# Hey Diogenes, another thread where you can rant about Favre. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588 "2004-12-13T13:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/121 "2004-12-24T23:06:23Z")
I’d say I told you so, but I’m not that way. Fuck that, yeah I am! Who else but Favre to win that one? (Second year in a row we beat the Vikes in the Dome!) How’s that Dome curse working out for ya? WHOOOO-HOOOOOO!!! Yeah, baby! ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/122 "2004-12-24T23:08:19Z")
And I’m doing everything I can to keep from calling **Dio** on his cell to rub it in. Damn Christmas spirit is robbing me of a thoroughly enjoyable evening. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![usar\_jag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@usar\_jag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usar_jag)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/123 "2004-12-24T23:10:00Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > WHOOOO-HOOOOOO!!! > > Yeah, baby! Yep, my home town team certainly are proving themselves to be Brett Favre’s beeyotches. Thank God I’m not a Vikings fan, but Dolphan instead! Oh, wait :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/124 "2004-12-24T23:13:26Z")
Green Bay Packers!! The only champion the NFC North has ever seen!! ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/125 "2004-12-24T23:17:55Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > Green Bay Packers!! The only champion the NFC North has ever seen!! Yep. Yeah I know that our secondary couldn’t tackle an asthmatic octogenarian…and that Favre is up and down. But we most certainly are **not** the Vi-Queens, Choking Lions or Midgets of the Midway. I’ll enjoy this until we get thumped in the playoffs. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/126 "2004-12-25T00:07:14Z")
All this game showedwas that both defenses suck. Ours just sucked last. The Pack had some help from the stripes as well. How about that free time out before half time? ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/127 "2004-12-25T00:27:21Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > All this game showedwas that both defenses suck. Ours just sucked last. The Pack had some help from the stripes as well. How about that free time out before half time? How about knowing the rules? A player is entitled to ask for a measurement if the spot is close to the first down marker. It was (less than a foot or so by my eyeball), so the official granted the measurement. This was only explained about 5 times by the various announcers. They even pointed out that granting measurement requests was a “special point of emphasis” this year. Nothing like a sore loser…or someone who won’t admit that he was wrong… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/128 "2004-12-25T00:41:00Z")
The spot wasn’t that close. It was obvious they didn’t have the first down. It was just the usual Favre-friendly officiating. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/129 "2004-12-25T01:13:41Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > The spot wasn’t that close. It was obvious they didn’t have the first down. It was just the usual Favre-friendly officiating. You’re an idiot. I just fast forwarded it back on the TiVo. They were short by LESS than the length of a football (it appears to be about half the length) A football is less than a foot long ([cite](http://popularmechanics.com/science/sports/2001/10/bombs_away/index2.phtml)) IOW…the spot was 6 inches from the marker. That’s close enough for a measurement…which is what the announcers and officials thought. Enjoy your sour grapes. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/130 "2004-12-25T01:37:48Z")
Hey kids…here is a photo of the spot that DtC claimed “wasn’t that close” [spot](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/beagledave/spot.jpg) Rather pathetic of him, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/131 "2004-12-25T01:46:01Z")
It was short enough that everone in the Metrodome could eyeball that it was short. No one thought it was really a first down, not even Favre. The only reason he asked for the measurement was to stop the clock. It he’d been wearing purple he’d have never gotten a measurement. The officials in the NFL take care of the Packers like nobody’s business. Especially when they play the Vikings. Yes, I am bitter. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/132 "2004-12-25T02:45:48Z")
Go Pack!! Anyway, we’ll get our come-uppance in the first or second round of the playoffs. As soon as someone competent can sodomise the secondary. Dio, if the Diebolds, er, referees were so pro-Pack then how come they’re setting team records for amounts of penalties in a game/season? And how did you get home so quick after spending the afternoon with Duff? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/133 "2004-12-25T02:47:36Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > It was short enough that everone in the Metrodome could eyeball that it was short. No one thought it was really a first down, not even Favre. The only reason he asked for the measurement was to stop the clock. It he’d been wearing purple he’d have never gotten a measurement. The officials in the NFL take care of the Packers like nobody’s business. Especially when they play the Vikings. Yes, I am bitter. Clearly you are bitter. Last week, I forget exactly who (but I think it was during the Jets game) there was a measurement request honored on a ball that was well over a full yard short of the marker. The announcers joked that the official didn’t have long enough arms to actually signal the distance it was short. This griping about the measurement is just petty. Once you accept that the Vikings truly do suck on their own merits, you’ll feel much better. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/134 "2004-12-25T03:27:27Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] Go Pack!! Anyway, we’ll get our come-uppance in the first or second round of the playoffs. As soon as someone competent can sodomise the secondary. Dio, if the Diebolds, er, referees were so pro-Pack then how come they’re setting team records for amounts of penalties in a game/season?[/qiote] Plausible deniability. They get the calls that matter…like that phantom holding call on Matt birk during the Vikings last possession. > [@](#): > > And how did you get home so quick after spending the afternoon with Duff? I had to cancel my trip. My little girl got the flu and then gave it to me. I’ve needed to stay close to a commode for the last couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/135 "2004-12-25T03:59:52Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > All this game showedwas that both defenses suck. Ours just sucked last. The Pack had some help from the stripes as well. How about that free time out before half time? Screw that. Now you’re grasping at nonexistent straws. And looking weak doing so. Case in point. Anyone remember the 15 yard facemask on Driver near the sideline? The Head Linesman was looking directly into his face 3 feet away when it happened. It too the Back Judge, 10 feet away and behind the play to see what everyone else did. Man, I knew Queens fans whined after being slapped down by Favre, but this is just embarrassing to your cause. A toast to the only NFC North champions. EVER! MUWAHAHAHAHHAHA! ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/136 "2004-12-25T04:02:20Z")
> [@Uncommon Sense](#): > > And how did you get home so quick after spending the afternoon with Duff? The schedule dictated a meeting for next week, not today. But things happen in life, so there may have to just be a Cities DopeFest in the next month or two. I’ll wear my #4 jersey. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/137 "2004-12-25T04:31:05Z")
One more thought. Let us not forget this was a game played on Christmas Eve. What better way to see God’s greatness than to have the only winning team today be allowed to use His Initial as a team logo? It’s almost like a sign. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/138 "2004-12-25T04:58:55Z")
I was watching the game with an evil smirk knowing that Dio would be getting roasted again. Nothing personal Dio, you just make it so much fun for all the Packer fans. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/139 "2004-12-25T16:37:07Z")
[tuoe=“Diogenes the Cynic”]Plausible deniability. They get the calls that matter…like that phantom holding call on Matt birk during the Vikings last possession. [/quote] Ri-i-i-ight. Like the bad call on the touchback in the endzone? Or the non-call on the interference against Donald Driver. GREEN BAY PACKERS…2002, 2003, 2004 NFC NORTH CHAMPS!!! ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-diogenes-another-thread-where-you-can-rant-about-favre/279588/140 "2004-12-25T17:34:57Z")
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