# Hey Jim's Son? Go fuck yourself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355 "2018-08-09T18:14:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/141 "2018-08-12T16:26:18Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Not the point at all. Except really it is. Without the hubbub newer posters would not have necessarily concluded _anything_ about the name dropped in this thread. Could have been some in joke reference akin to “I am Spartacus”, or a past fictional user name … if any thought was given at all. Now any newer poster reading this thread has given it thought and knows that it is your real world name. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/142 "2018-08-12T16:27:40Z")
Ambi’s posts don’t stand out in my mind and I’m too lazy to check to see what kind of poster he is. Regardless, I’m going to disagree pretty damn strongly at those who argue that using his real life name is fair because he once outed himself. People have a right to be forgotten or to be anonymous if they want to be. People have a right to change their minds. Sure, this is the Internet, and this might not have been the wisest choice to make to reveal his real life name or identity. Doesn’t matter. He doesn’t want to be identified NOW, and we should pledge not to. I see that the poster in question apologized, which was the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/143 "2018-08-12T16:37:25Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > … He doesn’t want to be identified NOW, and we should pledge not to. … Yes, going forward. Given an explicit statement that such is desired doing otherwise would be completely assholish. But how was **kaylasdad99** supposed to know that that per se was the reason for the username change in advance of that desire being made? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/144 "2018-08-12T17:06:19Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I dont mind the fact that my real name is on record in the archives easily found on this messageboard… But the only ones who know this are the ones here before i changed my name. Thats why i changed it, so that moving forward, my interactions with new posters would be as anonymous as i could retroactively make it. They wouldnt know my old username. And those who did know that it was my real name t i chose to trust that they would choose to be decent human beings and respect me and my privacy enough to not broadcast this info to the board at large, which contained many newer members who never would have stumbled across this info otherwise. If i believed that any instance of my real name being used was done so innocently, in the same manner it is used when ANYONE ELSE’S former username is disclosed/mentioned, i would not be upset at all. I’d just let them know I didn’t wish to have that name used on the board anymore for personal privacy reasons and not feel anything intentional or malicious was done at all. But that has never happened. Its only been used intentionally as a way to be unkind and mean towards me. I didnt join with any intention of staying and there would have been no way of joining whatsoever if i needed or wanted anonymity going in. Like ive said so many times, i joined expressly to discuss events detailed in an article that used my real name multiple times. The real issue here isnt that im worried about my identity being exposed. Its that someone willfully did it for a as petty of a reason as not liking what i post or the style that post in on a messageboard. Yeah, but as the saying goes, you can’t put toothpaste back in a tube. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Besides, why weren’t you worried about exposing yourself when you first came here? I mean, surely any perceived threat would’ve been the same, if not worse, since you were so hostile to everyone? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/145 "2018-08-12T17:56:22Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I think anyone who gets pitted, ever, would probably love the direction this thread has taken. Except maybe Shagnasty, who would find a way to redirect us. 😛 (methinks **Shags** masochisctically digs the opprobrium) If I can redirect, then, back to **JS** - thanks to that thread title I’m now stuck with the Beatles’ _muh-thuh, hates, Jim’s, sonnnnnn…_ There. (histrionically wiping hands) F.T.T.F.Y. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/146 "2018-08-12T17:56:27Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > To be fair, how many liberal posters have lined up to defend Roman Polanski over the years? I’m not sure what incident you’re referring to, but I definitely saw some bullshit twisting of reality to defend that criminal. :dubious: I’ve never known Polanski to be a cause célèbre among liberals. He is one for certain segments of Hollywood, many of whom happen to be liberal. But not liberals in general. Nor have I noticed that he has _many_ supporters on this board. _Some_, sure - mostly mildly rather than rabidly so. But not a ton and I never noticed a political correlation( other than the one that like Hollywood, most posters on this board just happen to be liberal ). ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/147 "2018-08-12T18:10:15Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I dont mind the fact that my real name is on record in the archives easily found on this messageboard… But the only ones who know this are the ones here before i changed my name. Thats why i changed it, so that moving forward, my interactions with new posters would be as anonymous as i could retroactively make it. They wouldnt know my old username. And those who did know that it was my real name t i chose to trust that they would choose to be decent human beings and respect me and my privacy enough to not broadcast this info to the board at large, which contained many newer members who never would have stumbled across this info otherwise. If i believed that any instance of my real name being used was done so innocently, in the same manner it is used when ANYONE ELSE’S former username is disclosed/mentioned, i would not be upset at all. I’d just let them know I didn’t wish to have that name used on the board anymore for personal privacy reasons and not feel anything intentional or malicious was done at all. But that has never happened. Its only been used intentionally as a way to be unkind and mean towards me. I didnt join with any intention of staying and there would have been no way of joining whatsoever if i needed or wanted anonymity going in. Like ive said so many times, i joined expressly to discuss events detailed in an article that used my real name multiple times. The real issue here isnt that im worried about my identity being exposed. Its that someone willfully did it for a as petty of a reason as not liking what i post or the style that post in on a messageboard. Well, let’s make it clear that they all know who you are, then, so they can accurately judge you. You’re the cunt who killed someone drunk driving, got upset and sued the doctors for not putting back together well enough despite everything ebing your fault, then came here to whinge about people not going far enough out of their way to indulge you self-induced crippled “needs”. It’s abundantly fucking clear from the way you post in this thread that you still see yourself as a fucking victim, when you should be thanking whatever you believe in that you are still alive when you don’t deserve to be. Someone gave others the chance to find that out? Well boo fucking hoo. You’re still the same spoiled, entitled piece of shit that thinks his “need” to do what the fuck you want is more important than someone else’s fucking life. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/148 "2018-08-12T18:48:43Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Well, let’s make it clear … That you are a scumball making stuff up, unless you have some information that proves the story told by the poster in question those years back was a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/149 "2018-08-12T19:16:29Z")
Huh, **Steophan** being a vindictive, shitty, hateful prick again? Must be a day ending in Y. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/150 "2018-08-12T19:36:15Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > :dubious: > > I’ve never known Polanski to be a cause célèbre among liberals. He is one for certain segments of Hollywood, many of whom happen to be liberal. But not liberals in general. Nor have I noticed that he has _many_ supporters on this board. _Some_, sure - mostly mildly rather than rabidly so. But not a ton and I never noticed a political correlation( other than the one that like Hollywood, most posters on this board just happen to be liberal ). Right. The whole “The Left Defends Polanski” meme is a Both Sides Do It canard which gets picked up and repeated by people who don’t really get why it was created and spread to begin with. It’s impossible to realistically conclude that the Left defends rapists as much as the Right, but if you spread a few lies, you can accuse anyone who challenges them of being Partisan And Therefore Wrong\*. \*(Another, deeper fallacy, which tries to make “Fairness” mean “suspecting the innocent just as much as the guilty”.) Because if you can’t make your side look better, the only thing for it is to make the other side look worse. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/151 "2018-08-12T20:31:04Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > That you are a scumball making stuff up, unless you have some information that proves the story told by the poster in question those years back was a lie. That _was_ the story told by the poster. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/152 "2018-08-12T20:45:37Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > That _was_ the story told by the poster. No it was not, you pathetic waste of electrons. I double checked before posting. Under the legal limit, single car accident into a tree, he was the only one seriously injured. And while not legally drunk did recognize that the legal amount in his system might still have played a part and took that responsibility. No, I am not going to link for you. But DO please find the posts that you’ve, at the best spin, hallucinated. I did however provide the link to what was the story told to the mod in my report of your defamation. Vindictive, shitty, hateful, prick? Those are all well and good for you to be in the Pit. Defamation associated with someone’s real world name being used in a thread. That is not. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/153 "2018-08-12T22:52:21Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I despised you when i first joined 7ish years ago. Ooooh did i fucking hate you. Haha. It was a fairly mutual feeling to some extent but i also didnt know enough about the nature of the board and long term members (and vice versa, dammit!) Many members that i clashed with the most early on are members who i respect/get along with the most today (that i cannot say is mutual lol). > > You are one such poster. Not that you’re my favorite or anything but i have a completely different view of you today than i did when i first came here, guns blazin’. I look back and realize you had some fun with me (AT my expense of course). Now that I’ve seen you in action so many times. 🙂 But yeah, you were someone who got under my skin masterfully. You and to a lesser degree Bob Ducca (who is now Grandwino). You guys were the worst. As I recall (and I’m open to correction of course if mistaken) one of your early contributions was a thread about blocking in someone who’d parked in a handicapped spot. I’m sure I gleefully expressed my scorn for such an action (my father used to do petty vindictive crap like that while driving and every single time it was both infuriating and mortifying for me, watching a grown man descend into such immaturity over something so trivial - I shouted _MOVE ON!_ at him on one such occasion as he was about to lean past me to shout out the passenger window at someone who, he thought, had pulled out of a parking space too abruptly, having stopped in the lane of a busy avenue to do so). In light of recent events in Florida which amply demonstrated the conditions under which you can _murder_ someone over a parking-space dispute and get away scot-free, I have no regrets. Anyway, welcome aboard. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/154 "2018-08-13T01:47:45Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > That wouldn’t be worse. Military worship leads people to excuse or even support some pretty awful things that real people really do. Shrugging off children dying of Cystic Fibrosis because “god has a plan” is one thing, defending the illegal invasion and occupation of countries and the torture of their citizens because how dare you smear Our Troops is another. Don’t children die either way? Is that not pretty much equally despicable? And this is coming from someone with a very large contingent of military family members that are combat veterans. Grandfather #1, died a retired Army infantry Colonel, fought in WWII and Korea. Grandfather #2, served in the Army, the Army-Air Force, then the Air Force, veteran of WWII, Korea AND Vietnam. Buried at Arlington with my Grandma. My Dad, retired Army general, West Point grad, two tours in 'Nam, 36 year career. Will be buried at Arlington. His brothers, both retired Air Cavalry Cobra and Apache pilots, both West Point grads, both 'Nam vets, will be buried at Arlington. My mom’s brother Greg, retired Army intelligence colonel, recently died of mesothelioma, 'Nam vet, buried at Arlington. Me, served four years. Both my cousins, either current or former enlistees. Sensing a trend here? And I no longer worship the military in spite of my indoctrination. Sometimes you have to de-program. I learned the hard way. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/155 "2018-08-13T02:47:32Z")
The less people read and respond to Steophan’s posts, the better this forum is. Christ, what a shitty person. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/156 "2018-08-13T03:26:21Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Ok. While technically that may be true not one single motherfucker including kaylasdad doesnt know that i was using my real name as my username. It was in the fucking article that was the op. People who would know this know that by using my old username they were esentially doxximg me. “Plausible deniability” is what a coward would hide behind in order to be malicious but be able to deny it upon confrontation. This is very much the sort of thing you should have considered before you signed up to a message board using your real name. > [@](#): > > Nigga please. [Moderating] And this is very much something that you should not be posting here, at all. Do not do this again. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/157 "2018-08-13T03:28:01Z")
Is **Jim’s Son** one of the aliens from [The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXBo_3LyKT0)? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/158 "2018-08-13T04:20:53Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > The OP is ill-judged. > > Because it doesn’t matter if your precious widdle troops got smeared. Any smearing that those child-murdering cocksuckers get is nothing compared to the burning bayonets up the ass that they all deserve. I hope they all die before they come home. You have some unresolved issues to work out I gather? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/159 "2018-08-13T04:24:10Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Reported. Yeah. These folks are seriously mentally ill and dangerous. They think doxing and attempting to ruin lives in the real world is a legitimate tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355/160 "2018-08-13T04:40:40Z")
That’s so incredibly far off the mark, **octopus** , I am in awe. Might help to read beyond that post. There were no bad intentions and an apology was issued. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-jims-son-go-fuck-yourself/819355.md?page=9)