# Hey, it's October SOMEWHERE. Bitchtoberfesterama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 1, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224 "2011-10-01T03:25:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/181 "2011-10-10T00:49:10Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Share the company name, please? 'Cause I have a Tungsten C, too, and I want to play the games on it again.

It’s called Aceeca. This is a link to the page with the [driver download](http://www.aceeca.com/downloads/download_overview.php/cPath/1/downloads_id/13). You also need [Palm Desktop 6.2.2](http://kb.hpwebos.com/wps/portal/kb2/common/article/32859_en.html).

You have to be an administrator to do this!  
[ol][li]Install Palm Desktop 6.2.2[/li][li]Unzip the Aceeca drivers into a directory[/li][li]Connect your cradle to a USB port[/li][li]Put the Tungsten in the cradle.[/li][li]Open the computer’s Device Manager.[/li][li]Start Palm Desktop. It should tell you it can’t find the device driver. [/li][li]On the Device Manager, find the little yellow triangle for the not found device [NB: If you don’t see the device not found, try pressing the HotSync button. Sometimes the sync operation fails before you can get things open and installed.][/li][li]Right-click on it[/li][li]Select Update Driver Software[/li][li]Select Browse my computer for driver software[/li][li]Navigate to the directory you unzipped the Aceeca drivers to[/li][li]Click Next[/li][li]Click Install[/li][/ol]You should get a success message. Aceeca has a troubleshooting guide with pretty much these directions. It just doesn’t mention needing Desktop 6.2.2.

It’s nice to have things working. Too bad Project Ackeron was never ported to the higher PalmOS, I liked that game. It was pretty complex for something that small. Ah, well.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/182 "2011-10-10T01:53:43Z")

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Hey there belligerent street person! No need to get all upset because I didn’t move fast enough for you on the light rail boarding platform. But–just a head’s up–the next time you pursue me to rant about what a punk I am…well, there might be some law enforcement involvement, and I don’t think it will go well for you.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/183 "2011-10-10T03:55:12Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> It’s called Aceeca. This is a link to the page with the [driver download](http://www.aceeca.com/downloads/download_overview.php/cPath/1/downloads_id/13). You also need [Palm Desktop 6.2.2](http://kb.hpwebos.com/wps/portal/kb2/common/article/32859_en.html).

Correction to this. According to Aceeca’s site, [the older Palm 4.1.4 Desktop works better with the driver than the Windows Vista 6.2.2](http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/10119/aceeca-releases-64bit-palm-os-hotsync-drivers/).

As I’m discovering, because none of the Palm programs backed up whereas the non-Palm programs did. Which is to say, SplashID, which is my password manager, backed up Just Fine, but the calendar, contacts, etc., did not. So we’ll see what we can do about that but it’ll have to wait until tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/184 "2011-10-10T04:30:09Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I’ve got an old Kyocera through Virgin Mobile, on a plan they don’t even offer anymore. $15 every 3 months, and I’ve built up a credit balance over $250. Shows how much I use it.
> 
> I’ve never even sent or received a text message. I’ve never seen the point, which sort of worries me when I see how many people are busy punching buttons for hours every day.
> 
> I guess I’m a little concerned that I’m getting like the people who stuck to hand looms when the rest of the world moved to powered looms. Sure, it works, but is it as efficient? It certainly isn’t as shiny.
> 
> I may be forced to upgrade the phone at some point. The battery keeps falling out. On the other hand, it goes back in and the phone continues to work, so given how often I use it, meh.

Is it an Oyster?

I miss my Oyster…

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/185 "2011-10-10T04:46:05Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> It’s called Aceeca. Desktop 6.2.2.
> 
> .

Thank you, for the step by step instructions, too. 🙂  
You can count me in with the Luddites. My game of the moment is Heretic (yes, DOS.) And I’m thinking of figuring out how to run Zork next.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/186 "2011-10-10T04:55:39Z")

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This is most definitely mini - I’m not all that irritated by it, but it does make me wonder a little every time it happens. When we eat out, the server asks if we’re done with the plate before clearing it - when there isn’t a scrap of food left on it. What else do they think we’re going to do with it - lick the plate clean? I get why they do it (rather than just grabbing the plate and running), but surely there’s a better way to ask.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/187 "2011-10-10T07:20:23Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> …there’s a better way to ask.

“May I (remove your plate)?”

In Navarra they usually ask that, in Madrid they ask “are you done?” Like you, I usually leave my plates absolutely clean, so I find this second version completely stupid. No, honey, I’m about to start biting into the plate, could you bring me the salt shaker?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/188 "2011-10-10T08:22:15Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> “May I (remove your plate)?”
> 
> In Navarra they usually ask that, in Madrid they ask “are you done?” Like you, I usually leave my plates absolutely clean, so I find this second version completely stupid. No, honey, I’m about to start biting into the plate, could you bring me the salt shaker?

My late grandmother once told us of a waiter in a Lisbon restaurant who whisked away a nearly full plate when she put her fork down between bites.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/189 "2011-10-10T12:28:58Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> Adds to the kitty adoration in this thread. He’s darling.
> 
> I have a cold. My eyesockets hurt. The roof of my mouth itches as if someone tickled it with poison ivy. I’ve been sneezing all day. I’m moving like an eighty year old with arthritis. This despite the fact that I’ve eaten over a dozen apples this week and scarfed down at least two gallons of homemade chicken soup.
> 
> Damn you Mother Nature. Can you go demonstrate your sense of humor on someone else? I finally found the Nyquil after I spent over half an hour searching for it.

Benadryl will help with the itchiness. Of course, it always puts me out like a light, too, so I spend less time awake, which means less time that I’m miserable. I use lip balm, the sort for chapped lips, if I’m blowing my nose too often.

> [@Chimera](#):
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> You’re a Luddite?
> 
> Hell, I don’t own a smartphone. Don’t need one, don’t want one. I talk on my job for 8 hours a day. Why the fuck would I want a PHONE that costs me $100 a month or more?

I have a very dumb phone, and I had it lobotomized before I took it home. That is, I had the salesman remove the capability to send and receive texts. The only texts I’ve ever received have been from spammers, so I don’t miss texting at all. My contacts know to send me email, because I generally don’t answer either the landline OR the cell, I just let it go to voicemail.

I want to know how spammers get away with sending texts. My nasty, suspicious mind tends to think that the phone companies WANT those spam texts sent, after all, the consumer pays for them.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/190 "2011-10-10T12:55:01Z")

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Well, that was a “nice” weekend. It started out okay, my husband and I were sanding and staining the bookcase we built last weekend. We’re not too good at it, so there are some ugly spots and that makes me a little sad.

My son spent Friday night with his friend, then stayed Saturday too. I guess he’s up to the age where he just wants to be gone all the time. More sad.

Then Sunday I was sick all day, headache and throwing up. I still managed to get up periodically all day long to do all the household laundry. My husband worked on the bookcase alone, and I had wanted to help. We didn’t go to the gym, which he wanted to do.

Nightfall and the weekend’s over, there’s always so much work to be done and we didn’t do it. We had a big fight. I don’t remember what touched it off, but we always fight about the same issue and it’s a serious one. We’re still in barely-speaking mode this morning. Days like this I wonder how much longer we can go on.

It’s rained for three days straight now. The pets are getting hard to deal with.

Do you ever wish you’d just stayed at work?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/191 "2011-10-10T14:29:00Z")

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Then my daughter sends me this email: “I am having the worst day. Wanna just take off work and go hang out at the mall or McDonald’s or something? To me, that would be worth all the birthday gifts in the world.”

Of course, no can do. Then I stupidly read the baby-killing thread. I think I’ll go outdoors and hope for lightning to strike me.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/192 "2011-10-10T16:37:17Z")

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mrAru and I drove up to my Mom’s outside Rochester NY, a distance of some 380 miles from here. Went great until about half way there and we decided to break for a bit of lunch. I can’t do McDonalds, the food gives me the runs - I can’t do canola oil. Did the flatbread chicken salad sandwich from Dunkin Donuts. I then spend an hour each in the next 2 rest areas crapping my brains out. Immodium doesn’t even stop it. Spend the next 18 hours alternating between trying to sleep it off and time in the bathroom.

I still feel like someone pounded the crap out of me. Now I essentially can’t eat at any of the rest areas on road trips, I have to bring my own damned food so I won’t get fed anything I am allergic to or have a dietary sensitivity to. Yay me.

I would love it if it were my gallbaldder, I could have it terminated with extreme prejudice and get on with life.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Violaceous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Miss\_Violaceous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Violaceous)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/193 "2011-10-10T17:16:38Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
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> … and because I keep thinking it can’t get much worse…
> 
> she didn’t show up in the afternoon like I figured she would. I texted and asked if she was okay a few times, then called. No answer. Went to work and kept calling. Into the night, no answer. And the boys were on the phone ALL NIGHT, so I couldn’t get through to them, either.
> 
> Turns out she overdosed this afternoon and is in the ICU. Well shit.

How’s your friend doing today?

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/194 "2011-10-10T18:37:45Z")

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Was wondering the same …

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**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/195 "2011-10-10T19:20:00Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Is it an Oyster?
> 
> I miss my Oyster…

I had an Oyster, loved that phone! I kept it until the battery wouldn’t hold a charge anymore.

Hey Walmart cashier, I know you saw your floor manager grab my cart and steer me to your lane. I also know you heard me say “I have more than 20 items!” I also know you heard the floor manager say “That’s ok, she’s not busy.” I also know your floor manager heard me say to take it up with her if you didn’t like it when I saw you point to the 20 items sign then roll your eyes at me. I was perfectly willing to go to another lane with my 23 items. God, I hate Walmart. I only go there when I absolutely have to, and even that’s too often. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/196 "2011-10-10T20:08:27Z")

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Well well well. It appears that the “I hate women” poster and his threads have disappeared.

Good riddance.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/197 "2011-10-10T20:10:16Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Well well well. It appears that the “I hate women” poster and his threads have disappeared.
> 
> Good riddance.

Why do the threads disappear too?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/198 "2011-10-10T20:15:53Z")

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Looks like it wasn’t just a BANNED, but a DELETED.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/199 "2011-10-10T22:53:03Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> Did the flatbread chicken salad sandwich from Dunkin Donuts. I then spend an hour each in the next 2 rest areas crapping my brains out. Immodium doesn’t even stop it. Spend the next 18 hours alternating between trying to sleep it off and time in the bathroom.

I was served chicken salad at a luncheon once; my body rejected it at about 3 that afternoon. It was sadly recognizable, and was such a memorable experience that I haven’t touched chicken salad since.

My rant: my Linksys wireless router is crapping out on me. I wanted to use my birthday Best Buy gift card for something _fun_, dammit!!! :mad:

Oh, and one of the crapware apps that came preinstalled on my phone has inexplicably started acting up. Removing the crapware involves rooting the phone…I’m too scared to do that. ☹

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-its-october-somewhere-bitchtoberfesterama/598224/200 "2011-10-10T23:08:41Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Correction to this. According to Aceeca’s site, [the older Palm 4.1.4 Desktop works better with the driver than the Windows Vista 6.2.2](http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/10119/aceeca-releases-64bit-palm-os-hotsync-drivers/).
> 
> As I’m discovering, because none of the Palm programs backed up whereas the non-Palm programs did. Which is to say, SplashID, which is my password manager, backed up Just Fine, but the calendar, contacts, etc., did not. So we’ll see what we can do about that but it’ll have to wait until tomorrow.

And an update to the update (if anyone cares). What is actually working is Desktop 6.2.2, Aceeca’s hotsync driver, and a little utility called PalmHotSyncSetup from Pimlico Software to fix the problems with the contacts list, etc., not syncing up.

My only remaining gripes are that I \*\*must \*\*be signed in to my administrator account to not only HotSync, but to use the Palm Desktop _at all_. See, I’ve only recently adopted using the admin/restricted user accounts habit (fresh, with this laptop!), and I haven’t entirely figured out how to fix it so things installed on the admin account are available on the limited account. And that’s assuming that the Palm Desktop stuff would work on the limited account, which I’m not so sure of.

Having to log out of one and into the other to do the backup is a minor irritation. The \*real \*PITA, though, is that HotSync starts automatically for both accounts and it’s not finding stuff in the limited account and then it BITCHES about it. And I can’t even start Palm Desktop in the limited account. \<grumble\>

I’ll probably work out how to fix this at some point, but until I do, I’m going to be peeved everyday when I turn on the laptop and log into the restricted access account.

Pooh.  
Botheration.

Bugger, even.

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