# Hey, Islamo-fascist freaks - STEP IN HERE **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 21, 2004, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293 "2004-09-21T08:24:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/121 "2004-09-22T10:13:44Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > Hey **jjimm** I’m not too sure of your position. Are you saying killing is wrong but so is being idiotic jingoistic Islam phobic cunt? > > Is that what your saying? Dunno, I can’t work it out myself. Perhaps **gummy bear** can let me know. I think we need a sticky that people can sign up to saying I CONDEMN GENOCIDE AND TERRORISM. You know, just so stupid people can’t imply that one does. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/122 "2004-09-22T10:16:46Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Dunno, I can’t work it out myself. Perhaps **gummy bear** can let me know. > > I think we need a sticky that people can sign up to saying I CONDEMN GENOCIDE AND TERRORISM. You know, just so stupid people can’t imply that one does. Ah now come on a bit of genocide can be the craic if organised well. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/123 "2004-09-22T10:18:04Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > Ah now come on a bit of genocide can be the craic if organised well. Yez didn’t say that when we poisoned your potatoes. ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/124 "2004-09-22T10:18:26Z")
> [@gum](#): > > oh, wow, **InvidiousCourgette**. I didn’t want to drag the nazi’s and genocide into this, but have you read the article? Talking about genocide… Yes I have. It is never acceptable under any circumstances. OK? It is in all of us though, if we swallow enough hate. Terrorism itself is in all of us. Occupy a country and you are going to get insurgents. That is the way the world works. It happened in Vietnam, it happened in Ireland, it is happening in Iraq. Religion comes into it, but it is peripheral to the subject of nation state. Legitimacy comes into it, and that carried the day in post WWII Germany. When the legitimacy is not iron clad, things get nastier. Look in your atlas to see where people perceive themselves to be occupied. That is where you will see terrorism. It is convenient to blame a religion, but it does not stand up to scrutiny. Learn to differentiate between correlation and causation. If some foreign state occupied our countries, I am pretty sure you would pretty soon see some fucking nasty terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/125 "2004-09-22T13:13:49Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > The majority of Muslims _that you see on the news_ fucking suck. The majority of Muslims don’t. You are ignorant. > > Somalia - I don’t recall the religion of the participants in the Rwandan genocide being an issue. Why is it an issue in Somalia, which is an ethnic conflict that just happens to involve Muslims. > > Fucking hell, this Islamophobia is making my head spin. Yeah, the majority of terrorists today appear to be Muslim, and most of them are religiously motivated, but the terrorists are NOT the majority of Muslims. You fucking eejits. I didn’t say that the majority were terrorists. The majority of muslims care only about themselves and their own beliefs. They don’t give a flying fuck about anyone who doesn’t agree with them or see the world thru their totally fucked up eyes. The Islamic mindset has ruined an entire region of the world and now that it has pretty much finished off the middle east it is trying to spread its disease of bullying and oppression across the rest of the world. There are exceptions to every generalization which is why I said “the majority but not all”. The “Majority” of the worlds muslims use antiquated ideals to spread hate across the world. They fucking suck. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/126 "2004-09-22T13:15:58Z")
Oh, FTR, pre Iraqi Freedom I spent 19 months total in the middle east including UAE, Kuwait and Saudi. I dealt with regular everyday people over there on a regular basis. My opinion is not based solely off the news and talk shows. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/127 "2004-09-22T13:16:52Z")
> [@Stinkpalm](#): > > I didn’t say that the majority were terrorists. The majority of muslims care only about themselves and their own beliefs. They don’t give a flying fuck about anyone who doesn’t agree with them or see the world thru their totally fucked up eyes. > > The Islamic mindset has ruined an entire region of the world and now that it has pretty much finished off the middle east it is trying to spread its disease of bullying and oppression across the rest of the world. > > There are exceptions to every generalization which is why I said “the majority but not all”. The “Majority” of the worlds muslims use antiquated ideals to spread hate across the world. They fucking suck. If you mean Wahhabists, then I largely agree. If you mean all Muslims, then answer me this: do you have proof of the beliefs of the majority of Muslims? Where do the majority of Muslims live? And don’t go running to Google before you answer. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/128 "2004-09-22T15:52:20Z")
Ah, **jjimm & yojimbo**. My favorite comedy duo. Yes, I have a cunt. I’m proud of it. As opposed to Ayaan Hirshi Ali, who’s cunt was cut away. She’s black, btw. From [http://www.racematters.org/ayaanhirsiali.htm](http://www.racematters.org/ayaanhirsiali.htm) AMSTERDAM — Ayaan Hirsi Ali had done well in the 10 years since she arrived in the Netherlands as a young refugee from Somalia and, until a few months ago, she lived a quiet life in her adopted land. Never did she intend to create a national commotion. She studied Dutch, took on cleaning jobs, went to university and worked as a political scientist. She made a name for herself pressing for the emancipation of Muslim women and documenting how thousands, living even here, were subjected to beatings, incest and emotional and sexual abuse. To the surprise of many, she became a leading voice condemning the government’s support for multiculturalism, programs costing millions of dollars a year that she considers misplaced because they help keep Muslim women isolated from Dutch society. Then Ms. Hirsi Ali, 32, began receiving hate mail, anonymous messages calling her a traitor to Islam and a slut. On several Web sites, other Muslims said she deserved to be knifed and shot. Explicit death threats by telephone soon followed. The police told her to change homes and the mayor of Amsterdam sent bodyguards. She tried living in hiding. Finally, last month, she became a refugee again, fleeing the Netherlands. See the name of that website? ‘Racematters’. Little nonenties with equal little pricks and brains ought to read a bit further than what’s put in front of their noses and what’s oooh, soooo, exciting to fantasize about. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/129 "2004-09-22T15:57:40Z")
> [@gum](#): > > Ah, **jjimm & yojimbo**. My favorite comedy duo. Yes, I have a cunt. I’m proud of it. > > As opposed to Ayaan Hirshi Ali, who’s cunt was cut away. > > She’s black, btw. > > From [Race Matters | News & fighting inequality](http://www.racematters.org/ayaanhirsiali.htm) > > AMSTERDAM — Ayaan Hirsi Ali had done well in the 10 years since she arrived in the Netherlands as a young refugee from Somalia and, until a few months ago, she lived a quiet life in her adopted land. Never did she intend to create a national commotion. > > She studied Dutch, took on cleaning jobs, went to university and worked as a political scientist. She made a name for herself pressing for the emancipation of Muslim women and documenting how thousands, living even here, were subjected to beatings, incest and emotional and sexual abuse. > > To the surprise of many, she became a leading voice condemning the government’s support for multiculturalism, programs costing millions of dollars a year that she considers misplaced because they help keep Muslim women isolated from Dutch society. > > Then Ms. Hirsi Ali, 32, began receiving hate mail, anonymous messages calling her a traitor to Islam and a slut. On several Web sites, other Muslims said she deserved to be knifed and shot. Explicit death threats by telephone soon followed. The police told her to change homes and the mayor of Amsterdam sent bodyguards. She tried living in hiding. Finally, last month, she became a refugee again, fleeing the Netherlands. > > See the name of that website? ‘Racematters’. > > Little nonenties with equal little pricks and brains ought to read a bit further than what’s put in front of their noses and what’s oooh, soooo, exciting to fantasize about. What’s your point? What are you even talking about? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/130 "2004-09-22T16:00:41Z")
I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/131 "2004-09-22T16:19:26Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > I have no idea. **Yojimbo** brought up the Islamophobic cunt accusation. **Gum** responded by presenting an Islamic Islamophobic non-cunt. At least now I know that **Gum** is a woman. Now I like her even more ! ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/132 "2004-09-22T16:20:39Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > **Yojimbo** brought up the Islamophobic cunt accusation. **Gum** responded by presenting an Islamic Islamophobic non-cunt. > > At least now I know that **Gum** is a woman. Now I like her even more ! We’ll need to back up further. Where did all the “black” stuff come from? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/133 "2004-09-22T16:21:54Z")
add me to the list as well. BTW I was talking in general but whether you have a vagina or not doesn’t have anything to do with if you’re a cunt or not, at least in this part of the world. Are you just trying to show Muslims doing nasty things to one another? If that’s it so what? I could post link from now till doomsday about whites Christians being cunts to other white Christians. Condemn the individuals not the whole lot of them. What’s so hard to understand about that? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/134 "2004-09-22T16:31:23Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > Condemn the individuals not the whole lot of them. What’s so hard to understand about that? You’re condemning people who only condemn the group instead of the individual? Talk about irony! :::d&R::: ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/135 "2004-09-22T16:40:53Z")
Yep that’s it. I condemn the group of people who saw off poor bastards heads with a penknife and all people who support such actions. I condemn the group of people who don’t understand that all muslims don’t make up the above group. I condemn all people who use “guesstimate” I could go on but won’t 😉 ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/136 "2004-09-22T16:44:55Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > I condemn all people who use “guesstimate” In Brooklyn it’s “guestamizzle”, but I’m still with you 100% 😛 ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/137 "2004-09-22T16:49:32Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > I condemn the group of people who don’t understand that all muslims don’t make up the above group. And in the case of **Stinkpalm** , even “the majority”. > [@](#): > > I condemn all people who use “guesstimate” Racist! (Or something.) ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/138 "2004-09-22T17:00:39Z")
Great. Another desperate comic act. Little dicks often get off on cruelty stories, huh? Glad you’re having fun. Don’t wank too hard, hear? What I’m talking about: **OP** :Hey, Islamo-fascist freaks - STEP IN HERE Talking as a cunt: I don’t see a difference in slaughtering American hostages, blacks, _or_ women. But that might be talking sense, instead of sensationalism. That’s not hot at all, right? You guys want some nice pics of women beaten to death by their islamic husbands? Will that get you all horny again? [don’t give me crap about other religions. I’m an atheïst, religion stinks from all sides, though I haven’t heard of Catholics beheading someone lately] ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/139 "2004-09-22T17:08:57Z")
Erm about 3 o’clock Or to put it another way. What in the name of all that’s holy are you withering on about? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293/140 "2004-09-22T17:11:02Z")
Firstly, the “cunt” thing is clouding the issue more than it’s clouded anyway. In the UK and Ireland, it’s offensive, but ubiquitous and _way_ less offensive than you appear to be taking it. It’s usually used towards men, not women, so I’m guessing **yojimbo** thought you were a man. **gum** , what is the “black” thing all about? The Sudan situation is ethnic Arabs vs. ethnic Black Africans, _both of whom worship the same branch of Islam_, as **Tamerlane** points out (and I think we can take his word for it). How does that relate to Islam? Please. If you’re saying that Islam is anti-black (are you? I’m having trouble working out what you’re saying), why aren’t the black Muslims attacking themselves? Given that data, surely you can see that Islam is nothing to do with what is a racist and ethnic conflict in Sudan. WHICH I CONDEMN, in case you don’t think I do. It has been compared to the conflict in Rwanda, which was between non-Muslim groups, who did indeed cut each others’ heads off, as well as countless other appalling acts of murder. Why do you blame the religion, not the tribal nature of that society. I am not denying that there are a whole lot of fucked up things going on in the Islamic world. I agree. But you are ranting to the point of incomprehensibility. > [@gum](#): > > You guys want some nice pics of women beaten to death by their islamic husbands? Will that get you all horny again? This comment is beneath contempt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-islamo-fascist-freaks-step-in-here/265293.md?page=8)