# Hey, I'm a cat lady, you know?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 26, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807 "2024-07-26T04:25:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/61 "2024-07-27T15:12:28Z")

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Here you go: [Childless Cat Lady T-shirt](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1766457659/childless-cat-lady-childless-cat-ladies)

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/62 "2024-07-27T15:15:06Z")

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This man is ignorant as hell. He’s out there claiming women who don’t have children don’t have a stake in America. Women without children have nieces and nephews and friends with children who they care about. Now he’s calling Jennifer Aniston creepy and disgusting for her comment about his opinion on childless women.

Maybe he’s secretly still a never trump guy after all.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/63 "2024-07-27T15:53:12Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Maybe he’s secretly still a never trump guy after all.

My suspicion is that one of these two are true:

1. He is a True Believer on Christian Dominionism, and he is 100% all-in on what he says. He truly believes that Democrats, and people who don’t adhere to traditional family values and traditional family structures, are an existential threat to the U.S.

2. His public persona is something that he has adjusted over the past decade, to fit what his aspirations are. He doesn’t actually believe any of this crap\*, but much like his new boss, he says it (and even double-downs on it) because it resonates with the people from whom he wants support: conservative, evangelical white Christians, most of whom _are_ all-in on Christian Dominionism.

\*- Note that he talks about how women should focus on traditional roles, and how families are “better” when they are supported by solely the husband working, while his own wife is a high-powered lawyer, who only quit her job when JD became Trump’s running mate.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/64 "2024-07-27T16:56:51Z")

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I heard him say some real shit about children should have the right to vote, as their parents tell them to.  
That’s kinda not how it works. What a dumb ass.

Can you imagine? How many kids are in foster care? Who tells them how to vote?

What about adopted kids?  
What about foreign adopted kids?  
IVF kids?  
Blind or deaf children?  
Disabled?  
Autistic?  
On and on and on.

That is the most ridiculous thing I think I’ve ever heard a political candidate say.

Trump spouts nonsense, we can hear it easily.  
Vance may be more dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/65 "2024-07-27T17:04:26Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> That is the most ridiculous thing I think I’ve ever heard a political candidate say.

You’re not paying attention then.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/66 "2024-07-27T17:11:09Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Speaking as a human, denigrating families with adopted kids and step-children is the stuff of villainy. Cite: Brothers Grimm.

Auxiliary cite: a certain fan (you might even say she was zealous on the topic) of the concept of Zero Population Growth.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/67 "2024-07-27T17:16:44Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I really wish I had some money. I want a “Childless Cat Ladies Vote” tshirt.

Do you have a tshirt and a marker?

And a cat (optional)?

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/68 "2024-07-27T18:06:12Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I heard him say some real shit about children should have the right to vote, as their parents tell them to.

Has he ever … actually met a child? I mean, if someone had given four-year-old me the right to vote, I would’ve voted for Reagan, much to the chagrin of my Democratic parents, because I thought he was handsomer than Carter. Children aren’t blank slates with no opinions of their own, and children of conservative Republicans, I suspect, are _especially_ likely to diverge from their parents’ views. Unless the idea is that the parents are supposed to cast the votes without actually consulting the child (in which case, it makes no sense to say the _child_ has the right to vote), I don’t think this is necessarily going to work out the way he expects…

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/69 "2024-07-27T18:09:28Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> Unless the idea is that the parents are supposed to cast the votes without actually consulting the child

That is _ **exactly** _ what his idea is, or at least was in 2021:

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> “Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of those children,” [said Vance](https://youtu.be/jBrEng3xQYo?si=R53eIMgqBM02w4JX&t=1534) in a 2021 talk hosted by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute.

> **[Should Parents Vote on Behalf of Their Kids? J.D. Vance Isn’t the Only One...](https://www.ncregister.com/news/jd-vance-parental-proxy-voting)**
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> The Republican vice-presidential candidate has come under fire for his views on ‘parental voting,’ but the idea isn’t new and isn’t necessarily partisan.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/70 "2024-07-27T18:09:41Z")

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> [@Eva\_Luna](#):
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> If you see any particularly cool T-shirts like that, please share! If I were going to be in the U.S. on Election Day, I might wear it to the polls

[In my state](https://www.sec.state.ma.us/divisions/elections/download/advisories/Election-Advisory-20-12-Electioneering-and-the-150-ft-Rule.pdf) at least you’re not allowed to display, including wear, any political sloganeering within 150 feet of a polling place.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/71 "2024-07-27T18:15:06Z")

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Indeed. There have been cases where people have had to turn their shirts inside out of take them off to vote.

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/72 "2024-07-27T18:20:05Z")

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The Rep nominee wants to “grab them by the pussy.”

His VP pick loathes “cat ladies.”

Guys, you’ve got to coordinate your messages!

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/73 "2024-07-27T18:21:35Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> > [@Eva\_Luna](#):
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> > If you see any particularly cool T-shirts like that, please share! If I were going to be in the U.S. on Election Day, I might wear it to the polls
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> [In my state](https://www.sec.state.ma.us/divisions/elections/download/advisories/Election-Advisory-20-12-Electioneering-and-the-150-ft-Rule.pdf) at least you’re not allowed to display, including wear, any political sloganeering within 150 feet of a polling place.

Same. When i worked at the polls i had training on what to do if someone shows up wearing an inappropriate slogan.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/74 "2024-07-27T18:22:42Z")

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We have a similar rule, but in all seriousness, how is this a political slogan? It mentions no party, candidate, or political issue.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/75 "2024-07-27T18:25:49Z")

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> [@Eva\_Luna](#):
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> but in all seriousness, how is this a political slogan?

Given that it wasn’t even a thing until the past couple of weeks, and was created in direct response to (and opposition to) a statement by Vance, I think it’s hard to argue that it’s _not_ a political slogan.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/76 "2024-07-27T18:29:34Z")

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I have a hoodie that says, “Yeah, I’m with her”  
I wore to vote for Hillary. No one said a word.

If you want a T-shirt that say anything you want go to: [GiantHoodie.com](http://GiantHoodie.com)

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/77 "2024-07-27T19:03:03Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I heard him say some real shit about children should have the right to vote, as their parents tell them to.  
> That’s kinda not how it works. What a dumb ass.
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> Can you imagine? How many kids are in foster care? Who tells them how to vote?

And how many kids, let loose in private in a voting booth, will vote counter to the way their parents tell them?

Though I wouldn’t be surprised if Vance thinks that votes shouldn’t be private, but should be overseen, to make sure that everyone votes the “right” way.

> [@digs](#):
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> Do you have a tshirt and a marker?
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> And a cat (optional)?

The cats are in no way optional. Just ask them.

I do have markers, and a tshirt or two that don’t already say something (though usually the something isn’t political.) But my artwork is not that great, and my handwriting is atrocious. And the tshirts that already have cats on them aren’t really designed well for writing anything on them.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/78 "2024-07-27T19:05:00Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Though I wouldn’t be surprised if Vance thinks that votes shouldn’t be private, but should be overseen, to make sure that everyone votes the “right” way.

As I noted a short time ago:

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> That is _ **exactly** _ what his idea is, or at least was in 2021:
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> > [@](#):
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> > “Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of those children,” [said Vance](https://youtu.be/jBrEng3xQYo?si=R53eIMgqBM02w4JX&t=1534) in a 2021 talk hosted by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/79 "2024-07-27T19:05:24Z")

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He’s wishing trump tower had windows that opened.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-im-a-cat-lady-you-know/1004807/80 "2024-07-27T20:37:15Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> Has he ever … actually met a child?

He had three.

> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> [In my state](https://www.sec.state.ma.us/divisions/elections/download/advisories/Election-Advisory-20-12-Electioneering-and-the-150-ft-Rule.pdf) at least you’re not allowed to display, including wear, any political sloganeering within 150 feet of a polling place.

Hmm, yes, true, but is a stand against fascism such a slogan?

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