# Hey, good for Miley Cyrus! The fundies are mad at her. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 1, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954 "2009-05-01T10:06:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/1 "2009-05-01T10:06:08Z")
[Religious right now trying to punish pro-gay speech](http://www.americablog.com/2009/04/religious-right-now-trying-to-punish.html) > [@](#): > > On the heels of the hate crimes vote in the House - a vote where the religious right claimed that laws against murder would somehow stop them from verbally criticizing gays - the religious right has just launched a campaign against Hannah Montana star Miley Cyrus simply for saying that Jesus loves everyone, including gay people. > … > > First here is what Miley Cyrus said that is so offensive: > > > [@](#): > > > > \*\* “Everyone deserves to love and be loved and most importantly smile.” > > "Jesus loves you and your partner and wants you to know how much he cares! That’s like a daddy not loving his lil boy cuz he’s gay and that is wrong and very sad! > > “Like I said everyone deserves to be happy.” > > “God’s greatest commandment is to love. And judging is not loving.” > > “I am a Christian and I love you - gay or not - because you are no different than anyone else! We are all God’s children.”\*\* > > Wow, pretty nasty stuff. Love. God’s commandments. We are all God’s children. > … > > And here is how the bigots at the American Family Association reacted: > > > [@](#): > > > > - Such statements will send the wrong message to our children who are influenced by this teenage megastar. Parents need to realize that Cyrus is not the positive role model she was once thought to be… Clearly she is confused and does not understand the Bible.\* I’m still trying to find original links, which unfortunately weren’t included in the article. If indeed Miley said what was quoted, I am in awe of her! What an amazingly wonderful thing to say! Like her or not, she’s HUGELY popular and yes, she is a big influence on many children, and will be for at least a few more years, so her saying that is…words fail me…important. More than important. Sure she’ll lose some fans, those who are unduly influenced by their own parents’ bigotry, but most won’t care, and she’ll gain some fans. Damn, now I have a hankering to see the Hannah Montana movie just to support her! I hope the loudmouths don’t get her to back down, and I hope Billy Ray comes to her aid verbally if the fundies really get nasty. He has his own fanbase who need to hear what his daughter said (if she said it). ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/2 "2009-05-01T10:12:33Z")
These are indeed gen-u-ine Miley Cyrus quotes, from her Twitter account. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/3 "2009-05-01T10:14:01Z")
Cool! Thanks for the confirmation. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/4 "2009-05-01T13:28:19Z")
It’s more evidence that hating gays will stop being even marginally acceptable when this current youth generation ages into dominance. The Old Guard is fighting a losing battle against inevitability, and the more they get crowded into their corner, the louder and shriller they’ll scream. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/5 "2009-05-01T13:36:09Z")
I talk to my boss (a lesbian) about this stuff sometimes, jayjay. I know she wants all of her rights NOW and I agree with her they should be given now, but it’s not always that easy to pass things. We need the current generation of lawmakers to move on, and then the next generation will hardly even know what the big deal was. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/6 "2009-05-01T13:40:42Z")
Suddenly have this peculiar, unfamilar urge to buy a Miley Cyrus CD. Can’t understand why. Perhaps will instead go to her web site and tell her I wouldn’t recognize one of her songs if I heard it 50 times but she just scored some major points with me. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/7 "2009-05-01T13:52:09Z")
_Clearly she is confused and does not understand the Bible_ Bwahahahaha! Because as everyone knows the bible is NOT a collection of writings and stories open to interpretation by the reader. It is a book of undisputable facts on right and wrong that only they have interpreted the right way! ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/8 "2009-05-01T13:54:33Z")
Sigmagirl, good idea. Yeah, the loudmouths are indeed…loud, so she needs to know that a lot of people are very grateful for her speaking out. What compassion, common sense\* and bravery! Who would have thought? She went from being a non-entity who had no place in my sphere to being someone I deeply admire. And she’s what, 16? I have no idea, that’s how non-entity she is. Damn, I just can’t get over it. This may sound melodramatic, but I’ll bet she saves some lives. Some gay/lesbian kid somewhere, struggling, depressed, hearing bigoted adults telling them they’re worthless sinners, and here’s this megastar saying, no, God loves you too. And quite to my surprise, I’m thinking of Billy Ray Cyrus in a different light too (not that I want to listen to his music, or hers). They must have raised her with tolerance and compassion. > [@mobo85](#): > > These are indeed gen-u-ine Miley Cyrus quotes, from her Twitter account. I wonder if this will go down as one of the most important socially significant things to ever happen via Twitter. Twitter is a non-entity to me too, but I just went from thinking of it as a silly, useless bit of fluff, to being an important mouthpiece (in this case anyway). \*I’m an atheist but I’ve always said that the world would be a much better place if people who say they love Christ would actually act in a way that Christ would like, and Miley gets it. ---
**Author:** ![Stauderhorse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Stauderhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stauderhorse)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/9 "2009-05-01T14:17:43Z")
Wow. I assumed such a squeaky-clean (well, except for the naked pictures) Disney-fied type like her wouldn’t be caught dead speaking out like that. Good for her. Y’all are right in that this will make a difference in the lives of a lot of young people. Step by step, we are moving forward. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/10 "2009-05-01T14:29:59Z")
For what it’s worth, the Hannah Montanna movie soundtrack isn’t bad. I picked it up because I like that song “The Climb” and because there’s a Taylor Swift song on it. Fun and pop-y. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/11 "2009-05-01T14:44:41Z")
I’ve read Miley’s autobiography and an interview or two with her- she is indeed a smart cookie, wise beyond her years. After reading her autobiography, I found a new respect for her about how much she’s been able to overcome and how much she’s learned (and I’ll admit her music is catchy too). The fact that she- who is part of a well-known openly Christian family whose father is on the board of the extremely right-wing Parents Television Council- can Twitter regarding the Perez Hilton/Miss California controversy directly TO Perez Hilton and make an intelligent comment about tolerating others (and, as she points out, the fundamentalist intolerance is so outspoken that it’s often stereotyped to all Christians) shows her intelligence, courtesy, and above all, friendliness. Miley would never hate anyone (except maybe Radiohead)- we should all take a lesson from her. And even if you do think homosexuality is a sin, you should at least, as the saying goes, love the sinner and hate the sin- after all, wasn’t there some guy who told us to love our enemies? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/12 "2009-05-01T14:54:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Such statements will send the wrong message to our children who are influenced by this teenage megastar. Parents need to realize that Cyrus is not the positive role model she was once thought to be… Clearly she is confused and does not understand the Bible. Clearly she’s unfamiliar with Jesus’ parable about the necessity of throwing stones at sinners. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/13 "2009-05-01T15:35:31Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > **Clearly she is confused and does not understand the Bible** > > Bwahahahaha! > Because as everyone knows the bible is NOT a collection of writings and stories open to interpretation by the reader. It is a book of undisputable facts on right and wrong… …dictated by the Lord Almighty himself! ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/14 "2009-05-01T16:08:13Z")
nothing to add except GO MILEY ---
**Author:** ![FallenAngel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@FallenAngel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FallenAngel)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/15 "2009-05-01T16:33:51Z")
I’m neither a christian nor a particular fan of Ghandi, but I’m pretty sure the ones giving Miley flak for actually expressing agreements with the statements of Jesus are the same one Ghandi was referring to when he said, “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/16 "2009-05-01T16:43:46Z")
Gandhi. _Gandhi_, dammit! I have resolved today to stop laughing at my fiancee for watching _Hanna Montana_. Maybe I’ll even start watching it with her. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/17 "2009-05-01T17:13:55Z")
Ghandi is the name of a group recording on Buddah Records. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/18 "2009-05-01T17:25:34Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It’s more evidence that hating gays will stop being even marginally acceptable when this current youth generation ages into dominance. The Old Guard is fighting a losing battle against inevitability, and the more they get crowded into their corner, the louder and shriller they’ll scream. But… but… teenagers hate teh ghey too! And how dare you even suggest that teenagers might be more accepting than some pigheaded adults think they are! Maybe now, Miley Cyrus of all people, will kill the notion that being a gay teenager in 2009 is exactly the same as being a gay teenager in the 70s or 80s or even the 90s. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/19 "2009-05-01T17:36:12Z")
Eh, I’ll chime in and say that what she said isn’t all that big a deal. It’s a good thing, certainly, but I don’t think she realized she was taking a controversial stand when she said “God loves everyone”. The real test comes now, now that a prominent group has spoken out against her. If, having taken criticism for these statements, she sticks to them, _then_ I’ll have a heck of a lot of respect for her. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954/20 "2009-05-01T17:37:33Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Gandhi. _Gandhi_, dammit! > > I have resolved today to stop laughing at my fiancee for watching _Hanna Montana_. Maybe I’ll even start watching it with her. Hannah. _Hannah_, dammit! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-good-for-miley-cyrus-the-fundies-are-mad-at-her/494954.md?page=2)