "2000-11-08T07:44:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/1 "2000-11-08T07:44:53Z")
But while you’re at it, please try to explain the two blatant attempts at election fraud this evening: - The major (read:liberal) media declaring Florida to Gore at a ridiculously early time and ending up very wrong; making it very reasonable to question whether it was done in an attempt to sway the still-open polls in the West. Bush was consistently ahead in Florida all evening long, from about 10 percent of the vote tally to 100 percent. - The dispicable attempt by a federal judge in St. Louis, Mo., to tilt the advantage to Gore and the late Mel Carnahan by allowing voters in very liberal districts to vote for hours after the polls should have closed. This didn’t occur anywhere other than Democratic strongholds, and surprise-surprise, the judge once was on House Democratic Leader Dick Gephardt’s staff. The lines were too long, and you didn’t get to vote? Get there earlier next time. The bastard should be thrown off the bench. Bush/Cheney - 2000 and beyond! Control of all three houses! Woo-hoo! ---
**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/2 "2000-11-08T07:47:50Z")
Milo, it saddens me that I will no longer be able to flirt with you. I had no idea. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Zilch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Zilch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zilch)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/3 "2000-11-08T07:48:25Z")
The economy is going to come to a screeching halt. Mark my words. And no, I’m not going to whine. – Zilch. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/4 "2000-11-08T07:49:23Z")
Aw, c’mon EB; it will make you feel dirty in a really _good_ way. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/5 "2000-11-08T07:51:18Z")
Zilch - Let’s just see what the stock market does tomorrow, shall we? After months of stagnation, my mutual funds are actually going to start doing something again. And my taxes are going down! Yeah, bay-bay, yeah! ---
**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/6 "2000-11-08T07:52:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Milossarian \* > \*\*Aw, c’mon EB; it will make you feel dirty in a really _good_ way. > > 😃 \*\* Believe me, if I had the choice of being intimate with someone who honestly believes that Bush was the best candidate for President and douching with a dirty, broken pop bottle, I’m going to have to have a Coke and a smile. I’ll miss you, though! ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/7 "2000-11-08T07:53:33Z")
Allow me to be the first to congratulate you on your candidate’s victory. In no way can I admit that the better man has won. I am extremely fearful for our country’s future. Only time will reveal what lies in wait for us. ---
**Author:** ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/8 "2000-11-08T07:55:48Z")
You’ll see how ‘smart’ you are, soon enough. The world is a dirtier, more dangerous, and sadder place if this result stands. There is little good in giving such vast power to the corporations who bought this election. These corporations do not exist to enhance mankind – they are interested in making money the easiest way possible. That means exploiting the masses, cheating the poor, and pillaging as many natural resources as possible. I’m glad I’m not a woman, or gay, or poor, or a minority, or young, or old. They are the real losers tonight. Perhaps the biggest losers are the poor fools who thought a vote for Bush was going to help them personally. They will soon find whose pocket GWB is in. Good luck, everyone – we’ll need it. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/9 "2000-11-08T08:05:39Z")
> [@](#): > > The world is a dirtier, more dangerous, and sadder place if this result stands. Yeah! This is the kind of stuff I was looking for! Bring it!! Look on the bright side, though. At least the world will be a cleaner, less dangerous, and happier place in New York, where Hillary won. > [@](#): > > That means exploiting the masses, cheating the poor, and pillaging as many natural resources as possible. > > I’m glad I’m not a woman, or gay, or poor, or a minority, or young, or old. They are the real losers tonight. You’re right. I’ll be surprised if a woman, gay, minority, child or old person lives to February. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/10 "2000-11-08T08:10:19Z")
Milo- Take this as you will. In regards to Bush being president, I personally am deeply upset that the leader of the US thinks me a second class citizen because of my sexual orientation. I’m going to go wallow in bitterness. ---
**Author:** ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/11 "2000-11-08T08:17:00Z")
> [@](#): > > You’re right. I’ll be surprised if a woman, gay, minority, child or old person lives to February. It will take time for this tragedy to kill women, gays, minorities, children, and seniors. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Don’t try to dismiss the danger. Women will die from back-room abortions. Gays will lose civil rights, and lead much more dangerous lives. Some will be beaten, and some will die. Minorities will lose more youth – many unjustly killed by an uncaring, pro-death penalty government. Children will have less access to healthcare, and those with asthma will be harmed by the air pollution. Some will die. Seniors will lose much of the security of Social Security. They will have harder lives, and will die earlier. If you find all this amusing, perhaps you should check your DNA to be sure you’re really human. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/12 "2000-11-08T08:20:34Z")
Hey Milo, on another thread I was told, in effect, I could take off my hood now. I think the implication was that Bush was a racist, and by extension, I must be too. The exact words were “It must be nice not having to pretend anymore.” And this was in a thread that had absolutley nothing to do with racial issues! It’s amazing how quick the race-baiting begins, sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![blastfurnace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@blastfurnace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blastfurnace)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/13 "2000-11-08T08:20:47Z")
OK. We are all smart and you are all dumb. Boy, THAT solved a lot of problems. Thanks for the advice **Milossarian**. love ya, blast ---
**Author:** ![Palmyra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Palmyra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palmyra)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/14 "2000-11-08T08:21:12Z")
Milossarian, if you wanted a bitch-fest, why didn’t you start this thread in the Pit? MPSIMS is not the place for political bickering. That’s what GD and the Pit are for [or were there too many threads there already for your’s to make a difference?]. The republicans are not for Gay rights, the see gay people as second class immoral citizens. Traditionally, they are for white men only, not even white women, so it a sexist and racist bent in the party. They want prayer in school, by law. This violates the separation of church and state. They also want those prayers to be protestant christian… what about the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Wiccans, Taoists, Native Americans, Catholics, Hare Khrishas, Scientologists, Mormans, and Eastern Orthodox’? Their prayers are not what the republicans mean by “school prayer.” ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/15 "2000-11-08T08:21:59Z")
andygirl: A quote or a reference, please, that shows why your president-elect thinks you are a second-class citizen? Danalan: I don’t find the cont **ent** of your words amusing; just the cont **ext**. And since when did Dems ever think Republicans were human beings, anyway? 😉 Anyone want to address the attempts at election fraud as referenced in my OP? Kiss your victory goodbye when the feds come to investigate, Widow Carnahan. ---
**Author:** ![Palmyra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Palmyra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palmyra)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/16 "2000-11-08T08:30:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Milossarian \* > \*\*andygirl: A quote or a reference, please, that shows why your president-elect thinks you are a second-class citizen? > \*\* um… i can answer that… damn near every republican has voted against any sort of equal rights act/bill that included rights for this country’s homosexual citizens. BTW, he’s not MY prez-elect, he is THE prez-elect. i claim no responsibility for his election. > [@](#): > > \*\* > And since when did Dems ever think Republicans were human beings, anyway? 😉 > \*\* since when have the republicans thought that democrats were human? > [@](#): > > \*\* > Anyone want to address the attempts at election fraud as referenced in my OP? Kiss your victory goodbye when the feds come to investigate, Widow Carnahan. \*\* are you implying that ALL democrats approve of the acts alleged in your OP? Cite a reference for your allegations, since you insist that **andygirl** do so for her claim. the generalize about an entire group of people based on the actions of the few is irresponsible. ---
**Author:** ![schief2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@schief2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schief2)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/17 "2000-11-08T08:36:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Milossarian \* > \*\*Anyone want to address the attempts at election fraud as referenced in my OP? Kiss your victory goodbye when the feds come to investigate, Widow Carnahan. \*\* As a Missouri resident (AND Carnahan voter, thank you very much), I’ll step up to the plate with a quote from a St. Louis Post-Dispatch [article](http://www.postnet.com/postnet/stories.nsf/Home/86256794004608DB8625699100019AD6?OpenDocument&Headline=Appeals%20court%20closes%20city%20polling%20places) about this: > [@](#): > > Douglas Dowd, attorney for the Democrats, said in the circuit court hearing that there were “voting irregularities” in north St. Louis and south St. Louis due to delays. > > Dowd also alleged that many people placed on an inactive voter list this year had difficulty getting polling place workers to follow the Election Board’s rules and to call the board headquarters to check on the would-be voters’ status. > […] > Myrna Shelton was in line with her daughter, Shuron Shelton, 21. She said her daughter had thought she had registered when she went to a state drivers license office but for some reason didn’t turn up on the rolls. > > “We’ve been here since 1 o’clock,” Myrna Shelton said at about 6 p.m. When you’ve got literally hundreds of apparently registered voters being turned away from a few specific polling places, and shuffled all over the city to prove their registrations, not to mention problems I’ve seen reported elsewhere with ballot shortages at these same precincts, seems like a good case for a bit of emergency court action. At least, a lot better case than one would have for a lot of hollow bluster about Democratic skullduggery… ---
**Author:** ![Palmyra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Palmyra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palmyra)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/18 "2000-11-08T08:37:06Z")
for the record: i voted against bush and gore… hate them both with a passion, but gore is less evil. ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/19 "2000-11-08T08:54:04Z")
Hey **Milo** , it ain’t over yet. I’ll retract my congratulations until you’ve earned them. Please check [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=45605) thread. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262/20 "2000-11-08T08:57:49Z")
Palmyra - Many Republicans don’t support equal rights acts/bills because they think you, as an American (if you are one), already have equal protection under the law. Any act or bill that singled you out would be A) redundant; or B) make it so others were treated differently. So, how _don’t_ you have equal treatment under the law? If a crime is committed against you, I don’t recall the police asking your sexual orientation. From [FoxNews.com](http://FoxNews.com): > [@](#): > > In St. Louis, long lines of voters led a state judge, at Democrats’ request, to order the city to keep its polls open until 10 p.m., three extra hours. A shortage of booths, ballots, judges and equipment had vexed the city throughout the day. > > But the Board of Election Commissioners appealed swiftly, and a three-judge panel of the Missouri Court of Appeals ordered the polls closed immediately – after they had been open nearly an extra hour. > > The petition was filed by Congressional candidate William Lacy Clay, the Missouri Democratic Committee and the Gore-Lieberman campaign. I’m hearing now that Gore has retracted his concession to Bush, and Florida is about as close to even as can be. This is amazing! Historic! If all of the networks were wrong **twice** … I’m sure there will be re-counts coming. Shit. We’ve already uncorked the champagne. It’s going to go flat. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-democrats-whine-here-tell-us-how-smart-you-all-are-and-how-dumb-we-all-are/40262.md?page=2)