# Hey Jim's Son? Go fuck yourself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355 "2018-08-09T18:14:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/121 "2018-08-12T08:17:45Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Ain’t it funny that when you insult someone on the internet, it can turn around and bite you in the ass? Hey, that crossed a line. If insults IN THE FUCKING PIT alwats justified bringing a persons real life into the mix, the pit would be non existent. Im willing to take it as hard as i give it, within the boundaries of this messageboard. Give me a fucking break you fucking dickweed. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/122 "2018-08-12T08:29:20Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Hey, that crossed a line. If insults IN THE FUCKING PIT alwats justified bringing a persons real life into the mix, the pit would be non existent. Im willing to take it as hard as i give it, within the boundaries of this messageboard. Give me a fucking break you fucking dickweed. Heh, you’re really not getting it are you? YOU were the one who posted here under your real name, and now you’re pissed that people know who you are IRL?? Try to find ME dickwad. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/123 "2018-08-12T08:29:57Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > **Ambivalid** , I don’t know whether you know or not, but when you change your username ANY quote of yours prior to the change still comes up as your original one. > > There is no anonymity here or anywhere else on the intrawebs, so railing against someone who ‘outed’ you is really fucking stupid and ignorant of the Way Things Are. Mmkay. Right right right. No one violated the damn letter of any rule. This i get. It was the spirit of the.rules here that was broken. Plausible deniability. Sigh. And its such a tiresome smokescreen. Not one motherfucker who has ever pulled such a stunt (in all my years here its happened 3 maybe 4 times) has done so in anything other than an a deliberate attempt to disclose my real name to the world. Im not going to dispute this ridiculousness again. If you believe im wrong or anyone else does, fire away. All id do by further responding to this stupid “oh anyone can use your former username dude” bs would be to just repeat myself. And give me a gigantic break. If there is no anonymity here, why does everyone use anonymous screennames and no one ever reveals their real names on a board wise scale? By and large, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/124 "2018-08-12T08:33:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If you say so. :dubious: If i say so WHAT? I do not even know what this post means. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/125 "2018-08-12T08:40:45Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > And give me a gigantic break. If there is no anonymity here, why does everyone use anonymous screennames and no one ever reveals their real names on a board wise scale? By and large, at least. Funniest shit I’ve read in a LONG time. GO YOU AMBI…😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/126 "2018-08-12T08:42:45Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Heh, you’re really not getting it are you? YOU were the one who posted here under your real name, and now you’re pissed that people know who you are IRL?? > > Try to find ME dickwad. 😃 No, you are not getting it. I dont expect anyone who knows my first username to somehow erase that knowledge from their memories. Ok. I have a problem with that knowledge being disclosed publically without my consent because it is blatantly disingenuous to say that anyone has or would “accidentally” post it not knowing what it was. I dont want or care about finding you. I asked you to disclose your name voluntarily to me here in this thread. If you won’t, why not? You characterized my reaction to my real name being disclosed here as completely inappropriate and that nobody gave one fuck about it other than me and i shouldnt even be concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/127 "2018-08-12T08:48:00Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Funniest shit I’ve read in a LONG time. GO YOU AMBI…😛 Right right. This is the most unsurprising thing I’ve read in a long time. Utterly expected. Im realizing that i have utterly hijacked this thread. Ill stop now. If i see something i absolutely positively must respond to, ill just open a thread of its own. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/128 "2018-08-12T09:32:53Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > No, you are not getting it. I dont expect anyone who knows my first username to somehow erase that knowledge from their memories. Ok. I have a problem with that knowledge being disclosed publically without my consent because it is blatantly disingenuous to say that anyone has or would “accidentally” post it not knowing what it was. I dont want or care about finding you. I asked you to disclose your name voluntarily to me here in this thread. If you won’t, why not? You characterized my reaction to my real name being disclosed here as completely inappropriate and that nobody gave one fuck about it other than me and i shouldnt even be concerned. The reasons people use nicknames here is so as to avoid shit like what you’re going through now. Maybe you shouldn’t have registered your real name here in the first place. You say it’s because it was in a news article anyway, but you could have copied and pasted relevant bits from the article here and redacted your real name from them. If you didn’t have the foresight to register a nickname, that’s your problem. I remember your old user name, but I’ve had the courtesy not to mention it. But, for better or worse, it’s on this site permanently. As **kambuckta** mentioned, if anybody searches your posting history far enough back, your real name will show up in other people’s quotes before you changed it. You can’t complain because it _is_ public knowledge, posted here by yourself, and people are going to use it inadvertently. There’s not always malicious intent behind everything. By the way, your email address is publicly visible. You may want to consider hiding it. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/129 "2018-08-12T11:14:14Z")
I’m going to start by saying that I sympathise with you, **Ambivalid**. But you unveiled yourself, it was your choice. And now, you have made such a big deal out of being reminded of your choice that any reader of this thread has been alerted to this fact. If you want something to go unnoticed, don’t make a fuss. It looks to me as if you made a couple of mistakes in your dealings with digital communications. The digital world never forgets - even if data is deleted at one location, a copy exists elsewhere. And anonymity does not exist. Once you decide to take part in any kind of online communication, it’s only a matter of data accumulation before a threshold is passed that makes you identifiable to professional data gatherers. And their number is growing every day. If you want to delay identification, you need to _ **compartmentalize** _ hardware, software and behaviour. Strictly. All the time. Your browser gives up plenty of information ([here](https://browserleaks.com/) is a bit of its talkativeness revealed), your smartphone too, your tablet, laptop - any common hardware you use, any software in common use unveils you to some degree. Cross-reference some of those sources, and a persona becomes a person. And it’s only a matter of time before a technology to identify prolific communicators is going to be available to everyone. There are companies that are constantly developing software that counters newer technologies to unmask a person\* but such measures only help those who are going to use them all the time. But no technology can hide information that you give up willingly. And, of course, once you use their services, those companies know everything in one neat package. So you have to trust their intentions and their ability to keep your information safe. If you use an internet persona to act in a way you would not like to be known at some point, stop doing what this persona is doing before you pass the threshold needed for identification. Or accept the delayed consequences. * * * - some are even working on scramblers to blur your unique writing style. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/130 "2018-08-12T12:15:39Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Give me a fucking break you fucking dickweed. Why you gotta be dissin cannabis with your insults? I’ve PM’d you some info from **PETM** \*. Look over it and maybe think before you insult. \*People For The Ethical Treatment of Marijuana ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/131 "2018-08-12T12:20:43Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > At least I can understand that one. What the fuck is with “Humpy”? Wasn’t that one of **Clothahump’s** charcoal _sobriquets_? You deserve to burn for that one. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/132 "2018-08-12T12:45:32Z")
> [@wintertime](#): > > I’m going to start by saying that I sympathise with you, **Ambivalid**. > > But … Gotta concur. To me the post referencing the name used upon arrival was more a recognition that you are a known entity/character here. You arrived with a real life story that got people’s attention, and you have stayed contributing in very real ways beyond the initial focus. Searching for the name dropped in this thread on Google does not bring this thread up at least a few pages in and the person who mostly comes up is clearly not you. Oh attaching other details can find you but yeah, it is information about you that you have chosen to share in this pubic space. If anyone from here decided to stalk you in real life it the information is already available. If anyone from real life was looking for dirt on you that drop does not bring up much and the name attached to your username and this board is already out there. I can understand your discomfort, but what was posted is only what is part of this board’s public record already by your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/133 "2018-08-12T13:21:52Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So, how ‘bout that **Jim’s Son** character, eh? > > What a dick, amirite? I think anyone who gets pitted, ever, would probably love the direction this thread has taken. Except maybe Shagnasty, who would find a way to redirect us. ---
**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/134 "2018-08-12T14:07:13Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > The reasons people use nicknames here is so as to avoid shit like what you’re going through now. Maybe you shouldn’t have registered your real name here in the first place. You say it’s because it was in a news article anyway, but you could have copied and pasted relevant bits from the article here and redacted your real name from them. If you didn’t have the foresight to register a nickname, that’s your problem. I remember your old user name, but I’ve had the courtesy not to mention it. But, for better or worse, it’s on this site permanently. As **kambuckta** mentioned, if anybody searches your posting history far enough back, your real name will show up in other people’s quotes before you changed it. You can’t complain because it _is_ public knowledge, posted here by yourself, and people are going to use it inadvertently. There’s not always malicious intent behind everything. > > By the way, your email address is publicly visible. You may want to consider hiding it. 'Nuff said. Just for the record redacting names from newspaper articles is useless. I’ve indulged my curiousity a couple of times by searching on a distinctive sentence fragment from an article and got back to the original. Never done anything with it nor intended to, mostly just checking if it was real/looking for further information. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/135 "2018-08-12T14:51:44Z")
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/136 "2018-08-12T15:07:36Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Right right. This is the most unsurprising thing I’ve read in a long time. Utterly expected. Im realizing that i have utterly hijacked this thread. Ill stop now. If i see something i absolutely positively must respond to, ill just open a thread of its own. Have you ever heard of that Streisand thingy? I didn’t know your previous username, but now I’m not sure I can forget it. If it comes up again, you would be better served sorting it out via pm with the mods. And oh yeah, **Jim’s Son** is a dickhead. The mods have done themselves a disservice letting him get away with so many warnings. The bar has been raised. Or lowered. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/137 "2018-08-12T15:20:14Z")
I dont mind the fact that my real name is on record in the archives easily found on this messageboard… But the only ones who know this are the ones here before i changed my name. Thats why i changed it, so that moving forward, my interactions with new posters would be as anonymous as i could retroactively make it. They wouldnt know my old username. And those who did know that it was my real name t i chose to trust that they would choose to be decent human beings and respect me and my privacy enough to not broadcast this info to the board at large, which contained many newer members who never would have stumbled across this info otherwise. If i believed that any instance of my real name being used was done so innocently, in the same manner it is used when ANYONE ELSE’S former username is disclosed/mentioned, i would not be upset at all. I’d just let them know I didn’t wish to have that name used on the board anymore for personal privacy reasons and not feel anything intentional or malicious was done at all. But that has never happened. Its only been used intentionally as a way to be unkind and mean towards me. I didnt join with any intention of staying and there would have been no way of joining whatsoever if i needed or wanted anonymity going in. Like ive said so many times, i joined expressly to discuss events detailed in an article that used my real name multiple times. The real issue here isnt that im worried about my identity being exposed. Its that someone willfully did it for a as petty of a reason as not liking what i post or the style that post in on a messageboard. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/138 "2018-08-12T15:21:43Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Have you ever heard of that Streisand thingy? I didn’t know your previous username, but now I’m not sure I can forget it… Not the point at all. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/139 "2018-08-12T15:32:48Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That’s nice. But the topic of this thread is whether protesting that war counts “smearing the troops.” It’s not a question of whether or not her protest was right or wrong, but whether she was denigrating the U.S. military because she didn’t agree with one military action. I would hope that you would agree that this is not the case. I would agree that it is _not always_ the case. > [@DavidwithanR](#): > > The OP is ill-judged. > > Because it doesn’t matter if your precious widdle troops got smeared. Any smearing that those child-murdering cocksuckers get is nothing compared to the burning bayonets up the ass that they all deserve. I hope they all die before they come home. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/140 "2018-08-12T15:56:55Z")
Hi **Ambivalid** , I don’t know you. But for future reference it is hard to treat your protest as serious when you quoted the post with your name in it twice and raised a big stink over something that without you raising a big stink, would have passed most of us by. You handled this completely wrong and honestly are pinging me as someone that likes attention. Again, don’t know who you are or why your upset, but you seem to be either so upset that you’re making a terrible mistake and compounding or crying out for attention. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355.md?page=8)