# Hey, guy passing out fetus dolls at a Halloween event, come on down to the pit. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 8, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279 "2011-11-08T15:12:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/21 "2011-11-08T17:07:25Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > In other news, **OMG Yadda Yadda** I’m happy to report that your trolling form is improving fast. On the other hand you’re getting more obvious than ever. But don’t despair and do keep practicing, I’m sure at this rate it won’t be too long until you get your very own BANNED guest title. 1.) Who’s trolling? I’m always (okay, usually) 100% serious. But since you want some kind of “serious” response… It’s a fetus doll. Not a bloody, dismembered doll, mind you. Not a doll accompanied by any pro-life literature. Just a doll. A doll. A _doll_. So what’s the big deal? Well, obviously, because it’s a fetus and, you know, fetuses are so offensive. Or something like that. Allegedly. 2.) Could you guys and gals seriously put more thought into your insults? I mean, really. I’ve heard better insults from a 4th grader. > [@Kolga](#): > > What’s the word to describe someone who consistently posts content-free replies? > > I can think of at least one. You shouldn’t call yourself out like that. I wasn’t going to call you out ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/22 "2011-11-08T17:14:15Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > 2.) Could you guys and gals seriously put more thought into your insults? I mean, really. I’ve heard better insults from a 4th grader. The one that sits behind your desk in third period Social Studies? Yeah, that guy _is_ pretty witty. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/23 "2011-11-08T17:16:22Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > What’s the word to describe an irrational fear of fetuses? Since I’m guessing you’d agree that a fetus is a person, what’s a word for an adult who gives realistic figurines of naked people to young children? ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/24 "2011-11-08T17:16:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The one that sits behind your desk in third period Social Studies? Yeah, that guy _is_ pretty witty. Comparatively speaking, he’s a regular Oscar Wilde. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/25 "2011-11-08T17:18:21Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Well, I hope they at least took the bones out of it. If you took the bones out, it wouldn’t be crunchy then, would it? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/26 "2011-11-08T17:19:45Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If you took the bones out, it wouldn’t be crunchy then, would it? They’ve been replaced by peanuts. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/27 "2011-11-08T17:19:56Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Since I’m guessing you’d agree that a fetus is a person, what’s a word for an adult who gives realistic figurines of naked people to young children? Does it have a penis and a vagina? If not, how’s that make it different than any other doll? I mean, if we’re going to play a “Which is worse?” game, then I think Barbie dolls are worse. They actually have breasts. _BREASTS_, for Heaven’s sake! ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/28 "2011-11-08T17:27:08Z")
That’s the first time I’ve seen the “no u” gambit in a long time. Of course, I don’t hang out with teenagers. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/29 "2011-11-08T17:32:23Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Does it have a penis and a vagina? If not, how’s that make it different than any other doll? I mean, if we’re going to play a “Which is worse?” game, then I think Barbie dolls are worse. They actually have breasts. _BREASTS_, for Heaven’s sake! If you can stop thread-shitting for just a minute, would you mind giving a non-diversion answer to this question: Why do _you_ think they were handing out toy fetuses to children at a time when the expected handouts are candy and other treats? Do you believe that the members of _Project: Ignite_ really believed that children would consider the objects to be a treat of some sort? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/30 "2011-11-08T17:32:43Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > What’s the word to describe an irrational fear of fetuses? \ What? It’s a natural bodily function. Why do you have an irrational fear of something that is a normal part of life? What’s your problem anyway? Enjoy your turd. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/31 "2011-11-08T17:34:50Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > So what’s the big deal? Well, obviously, because it’s a fetus and, you know, fetuses are so offensive. Or something like that. Allegedly. To be this obtuse, you HAVE to be trolling. Are you REALLY saying that if little Suzy reaches into her Halloween bag to get a fun-sized Snickers and instead finds a fetus doll, that is something you are _okay with_? OTOH, if we start calling these fetus dolls “fun-sized adults” the conversation sounds funnier.:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/32 "2011-11-08T17:46:57Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If you can stop thread-shitting for just a minute, would you mind giving a non-diversion answer to this question: > > Why do you think they were handing out toy fetuses to children at a time when the expected handouts are candy and other treats? Do you believe that the members of Project: Ignite really believed that children would consider the objects to be a treat of some sort? It says why in the link. > [@](#): > > “We think it’s with the assumption that when we talk about life in the womb, it’s about abortion. But the whole concept of the event, the point of the outreach, the point of the models (are) we should respect life.” > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > \ > > What? It’s a natural bodily function. Why do you have an irrational fear of something that is a normal part of life? What’s your problem anyway? > > Enjoy your turd. So you consider a piece of feces to be equivalent to a fetus? Really, now. You’re going to have to try a bit harder than that. Actually, never mind. You’re probably trying as hard as you are, which makes it all the more sad. Though, it does give some insight into the “other side’s” thought process. > [@leftfield6](#): > > To be this obtuse, you HAVE to be trolling. …Right. I’ve noticed this a lot. “If you don’t agree with (not-so) conventional wisdom, you must be a troll!” Not sure how that works, but mmmkay. Whatever helps you sleep at night. > [@](#): > > Are you REALLY saying that if little Suzy reaches into her Halloween bag to get a fun-sized Snickers and instead finds a fetus doll, that is something you are okay with? That’s precisely what I said. I’m going to guess you wouldn’t complain if it was just a “regular” doll (you know, the newborn types), so your argument isn’t the fact that some child received a toy rather than candy. Rather, it’s simply about the doll being a fetus. But again I ask, what’s wrong with that? What do you find so offensive about a fetus? Curious minds want to know. Actually, if I might take a stab, I have a theory of my own. You can’t show a kid a picture of a fetus because then they might think it’s a baby and then grow up to be an anti-choice, religious zealot. Or so it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/33 "2011-11-08T17:50:47Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > It says why in the link. I can read-can you? I asked if _you_ thought they were being sincere with their answer. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/34 "2011-11-08T17:52:26Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > So you consider a piece of feces to be equivalent to a fetus? No, I consider a piece of feces to be equivalent to YOU. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/35 "2011-11-08T17:55:28Z")
Personally, this doesn’t offend me. The fetuses just look like little babies. Are they anatomically correct? As long as they’re anatomically correct, I wouldn’t mind. I mean, it’s weird as all hell, don’t get me wrong… but as far as finding it offensive, nah. The only thing I would maybe find irritating is if it somehow spawned conversations that the children were not ready for. I could see parents feeling that it infringed on their plans for raising their kid. But generally I think these sort of things are good to talk about with children. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/36 "2011-11-08T18:10:55Z")
OMGABC, see if you can follow along now… So, using little Suzy’s Halloween bag as a vehicle for delivering political or religious messages is okay with you, right? So, let’s experiment. Lets replace the fetus doll with: [ul] [li]a copy of the Bible[/li][li]a copy of the Book of Morman[/li][li]a copy of the Quran[/li][li]a giant dildo[/li][li]a loaded firearm[/li][li]a copy of Hustler magazine[/li][li]an R rated movie[/li][li]a photo of Michele Bachman[/li][/ul] Anything on that list you think over the line for our little Suzy? I mean, damn, we are not supposed to be “irrationally afraid” of anything, right? Just trying see where YOUR line is. BTW, lots and lots of people disagree with me, I know they are not all (or even mostly) obtuse. You, wow, well, I guess… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/37 "2011-11-08T18:16:39Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > OMGABC, see if you can follow along now… > > So, using little Suzy’s Halloween bag as a vehicle for delivering political or religious messages is okay with you, right? > > So, let’s experiment. Lets replace the fetus doll with: > [ul] > [li]a copy of the Bible[/li][li]a copy of the Book of Morman[/li][li]a copy of the Quran[/li][li]a giant dildo[/li][li]a loaded firearm[/li][li]a copy of Hustler magazine[/li][li]an R rated movie[/li][li]a photo of Michele Bachman[/li][/ul] Don’t forget [ul]a Chick tract.[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/38 "2011-11-08T18:17:08Z")
Of course he meant to spawn conversations children aren’t prepared for, that is the intention behind this kind of indoctrination. Why else would some fundy nutter plant items of a reproductive nature on kids too young to reproduce? The guy got exactly the reaction he intended, stirred up all kinds of shit in the minds of pre-pubescent kids whose knowledge of sex and reproduction is probably limited to rumors and misinformation at this point in their lives. Then he gets to gaze heavenward and claim innocence and persecution. Same nutjob would probably have a level 3 meltdown if his children were taught about reproduction in school at any age. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/39 "2011-11-08T18:17:31Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > [li]a photo of Michele Bachman[/li] Now that’s just beyond the pale. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/40 "2011-11-08T18:21:20Z")
You need to protest, but from the _more_ conservative angle, as Doug Stanhope describes: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/miQ1vnLInZg/hqdefault.jpg "Doug Stanhope - The Fetus Photo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miQ1vnLInZg) Accuse him of being a pre-term necrophiliac pedophile. “How dare you sir, these fetuses are NAKED! You could have put little bathing suits on them, but that wouldn’t have satisfied your sick desires, would it?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279.md?page=3)