# Hey, guy passing out fetus dolls at a Halloween event, come on down to the pit.

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**Created:** [November 8, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279 "2011-11-08T15:12:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/101 "2011-11-09T19:55:58Z")

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I cheerfully accept the possibility of a non-null intersect of the subsets “shit-stirrer” and “sincere”.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/102 "2011-11-09T19:56:02Z")

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Yeah, back to that…

Just an update on, you kno, the topic and all

The kook passing out the little darling fetus dolls claimed to have only given them to children after a parental okay to do so. Umm, apprently not. Multiple people have posted on local area websites and boards. Here are two representative excerpts

From Jeffrey A:

> [@](#):
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> I was handed one of those dolls by a friend who said her 6 year old grandson found one in his bag after the T/T Mainstreet. Read that…he found it in his bag, after the fact. By implication, that means it was slipped in the bag under some candy, the intent likely to be found later. Imagine how that went. “Grandma, what’s this?”
> 
> I am pro-life and have very strong opinions on the subject of abortion…BUT  
> There is no way that handing those things out to small children is appropriate.  
> Shock politics has no place in little kids trick or treat bags. Perfect example of a message getting lost because of the way it was delivered. I’m calling extreme party foul here. I hope this group is uninvited to the event next year.

From Kelli S

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> It was bad judgement as to where to hand these out. Trick or Treat Main Street was geared toward small children… my 22 month old son and 23 month old grand daughter got one in their buckets… Really??? My 22 month old son brought it to me and said, “yuck, dog poo” , on the other hand, my 14 and 16 year old sons and their friends who helped with the smaller kids said it was interesting information…  
> I think it was just a bad choice of venues to hand out such information.

There are others, but we get the point

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Those options are not mutually exclusive. A deliberate shit-stirrer who is 100% sincere is still a deliberate shit-stirrer (i.e.: a troll).

Hey, if we take those little fetus dolls and stick some spiky pink hair on thier head we have a very [troll like look.](http://hollywoodhatesme.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/troll.jpg?w=300&h=225)

There’s a circular beauty there somewhere at the intersection of trolls, fetus dolls, and extremists.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/104 "2011-11-09T20:13:46Z")

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Huh, regarding the granddaughter in the “Kelli S” account - she’s older than her own uncle.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/105 "2011-11-09T20:56:08Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Huh, only four threads. For some reason I thought there were more. Anyway, on review I see I was active to varying degrees in all of them, pointing out the flaws in your various premises. I’m actually rather proud of the reasoning and wit I showed in all four - your premises were ignorant and I addressed this intelligently. In none of them do I see myself disagreeing with on mere ideological grounds. Rather, I consistently disagree with you because your opinions are _stupid_ and short-sighted, and on a few occasions, the only response you can give to someone pointing out the obvious flaw in your premise is to accuse them of strawmanning you.

Ummm, right. Have you ever noticed that, in general, whenever you show up in a thread where I am, the topic kind of veers off on some totally unrelated tangent? I mean, a tangent that is so totally removed from the original topic, as to be in some completely parallel universe? But, anyway, you say you’re not disagreeing with my opinions on ideological grounds but because they are stupid and short-sighted? Well, why are they stupid and short-sighted? Obviously because you disagree with them, but I mean beyond that.

> [@](#):
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> Well, assuming that you actually _are_ a black conservative (and, I further assume that since you chose this particular link, also a tea party backer, though it would be perfectly and predictably in character for you to turn around and say “I never said I was a tea party backer”)… so? Are you expecting me to be impressed by how oppressed you are? Go sell that story to some stereotypical guilt-written white liberal, bub. Your race is of no significance to me, and I personally think it’s a failing of Americans for whom it _is_ significant. Your attempts to keep brandishing your race (and indeed, to choose a corresponding username) are no cover for how stupid you and your opinions are.

You don’t have to be impressed by anything. I just thought I’d bring to your attention the “shock value” regarding my name, since you apparently seem to believe that “no one cares that I’m a Black conservative (and, yes, I really am)” or that my name is “trollish”. My username has meaning, and it ain’t imagined. I accept your apology, though.

> [@](#):
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> And, of course, there’s always the possibility these these are not your opinions at all, that your behaviour on this board is just a massive troll-run. If so, I don’t think of myself as feeding a troll - rather, I’ve been _using_ the troll to express well-reasoned arguments against what the troll claims to believe, which happens to be virtually identical to what many Fox News-watching, Limbaugh-listening, Palin-voting Americans claim to believe. Anyway, I don’t think I’ll bother accusing you of trolling again. Just assume that there’s always a little asterisk somewhere in my responses, linked to a footnote that says: (\*Assuming of course, you actually believe what you’re claiming.)

Well, first and foremost, I watch FOX sometimes (yes, I do), I’ve never listened to Rush Limbaugh (I’ve no idea when he even comes on or on what station) and I’m 100% I’ve never voted for Palin in any facet, including for VP (omg i no, rite?). Come on, now. Couldn’t you at the very least come up with some non-common accusations?

But, no, you’re not feeding a troll. Just your average, run of the mill conservative. Only Blacker than what’s normally expected.

> [@](#):
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> Oh, and… uh… giving out fetuses for Hallowe’en is gross.

Why is it gross?

Edit: Oh, yeah. I’m totally okay with the Tea Party. Rock on, people.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/106 "2011-11-09T22:02:10Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Ummm, right. Have you ever noticed that, in general, whenever you show up in a thread where I am, the topic kind of veers off on some totally unrelated tangent?

I had not actually noticed this, but so what? Thread topics meander. I _have_ noticed on occasion you saying “stick to the topic” (or some variant) when someone points out flaws in your reasoning, as if they’re being _rude_ or something by pointing out the obvious.

> [@](#):
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> But, anyway, you say you’re not disagreeing with my opinions on ideological grounds but because they are stupid and short-sighted? Well, why are they stupid and short-sighted? Obviously because you disagree with them, but I mean beyond that.

I don’t think I’ve even been shy about explaining my reasoning. In the four threads, certainly, I’m not being coy. I see posts of mine that raise points that were valid then, and remain valid now.

> [@](#):
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> I just thought I’d bring to your attention the “shock value” regarding my name, since you apparently seem to believe that “no one cares that I’m a Black conservative (and, yes, I really am)”

Show me where I said “no one cares.”

Just kidding - of _course_ I never said no one cares. In fact, I specifically used the word “doofi” to describe the people who _do_ care, on the assumption that such people actually exist. I’m not going to bother finding out who they are, though - I just figure their existence is a rational possibility.

In any case, you came on this board with a username that screams “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder - I’m a black conservative, and you liberal pussies can’t handle that, can you? Can you? Huh? They don’t talk about black conservatives in your hippie drum circles, do they? Huh?”

Or something more-or-less to that effect. Heck, if you’d just been “Black Conservative”… big deal. But “[Oh my God], a Black Conservative”, pre-emptively assuming a horrified, shocked, and/or surprised reaction at your mere existence… get over yourself. :rolleyes: Next up, welcome our newest user: “Proud Klansman, and what YOU gonna do about it, fag?”

> [@](#):
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> I accept your apology, though.

None was offered or implied, obviously. I stand by my assessment of the intent behind your choice of username.

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> Well, first and foremost, I watch FOX sometimes (yes, I do), I’ve never listened to Rush Limbaugh (I’ve no idea when he even comes on or on what station) and I’m 100% I’ve never voted for Palin in any facet, including for VP (omg i no, rite?). Come on, now. Couldn’t you at the very least come up with some non-common accusations?

I don’t care what YOU do in our spare time. My point, obvious to anyone who can read, is that:

1. You’re claiming a particular set of beliefs, political stances, etc.
2. I don’t know if you actually embrace these beliefs, or are just trolling/faking. It doesn’t really matter either way.
3. I do know that there are many Americans who _do_ embrace these beliefs, and in sufficient numbers that they’re having an effect on American politics.
4. Refuting you on this board is good and entertaining practice for refuting them.

> [@](#):
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> But, no, you’re not feeding a troll. Just your average, run of the mill conservative. Only Blacker than what’s normally expected.

Well, to the extent that it matters, suuuuure (;)), I’ll take your word for it. Really, I will.[sup]\*[/sup]

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/107 "2011-11-09T22:22:36Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Around these parts we have Abortion Claus…a guy dressed like Santa protesting at the local abortion mill around the holiday season. But I never see the Abortion Turkey/Pilgrim, the Abortion New Years Baby/Old Man Time, the Abortion Cupid, the Abortion Uncle Sam or any other Abortion Holiday Persona. So, I guess the Abortion Guy only does come around about one time period per year.

Abortion Claus: Like Santa, but with much worse presents. You DON’T want to know what he gives the naughty kids…

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/108 "2011-11-09T22:25:07Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Huh, regarding the granddaughter in the “Kelli S” account - she’s older than her own uncle.

It’s rural GA, that kinda shit happens.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/109 "2011-11-10T04:12:23Z")

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Well, maybe during their shared 21st birthday celebration, they’ll both get drunk and produce a cousin/great-nephew.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/110 "2011-11-10T07:16:48Z")

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I wish they had these when my kids were young enough to Trick-or-Treat. It would have gone great with their Barbie Abortionist playset.

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**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/111 "2011-11-10T07:30:51Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> If I may:
> 
> “What’s that?”  
> “It’s a fetus.”  
> “What’s a fetus?”  
> “It’s what you looked like before you were born.”  
> “Oh, okay.”
> 
> No mention of abortion or whatever.

You don’t know any real-life children, do you? Or are they all already trained in the fundie mindset of not asking questions?

Some more likely reactions from kids at answer 2 would be:

- Why were my eyes shut?
- How come I look different today?
- Where was I? How did I get there?
- Can you show me a picture? Why did that guy give me a doll of how I looked instead of a picture?
- I was made from plastic in China? Waaahhh! _sob_

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/112 "2011-11-10T10:38:41Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Huh, regarding the granddaughter in the “Kelli S” account - she’s older than her own uncle.

Hey, it happens. My daughter and my grand-niece are six months apart in age.

I envision **OMGaBC** as the pugnacious guy off _Family Guy_, jumping in at every opportunity with “Yeah, I’m a black conservative, so what, wanna fight about it?”.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/113 "2011-11-10T14:24:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Omg a Black Conservative]

Why is it gross?

[/QUOTE]

See, this is how we know you’re trolling. No one reading this believes you actually need an explanation for why fetuses are gross, or that being conservative could somehow contribute to you being unaware that even things generally Halloween-related avoid using fetuses for gross-out factor.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/114 "2011-11-10T14:34:11Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> See, this is how we know you’re trolling. No one reading this believes you actually need an explanation for why fetuses are gross, or that being conservative could somehow contribute to you being unaware that even things generally Halloween-related avoid using fetuses for gross-out factor.

Maybe if it were a zombie fetus. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/115 "2011-11-10T14:34:49Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> I was made from plastic in China? Waaahhh! _sob_

[Some girls never quite get over this early trauma.](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/courtney-stodden-breast-implants.jpg)

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/116 "2011-11-10T14:48:16Z")

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Actually, I was thinking of the [Ottifanten](http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottifant)comics, where the small (snarky, wise-assed) kid gets a teddy bear while sitting in his play pen (which he calls a prison) and starts talking to him “Hey pal, what’s your name?” Unlike Calvin and Hobbes, the teddy bear doesn’t talk back (“So you’re the silent type. Clever.”), so the kid turns the teddy bear around and finds the tag “Made in Hongkong”\* and assumes that’s his name. “Can I call you Honk for short?”

From that moment on, the teddy bear is called “Honk”.

\*Yes, the kid can read. It’s a fun comic with snark and satire.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/117 "2011-11-10T15:26:10Z")

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Clearly this stunt was a lame attempt to garner media attention, in the misguided belief that any publicity is good publicity. Wrong, it makes the whole pro life movement look like a bunch of lunatics.

Secondly it was an attempt to impact the pre, ‘age of consciousness’, demographic because, gosh darn, the thinking public are way harder to sway.

Lame and embarrassingly lame, at the same time.

Next year maybe pro choicer’s should hand out little coffins with Ronald Reagan in them. Because, y’know, he’s dead and it’s Halloween!

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/118 "2011-11-10T16:38:05Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I had not actually noticed this, but so what? Thread topics meander. I _have_ noticed on occasion you saying “stick to the topic” (or some variant) when someone points out flaws in your reasoning, as if they’re being _rude_ or something by pointing out the obvious.

You have a knack for dragging a topic off-topic, and then engaging in some ridiculous straw man (or just sophistry, in general). If you think me telling you to stick to the topic at hand is wanting to avoid you pointing out the flaws in my reasoning regarding a topic I wasn’t talking about to begin with is trying to avoid the flaws in my reasoning, then I suppose I’m guilty as charged.

> [@](#):
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> In any case, you came on this board with a username that screams “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder - I’m a black conservative, and you liberal pussies can’t handle that, can you? Can you? Huh? They don’t talk about black conservatives in your hippie drum circles, do they? Huh?”
> 
> Or something more-or-less to that effect. Heck, if you’d just been “Black Conservative”… big deal. But “[Oh my God], a Black Conservative”, pre-emptively assuming a horrified, shocked, and/or surprised reaction at your mere existence… get over yourself. :rolleyes: Next up, welcome our newest user: “Proud Klansman, and what YOU gonna do about it, fag?”
> 
> None was offered or implied, obviously. I stand by my assessment of the intent behind your choice of username.

Well, it’s already been explained to you my username, and you were given some of the requisite proof leading me to choose my username, and you could easily find more of it on the internet if you so chose to do so (but you won’t, as you have an aversion to looking things up), so your assessment would be wrong. Can’t really help you if you want to ignore a simple fact of life.

…And when was the last time you saw someone express shock and disbelief at a proud Klansman? After all, according to some unnamed persons of certain political leanings, proud Klansmen dominate the South.

> [@](#):
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> I don’t care what YOU do in our spare time. My point, obvious to anyone who can read, is that:
> 
> 1. You’re claiming a particular set of beliefs, political stances, etc.
> 2. I don’t know if you actually embrace these beliefs, or are just trolling/faking. It doesn’t really matter either way.
> 3. I do know that there are many Americans who _do_ embrace these beliefs, and in sufficient numbers that they’re having an effect on American politics.
> 4. Refuting you on this board is good and entertaining practice for refuting them.

Ummm… Right. You’re in for a world of hurt, methinks. Or, I should say, meknows. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you refute anything. Well, unless you deem, “I think therefore I don’t have to defend” is some kind of refutation technique. In fact, I think I’ve only ever seen you look one thing up. Ever. Otherwise, as it usually goes, it’s just me saying something, you saying something, me sourcing my claims and you treating your claims as self-evident. Buuut… We’ve been over this again and again and again and again and again, and I’ve pointed it out just as many time again and again and again and again and again, to no avail, so I suppose I’ll just end up shrugging my shoulders and going about my business.

> [@](#):
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> Well, to the extent that it matters, suuuuure (;)), I’ll take your word for it. Really, I will.[sup]\*[/sup]

Well, you don’t have much of any choice, do you?

> [@constanze](#):
>
> You don’t know any real-life children, do you?

Indeed, I do.

> [@](#):
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> Or are they all already trained in the fundie mindset of not asking questions?

Not sure. But, for argument’s sake, we’ll say that they are.

> [@](#):
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> Some more likely reactions from kids at answer 2 would be:
> 
> - Why were my eyes shut?
> - How come I look different today?
> - Where was I? How did I get there?
> - Can you show me a picture? Why did that guy give me a doll of how I looked instead of a picture?
> - I was made from plastic in China? Waaahhh! _sob_

-“Because you weren’t able to open them yet.”  
-“Because you grew, much the same way you look different today than when you were born.”  
-“You were in your mother’s belly until one day, when you were born.”  
-1.) “He didn’t give you a picture because he didn’t have a picture of you, but I have one I can show you at home.” or “He didn’t give you a picture because he didn’t have a picture of you and, unfortunately, neither do I.”  
-“Yes, and you still are.”

Quite simple and no mention of abortion necessary.

(Oh, yeah. I just a picture of a fetus to my two-year old nephew. He looked at me and asked “What’s that?” and I said a fetus. He then ran off and is busy opening some cabinets or whatever he fancies.)

> [@wevets](#):
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> See, this is how we know you’re trolling. No one reading this believes you actually need an explanation for why fetuses are gross, or that being conservative could somehow contribute to you being unaware that even things generally Halloween-related avoid using fetuses for gross-out factor.

So someone says fetuses are gross, I ask why it’s gross and the response I get is “Because they are. You’re just trolling if you don’t think so!”. Interesting. Actually, it’s not so much of interesting, as it’s the expected response.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/119 "2011-11-10T17:41:16Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So someone says fetuses are gross, I ask why it’s gross and the response I get is “Because they are. You’re just trolling if you don’t think so!”.

Yup. It’s kinda like asking if water is wet, why rainy days are colder than sunny days, and why beans and farting are linked.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-guy-passing-out-fetus-dolls-at-a-halloween-event-come-on-down-to-the-pit/602279/120 "2011-11-10T18:04:43Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> Yup. It’s kinda like asking if water is wet, why rainy days are colder than sunny days, and why beans and farting are linked.

Well, let’s try this. For those of us who don’t find fetuses to be inherently gross, could you explain why they are gross? I don’t think that’s asking too much, to be honest.

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