# Hey everybody - Date rape is not "real" rape
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 21, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461 "2004-10-21T18:54:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/1 "2004-10-21T18:54:14Z")
At least according to Ann Coulter.
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> America has just gone to war against a regime for which rape – **not date rape** , or pseudo-rape, or virtual rape,\*\* but real rape\*\* – was part of the official policy, and they’re against regime-change.
Has Ms. Coulter hit a new low? I wonder how Ms. Coulter would feel if she or a family memeber or a friend was date raped? Would she still feel it was not “real” rape? I hope she never has to find out, but what a fucking psycho-asshole. I don’t understand how she could say something like this. And the sad thing is a lot of people in this country will read this and think “Right on Ann.” Is her new book a best seller yet? 😕
[http://anncoulter.org/](http://anncoulter.org/)
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### Author:  [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/2 "2004-10-21T19:00:33Z")
Well, you know, if she let him start and then said “no,” or if she had a beer, or if she invited him up to her room, then that’s her own fault for being a cock-blocking bitch.
:smack: :rolleyes: :wally
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### Author:  [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/3 "2004-10-21T19:03:05Z")
Every time I see Ann Coulter’s face, I want to slap the bitch like Ike Turner. Is that wrong of me?
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### Author:  [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/4 "2004-10-21T19:03:05Z")
We are, of course, talking about Ann Coulter – the person who singlehandedly moved trolling from the Internet to print media.
Therefore, nothing she says is (a) surprising, that it’s coming from her pen, or (b) believable.
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### Author:  [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/5 "2004-10-21T19:09:29Z")
Fuckin’ A.
My Psycho-Meter just broke.
Ava
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/6 "2004-10-21T19:23:22Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#):
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> At least according to Ann Coulter.
Her comment is hardly the main thesis of her paragraph.
I think there is a valid distinction to be made between date rape and stranger rape. However, I certainly agree that both are “real” rape.
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> Is her new book a best seller yet? 😕
Number six on the NYT best seller list, I think.
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### Author:  [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/7 "2004-10-21T19:31:08Z")
The fact that Coulter can still find an audience speaks volumes about how low American conservatives have sank.
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/8 "2004-10-21T19:33:42Z")
> [@Tentacle Monster](#):
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> Every time I see Ann Coulter’s face, I want to slap the bitch like Ike Turner. Is that wrong of me?
How’d you think to ask such an off the wall question? Isn’t the answer obvious?
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### Author:  [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/9 "2004-10-21T19:36:09Z")
> [@rjung](#):
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> The fact that Coulter can still find an audience speaks volumes about how low American conservatives have sank.
And to think in 1990 I honestly believed Rush appealed to the very lowest common denominator.
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### Author:  [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/10 "2004-10-21T19:37:25Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Her comment is hardly the main thesis of her paragraph. I think there is a valid distinction to be made between date rape and stranger rape. However, I certainly agree that both are “real” rape.
I’m fucking tired of agreeing with **Bricker** all day. Upon reading the article, I think the argument that people who use rape as a tool of government should be beaten about the head is asomewhat laudable position. The rest of the article is mildly entertaining, as usual. (Oily Jew, anyone?)
The distinction between date rape and stranger rape is the same as between familial kidnappings and stranger kidnappings. One is statistically insignificant and gets all the attention. The other is a pervasive societal ill. I don’t think Ann Coulter using a metaphor will tip the scales.
Am I allowed to giggle at “Coalition of the Fabulous?” Or will they take away my toaster?
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### Author:  [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/11 "2004-10-21T19:37:42Z")
> [@SimonX](#):
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> How’d you think to ask such an off the wall question? Isn’t the answer obvious?
Violence is not the answer. I’d rather see her named by her beloved President to a post befitting her abilities – Ambassador to Oman, for example.
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### Author:  [@Bongmaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bongmaster)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/12 "2004-10-21T19:37:54Z")
I don’t know much about dear Ann (most of it is from this site) but she sounds nasty. Interesting how a collection of relatively bright people all seem to agree she is nuts…
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### Author:  [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/13 "2004-10-21T19:54:10Z")
Ann Coulter was on the O’Reilly Factor last week sometime. I watched it. I don’t know why. I never watch the O’Reilly Factor. Honest.
Anyway, Ann expressed annoyance when her views or herself weren’t being talked about. (I really wish I could find a transcript because…) her comments were pretty much saying that she loves to troll and doesn’t like it when her trolling goes unnoticed.
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### Author:  [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/14 "2004-10-21T19:54:46Z")
Coulter shoved her foot in her mouth on this one, eh?
Speculation: Maybe she was referring to instances of two drunken people hooking up and then later when they sober up the woman realizes this was a mistake and feels she was raped rather than the actual use-of-force type of date rape, or the drugging someone without their knowledge type.
Now, if she _was_ referring to the former kind, she’s a goddamn idiot to have said ‘date rape’. If she was referring to the latter and calling it a fraud, she needs to be mule-kicked.
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### Author:  [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/15 "2004-10-21T20:49:54Z")
Read most of her stuff, and now whenever I see ‘Ann Coulter’ preceding anything, I just stop reading right then and there…
This doesn’t look like anything out of the ordinary for her.
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### Author:  [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/16 "2004-10-21T21:27:47Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Her comment is hardly the main thesis of her paragraph.
So?
She still implies that date rape is not real rape. Is a wrong statement somehow less wrong if it’s parenthetical? Does that make an offensive statement less offensive?
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/17 "2004-10-21T21:34:38Z")
> [@catsix](#):
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> she needs to be mule-kicked.
But mules are out this year!
(Heh.)
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### Author:  [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/18 "2004-10-21T21:53:13Z")
> [@Orbifold](#):
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> So?
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> She still implies that date rape is not real rape. Is a wrong statement somehow less wrong if it’s parenthetical? Does that make an offensive statement less offensive?
I’m sure a ‘real’ rape victim would tell her there’s no difference.
This ‘real’ rape victim doesn’t see much of a difference between being forced by someone you know or forced by someone you don’t know. Either way, you’re still being forced.
Ava
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/19 "2004-10-21T21:55:37Z")
> [@Orbifold](#):
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> So?
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> She still implies that date rape is not real rape. Is a wrong statement somehow less wrong if it’s parenthetical? Does that make an offensive statement less offensive?
Yes, actually, it does.
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### Author:  [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2004, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-everybody-date-rape-is-not-real-rape/270461/20 "2004-10-21T21:59:47Z")
> [@Tentacle Monster](#):
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> Every time I see Ann Coulter’s face, I want to slap the bitch like Ike Turner. Is that wrong of me?
Funny you should mention that, at my local Books-A-Million they’ve slapped the normal “30% off!” sticker on her book, except it’s right on her face. And it’s not just a fluke. Most other books have the sticker in a standard place, but on the book it’s out of place, and every single book has it.
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