# Hey, Islamo-fascist freaks - STEP IN HERE

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 21, 2004, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293 "2004-09-21T08:24:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/41 "2004-09-21T13:03:55Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> I curse your religion and I curse your god, for Allah is not Yahweh. Your father, Ishmael, knew Yahweh, but you have turned from him to worship a false prophet and an illegitimate god.

Yeah, your imaginary god can totally kick their imaginary god’s _butt!_

(Can somebody please buy me a ticket out of Crazyville?)

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/42 "2004-09-21T13:04:39Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> Urgh! What, you can’t curse someone who decapitates a man with a blunt knife and record it on a snuff movie for future mastrubation pleasures without being called a bigot? I just called the stupid bitch cutting in front of me something worse. Oh oy! How bad am I?!
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> I think it’s pretty obvious Dirk Gently is talking about the extremists Moslems who scream Allah Akbar and all that shit while torturing some poor sod to dead - and not all Moslems in general.  
> Oh but it is. The God of fascistic Moslems. You on the other hand are insulting all peace loving Moslems by insinuating the sick religion and perverted god of those murdering bastards is the same as theirs.

If **Dirk Gently** wants support he needs to tell me who to support. He just rambled about muslims. I need names and adresses (the prime twat demands details 😃 )

If you calling the stupid bitch in front of you names was reason for bigotry, then we would all be guilty ( and Helen would have a letter in the mail). Fortunately calling someone names is not the same as blowing them up. No matter what side you are on.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/43 "2004-09-21T13:15:01Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Yeah, your imaginary god can totally kick their imaginary god’s _butt!_
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> (Can somebody please buy me a ticket out of Crazyville?)

Hah! You’re just pissed off because Lilith had bigger tits than you!

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/44 "2004-09-21T13:47:34Z")

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> BTW if it isn’t painfully clear, we should pull out of that fucking hellhole.

Please take off your rose-colored glasses and consider the repercussions of your words. We have gone in and destroyed any semblance of order in Iraq. A power vacuum now exists. We cannot pull out now. Did we learn nothing from Vietnam? Or from the Russians pulling out of Afghanistan?

If we withdraw our forces now, what do you think will become of the people who supported us? What will become of the new president who stepped up to the plate and took that job knowing he was literally putting his head on the plate? What will become of the thousands of innocent Muslims who decry and condemn the acts of these brutal men? Would you leave them to the mercy of brutal zealots?

Whether you agree with Bush’s decision to enter Iraq or not is a moot point. We did. I cannot believe that anyone can propose pulling out of that country now and sleep with a clear conscience.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/45 "2004-09-21T13:47:57Z")

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> [@InvidiousCourgette](#):
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> I think it is important to recognise that the insurgents in Iraq are not targetting people based on their religion. They are targetting what they perceive to be invaders of their country and the government installed by those invaders. In practical terms they are killing many more \*Moslem \* Iraqis than Westerners. Of course when it comes to hostages, Westerners are worth much more to them than a fellow Iraqi. Which reflects our own valuation.

First off, with regard to the number of muslims targeted, I would suggest that collaborators are generally more hated than invaders in any invasion scenario.

A different religion is what makes the present invaders completely unacceptable in this region . You don’t hear of much insurgency in muslim countries outside of Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel and India and the Phillipines. I don’t recall the Ottomans having much resistance to their occupation of Iraq either.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/46 "2004-09-21T13:49:43Z")

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> (Can somebody please buy me a ticket out of Crazyville?)

You can buy all the tickets you want but it won’t help. The train doesn’t stop here.

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**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/47 "2004-09-21T13:49:54Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> The video is wrenching. Moreso than the previous videos because it is obvious he is alive, and he is sobbing.

Am I the only one who hasn’t seen the video?

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/48 "2004-09-21T13:54:21Z")

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I will make this abundantly clear (sorry, I had to sleep sometime, folks, so a bit late re-entering the fray)…

…my rant was against Islamo-fascists and their interpretation of their religion. I chose to invoke Yahweh, Jehovah, Jews and infidels as intentionally provocative. I had hoped that, by pointing specifically to Islamo-fascists at the beginning to avoid having to be specific in each paragraph following.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/49 "2004-09-21T13:58:15Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> I curse you and wish that when you eventually die (as we all must), that you perish in a vat of pig’s blood, by the hand of an “infidel,” and that when they bury you, that you are buried face-down in an unmarked ditch. I heap upon you the curse of Jezebel; that dogs would devour your bones and your blood, leaving only your hands and feet - for your hands and feet are accursed. They are the tools of your depravity. I curse your descendants, your line and your heirs, that they would meet the same fate as you and that your family name would cease to exist from the face of the earth. I heap upon you a curse of Yahweh, for you are usurpers; descendants of the illegitimate son of a tent-maid with no promise other than that you would become a great nation. You feign peace, but actually intend submission; you have indeed become a great nation in number, but your end comes quickly. The hand of Jehovah has been stayed against you because of your father, Abraham, but the hand will be stayed no longer. The full measure of the original blessing has been fulfilled; it is time to reap the curse.

As I read this OP, I think I am beginning to understand what Kyle and Stan were thinking when they watched Cartman trick Scott Tenorman into eating his parents. My response is similar to thier’s: I think I’ll do whatever I can to avoid pissing **DirkGntly** off.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/50 "2004-09-21T14:00:31Z")

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In no uncertain terms, I told the Islamo-fascist freaks to [step off](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=145692&highlight=fundamentalist+step), two years ago; however, they didn’t do so.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/51 "2004-09-21T14:12:53Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> If we withdraw our forces now, what do you think will become of the people who supported us? What will become of the new president who stepped up to the plate and took that job knowing he was literally putting his head on the plate? What will become of the thousands of innocent Muslims who decry and condemn the acts of these brutal men? Would you leave them to the mercy of brutal zealots?
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> Whether you agree with Bush’s decision to enter Iraq or not is a moot point. We did. I cannot believe that anyone can propose pulling out of that country now and sleep with a clear conscience.

Sad to say **Lisa** , but letting them kill each other and sort it out might not be the worst case scenario. Our presence there is delaying an _inevitable_ civil war. We can…

a) pull out now, let them slaughter each other, and hopefully move on to civlilty.  
b) Wait 10 years, spend hundreds of billions, pull out, _and then_ let them slaughter each other, and hopefully move on to civlilty.

These people _don’t want_ democracy, and trying to shove it down their throats ain’t going to work.

Of course I thought we should have left SH in charge. Probably because I love him. :rolleyes: Not that it would have avoided the current shitstorm or anything. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/52 "2004-09-21T14:18:59Z")

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> [@kka](#):
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> Am I the only one who hasn’t seen the video?

If you Google **eugene armstrong video** you’ll find it, although it’s not for the weak of heart or stomach.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/53 "2004-09-21T14:21:03Z")

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Interestingly enough, I’ve had zero desire to watch any of these beheading videos. I think when the first one came out, a friend who saw it kept saying he wished he never had seen it.

\<shrug\>

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**Author:** ![choosybeggar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@choosybeggar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choosybeggar)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/54 "2004-09-21T14:29:07Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> If you Google **eugene armstrong video** you’ll find it, although it’s not for the weak of heart or stomach.

I failed to find it. Could you email a link?

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/55 "2004-09-21T14:39:11Z")

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> [@choosybeggar](#):
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> I failed to find it. Could you email a link?

[I saw this beheading video](http://www.filtrat.dk/grafik/jihadkids(1).wmv)

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/56 "2004-09-21T14:47:30Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Interestingly enough, I’ve had zero desire to watch any of these beheading videos. I think when the first one came out, a friend who saw it kept saying he wished he never had seen it.
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> \<shrug\>

I didn’t watch this one; i just know where to find it. I saw the one with Nicholas Berg, and i have to agree with your friend. Real violence is so much more brutal and distressing than the stylized versions glamorized by Tarantino et al.

BTW **Rune** , i think the Board might frown on direct links to stuff like that.

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/57 "2004-09-21T14:52:09Z")

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Originally posted by **PunditLisa**

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> \*What will become of the thousands of innocent Muslims who decry and condemn the acts of these brutal men? \*

Please. I’m not being sarcastic, but could you please point me to some decrying and condemning?

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/58 "2004-09-21T14:54:43Z")

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Do those who died get a vote?

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**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/59 "2004-09-21T15:10:22Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Sad to say **Lisa** , but letting them kill each other and sort it out might not be the worst case scenario.

This is the saddest thought of all. We have spent billions prosecuting this war. We have seen thousands of Iraqis die. We have created hundreds of widows and orphans back at home. We have turned life into hell in Iraq. And at the end of all this, having not found what we went in for, letting those left alive kill each other “might not be the worst case scenario”.

I curse those who hold life as worthless. I reserve my deepest damnation for the warmongers who brought us to this hellish, impossible situation.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/60 "2004-09-21T15:20:24Z")

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> [@InvidiousCourgette](#):
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> This is the saddest thought of all. We have spent billions prosecuting this war. We have seen thousands of Iraqis die. We have created hundreds of widows and orphans back at home. We have turned life into hell in Iraq. And at the end of all this, having not found what we went in for, letting those left alive kill each other “might not be the worst case scenario”.
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> I curse those who hold life as worthless. I reserve my deepest damnation for the warmongers who brought us to this hellish, impossible situation.

As will I, especially the morning of Nov 3rd

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