# Hey Jim's Son?  Go fuck yourself

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 9, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355 "2018-08-09T18:14:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/41 "2018-08-11T00:00:31Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And, yes, I’m being condescending as fuck. So are you shitheads. Go fuck yourselves, you colossal twats. We know you’re here to defend a fellow conservative. You’re just not actually any good at it.

Okay, this is the first time I’m having a problem with Avatars.

There is _NO WAY_ the little dog from Monopoly would use this kind of language! 😃

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/42 "2018-08-11T01:15:52Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#):
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> The 1991 Iraq war had a broad global coalition and was well executed both politically and militarily. Of all the wars that have been fought by the U.S. it is among the most justifiable. Protesting it does deserve some criticism.

Does it? She had the right to protest it and you have (indeed, anyone has) the right to criticize her for it, but what does “deserve” have to do with it?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/43 "2018-08-11T01:19:06Z")

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The US worships its military, remember?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/44 "2018-08-11T02:03:33Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> \<snip\> Sadly a large chunk of Americans were on the wrong side of that one.

And still are, which is both sad \*\*and \*\*infuriating.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/45 "2018-08-11T02:08:09Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> The US worships its military, remember?

Could be worse, we could worship some invisible sky fairy or something stupid like that.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/46 "2018-08-11T02:52:43Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Could be worse, we could worship some invisible sky fairy or something stupid like that.

Since it’s Margot Kidder, would Superman count? He’s not in visible, but he flies, and he’s got super powers, so technically you could call him a sky fairy?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/47 "2018-08-11T03:49:40Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Since it’s Margot Kidder, would Superman count? He’s not in visible, but he flies, and he’s got super powers, so technically you could call him a sky fairy?

Only if Jack Larson is with him. 😉

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/48 "2018-08-11T05:36:38Z")

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I like Richard Kiel coming in here.

But Jim’s Dad is the _worst!_

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/49 "2018-08-11T07:42:33Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Better a nutjob than one who [smears someone](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21137129&postcount=34) with a debilitating illness.
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> \*\*  
> (Hint: protesting a war isn’t “smearing the troops”. Fuck you.)

Worthy target, lame pitting. I give it a 3/10. Little to no effort or creativity. Even considering the source of this pitting, it doesn’t raise the score above a 3. This reads like you pounded this out while sitting on a toilet during a quick 5 minute bathroom break while at work.

> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Wow! A pit thread in which you aren’t just showing up for the pile-on. Truly, I have have seen a miracle.

Yeah but just about as much brainpower was expended composing this thread as there is in any of her ubiquitous pile -on or “Me too!” contributions (which in the case of our esteemed Pttsburgh Doper is a substantial chunk of the entire payload).

> [@nightshadea](#):
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> we have a few posters with jim in their names that are weirdos ….boyo jim ….jim nightshade ….I figured he was with one of them ………

This is apropos to nothing but i have to ask you a question about your username. Given the fact that the letter “a” is right next to the letter “s” on the keyboard and the nsme “Nightshades” makes a lot more sense than “Nightshadea”, I’ve always suspected your username to be a typo of Nightshades that you simply never bothered to have corrected. Am i right?

> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> I disagree with this.
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> If someone starts a pit thread where - based on the target, the board makeup (and their extensive familiarity with same), and the issue - they have 100% confidence that the mass of fellow posters will be strongly on their side, then that’s the functional equivalent of “showing up for the pile-on”.
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> When Guinastasia takes a strong stand on something where she’s going against board sentiment - or where she’s even risking going against board sentiment - then you’ve seen something. Until then, nothing.

Holy shit is this the truth. There is not a more vapid, non-contributing established member here at the Dope. SDMB has this reputation of being populated by the best and brightest minds out there. Fighting Ignorance is their trademark phrase after all. But that’s only a fraction of the full picture. It also attracts those who wish to hitch their wagons to this bastion of rationality intelligence, in order to be part of what they perceive as the smartypants in-group. They hope to be seen as “intelligent by association”. Guin is the fucking poster child for this type of Doper. And to ward off the predictable derision, no, i don’t consider myself one of either type of Doper. I came here under fairly unique circumstances and i just was looking for honest feedback from strangers re a very distressful personal experience i had recently gone thru. (I had a very rocky, tumultuous beginning here at the Dope and no one, including me, thought i would last long)

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Like, “[bFav-P\*\* and **Scumpup** are a couple of stand-up guys with a lot of interesting things to say,” or is absurdism excluded from our framework?

Hey, just because they’re assholes doesnt mean they are incapable of bring right here. And both of these assholes contribute substantively to this messageboard. We need some contrarian energy sround here. I mean, do you actually think this board would be a better place if these two posters were replaced with two Guin-type “nothing posters”?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/50 "2018-08-11T07:55:42Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Could be worse, we could worship some invisible sky fairy or something stupid like that.

That wouldn’t be worse. Military worship leads people to excuse or even support some pretty awful things that real people really do. Shrugging off children dying of Cystic Fibrosis because “god has a plan” is one thing, defending the illegal invasion and occupation of countries and the torture of their citizens because how dare you smear Our Troops is another.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/51 "2018-08-11T07:58:05Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> we have a few posters with jim in their names that are weirdos ….boyo jim ….jim nightshade ….I figured he was with one of them ………

I like **Jim Nightshade**. He’s actually a pretty fun Doper and pretty harmless.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/52 "2018-08-11T07:59:47Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Hey, just because they’re assholes doesnt mean they are incapable of bring right here. And both of these assholes contribute substantively to this messageboard. We need some contrarian energy sround here. I mean, do you actually think this board would be a better place if these two posters were replaced with two Guin-type “nothing posters”?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/53 "2018-08-11T08:13:49Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Yes.

Care to expound on this? Tell me what value guin brings to this board. I mran, Jesus, this place is already a shell of it’s former self. It’s a hive mind and u want to remove to of the dissenting voices for a sycophant?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/54 "2018-08-11T15:22:59Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> ,I mean, do you actually think this board would be a better place if these two posters were replaced with two Guin-type “nothing posters”?

Gonna need to mull that over for a couple of years. Get back to you.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/55 "2018-08-11T15:55:33Z")

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Me too!

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/56 "2018-08-11T16:14:07Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Care to expound on this? Tell me what value guin brings to this board. I mran, Jesus, this place is already a shell of it’s former self. It’s a hive mind and u want to remove to of the dissenting voices for a sycophant?

I wouldn’t be able to say I am familiar enough with either of their oeuvres to make any comment about these posters in particular, none are in the number that I have in my head as stand out _impressive_ in either direction, or valuable, but in general I’d prefer the few more dissenting voices as long as they do so without being assholes and do so with honest arguments, preferably intelligent ones that either take some actual thought to respond to or even force me to question what I think I believe … Even the stupid contrarian arguments serve a function if only to stimulate review of what the actual facts are.

The post that this op Pitted? … that reminded me of when a past dog had an infection of his anal scent gland. Just disgusting. Fine if the deceased who had mental illness and had killed herself was the focus of Pit thread but not in that thread’s context. I’ll take mindless me-too pile-on posts over that odoriferous purulent discharge please. For my dog I’d deal with it.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/57 "2018-08-11T16:57:10Z")

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If you people want to take pot shots at me, that’s cool – I have no problems with that whatsoever. But start another goddamned threat about it.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/58 "2018-08-11T18:24:09Z")

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Not taking a pot shot at you, speaking just for myself, and I completely agree with intent of your op, but um, that’s not how Pit threads work. The unavoidable risk that goes along with Pitting someone is the goddamned threat that it may or may not go as one wants it to go.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/59 "2018-08-11T18:41:42Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Not taking a pot shot at you, speaking just for myself, and I completely agree with intent of your op, but um, that’s not how Pit threads work. The unavoidable risk that goes along with Pitting someone is the goddamned threat that it may or may not go as one wants it to go.

I get what you’re saying, and I agree with you there. It’s just that **Jim’s Son** is such a colossal asshole, and what he said seriously fucking pissed me off, so I’d hate to see him not getting the ass-reaming he’s due.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/60 "2018-08-11T19:01:23Z")

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actually it was supposed to be a capital a because nightshade was always taken so I added an A back in the day to get it past the screen name filters I just didn’t capitalize it and didn’t bother to get it fix

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