# Hey, did ya hear Robert Palmer . . . oh, never mind . . .

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 26, 2003, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972 "2003-09-26T14:06:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/21 "2003-09-26T18:50:15Z")

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Revtim wrote:

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> I assumed there was some kinda prize for being first. Cuauhtemoc, what did you win for Plimpton?

a tranny toaster?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/22 "2003-09-26T19:32:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> But fer chrissakes, people, check to see if anyone else has posted it first! We are now up to, I think, six “Robert Palmer died!” threads, which results in everyone talking _past_ each other, not _to_ each other.

I checked MPSIMS, and no one else had posted about RP’s death yet. Another poster and I simu-OPed there. (He checked too.)

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> Oh, and show-biz deaths go in Cafe Society, _not_ MPSIMS.

First I’d heard of this rule. Cite?

The forum description for CS is:

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> Our salon for art, drama, literature, movies, music – all the artistic disciplines – if it’s about art or entertainment, it goes here.

And IMHO, that doesn’t apply. A celebrity’s death, regardless of the nature of the celebrity, isn’t art, entertainment, or any of the above. It’s just mundane, pointless news. That someone inevitably shares.

I don’t often OP about celebrity deaths. But when I do, I don’t want to have to make a call on which forum my thread should go into, based on the nature of the person’s celebrity - especially when it can sometimes be a challenge to get things to load. (When Hugh Hefner dies, where does the thread go, for instance?)

Absent a moderator ruling to the contrary, I’m gonna stick to MPSIMS if I should post about the deaths of any celebrities in the future.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/23 "2003-09-26T19:43:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\*[Eve has to lie down from the mental image this gives her . . .] \*\*

Yeah, suuuuuuuure…

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/24 "2003-09-26T19:58:13Z")

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. . . But why would you post a discussion about an actor, singer or artist in MPSIMS, when Cafe Society is specifically set aside for discussions on art and artists?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/25 "2003-09-26T20:11:02Z")

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Robert Palmer is dead threads are now available in Cafe Society, MPSIMS and the Pit. Will everyone at his funeral wear identical black dresses?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/26 "2003-09-26T20:27:25Z")

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Um, isn’t Arnold Palmer already dead?

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/27 "2003-09-26T20:52:41Z")

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Who’s Robert Palmer?

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/28 "2003-09-26T21:09:30Z")

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Hey, as one of the relative newbies who made this fatal faux pas (and apologized profusely), I’d like to reiterate that I _did_ try to check the board, by looking manually and searching. However, the hamsters didn’t want to cooperate and it never, ever crossed my mind that it would be posed anywhere other than CS. Not to mention, I made myself infinitely look worse by putting the damn thing out there twice. Sigh.

So, once more, I humbly ask forgiveness of the Dopers denizens for making such an unbelievable breach of netiquette. Sometimes we don’t mean to purposely do such dunder-headed things, it just seems to happen when we’re doing our best to avoid looking like a colossal idiot.

I think I’ll go back into lurker mode for a while now and hope that the next time I contribute to a thread, no one will point and go “There’s that moron who doesn’t know how to be a member of a message board with all her Robert Palmer nonsense! Novice, humph.” 😛

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/29 "2003-09-26T22:03:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stephi \*  
> \*\*When I first heard, I thought it was **Arnold Palmer** who had died. You know, the 70-something golf pro? So I didn’t even have the right guy for the first half hour.
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> Anyone else do that too? \*\*

No exactly, but when golfer Payne Stewart died in a plance crash, I thought CNN had said Patrick Stewart, from Star Trek, and I got all bummed out. Then I realized it was some other guy, and I got really happy. Then I realized I was ecstatic over the death of some guy whom I sure was an all-around decent egg, and I felt guilty. Then I had to lie down.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/30 "2003-09-26T22:10:33Z")

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I wonder if he had a bad case of loving his doctor.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/31 "2003-09-26T22:11:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Um, isn’t Arnold Palmer already dead? \*\*

Afraid not. He’s still with us and looking pretty good. Still golfs, too. 74 years old, and he’s played a couple of tournament events (I’m sure he golfs more frequently; those are just the PGA tournaments). Designs courses, too.

Threads on a celebrity death can go in a few different places. If you want to bitch about the person who died, you shouldn’t post the tread in CS - put it in the Pit (“Robert Palmer dead: Why am I so happy?”).

If you want to discuss the person’s life work, put it in CS (“George Plimpton dead; Paper Lion fans mourn”).

And if you just want to let everyone know the person died (that is, you’re posting an obit of sorts), then put it in MPSIMS (“Gordon Jump dead”).

That’s my take. Seems reasonable to me. The problem is when you get mulitple threads in a particular forum about a person’s death. This is perfectly acceptable when the threads are posted simultaneously, although the first of the OPs to notice the redundancy probably should ask the moderators to close their thread.

To the OP, then, I’d say that the sentiment is right on, although it is not inherently true that someone goofed every time multiple threads are posted about a particular celebrity death.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/32 "2003-09-26T22:35:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
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> Anyway, what are you moaning about; you’ve cornered the market in sepia-tinted daft old trouts who no else has ever heard of but maybe once had a threesome with Lloyd George and Jesse James.  
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Call me mad, but I’d actually like to read that obituary.

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**Author:** ![mug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mug)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/33 "2003-09-26T23:57:18Z")

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Ha, I must be old. Whenever I hear of someone’s passing I come to SDMB assuming someone’s already opened a thread. I want to read what’s been written. I agree with the OP, six (or more) is nuts.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/34 "2003-09-27T00:10:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hopefool \*  
> \*\*I think I’ll go back into lurker mode for a while now and hope that the next time I contribute to a thread, no one will point and go “There’s that moron who doesn’t know how to be a member of a message board with all her Robert Palmer nonsense! Novice, humph.” 😛 \*\*

Oh, don’t do that, dear heart! Hamster trouble is always understood. I figure the first two or three simulposts are understandable _as_ simulposts . . . It’s just that by midday, people should know not to add additional duplicate threads (not to mention in the worng forum!). And people keep replying to almost-dead threads, leapfrogging them over active threads . . . A minor annoyance, but an annoyance nonetheless.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/35 "2003-09-27T00:16:22Z")

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Uvula Gladwynne is alive and well–it was Uvula _Gladstone_ who perished in that freak blimp accident.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/36 "2003-09-27T00:19:32Z")

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No, it was _Ovaltine_\* Gladstone who died in the blimp accident.

Uvula didn’t pay her Mob debts in time.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/37 "2003-09-27T00:20:43Z")

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Damnt, the coding weasels got me again! Now I’ll have to stand in the tea chest.

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**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/38 "2003-09-27T00:31:58Z")

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I just wonder if anyone has pre-made threads just ready to post the second someone famoous goes.

“Ronald Reagan 1911-20\_\_”"

[http://www.cnn.com/@^%#](http://www.cnn.com/@%5E%25#)

I know this was expected for some time, but it always gives me a lump in the throat to see an ex-president pass on. You always remember where you were and what you were doing when you get the news. I was at \_\_\_\_\_\_, doing \_\_\_\_\_\_, when it came on TV that he died. I still haven’t taken it all in.

I didn’t care too much for his politics, but he was great in _Santa Fe Trail_. Goodbye Dutch!

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/39 "2003-09-27T01:36:28Z")

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Forget Arnold Palmer: when I got to work I was told that Robert Plant had died. I must admit to being relieved when I heard it was “only” Robert Palmer.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-did-ya-hear-robert-palmer-oh-never-mind/203972/40 "2003-09-27T04:33:34Z")

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Forgotten, but not gone.

Its kind of like, we know Roy Orbison is dead, so who cares if Elvis is alive or not?

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