# Hey June, don't make it bad (but you will) \[Mini-Rant\]

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [June 2, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383 "2021-06-02T01:25:51Z")
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### Author: ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/421 "2021-06-28T18:05:04Z")

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Switzerland’s playing France tonight. The match STARTS at 9pm. At least most people will have their windows closed because it’s raining. Again.

When Italy was winning the other evening we learning how many Italian neighbors we have. A lot.

And because of last week’s walnut-sized hail, both the Roma and the cherry tomato are probably going to die. So no home-grown tomatoes.

Did I mention it’s raining?

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/422 "2021-06-28T18:15:01Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I can only imagine how they feel sitting with us in a bar watching Double Extra Super Overtime, or (in the last Twins game we watched) the 12th inning at 12:30am.

The longest professional baseball game was just shy of 8.5 hours long and went 33 innings.

> **[Longest professional baseball game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_professional_baseball_game)**
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> The Pawtucket Red Sox and the Rochester Red Wings, two teams from the Triple-A International League, played the longest game in professional baseball history. It lasted 33 innings, with 8 hours and 25 minutes of playing time. 32 innings were played April 18–19, 1981, at McCoy Stadium in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, and the final 33rd inning was played June 23, 1981. Pawtucket won the game, 3–2.
> The game commenced on Saturday, April 18, 1981, at 8:25 p.m., after a delay of around 30 minutes due to ...

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### Author: ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/423 "2021-06-28T18:47:37Z")

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Don’t give up! A couple of years back, we had a freak hail storm that took out most of my kitchen garden. I cut everything back and fed them well. The cherry tomatoes came back and produced like crazy for the rest of the season.

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### Author: ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/424 "2021-06-28T19:14:16Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The longest professional baseball game was just shy of 8.5 hours long and went 33 innings.

And there were people in attendance who left in the bottom of the eighth to beat traffic.

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### Author: ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/425 "2021-06-28T20:14:47Z")

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We had considerable vegetable garden mangling due to a hailstorm last year. Everything came back and produced well.

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### Author: ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/426 "2021-06-28T21:00:38Z")

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for learning true insults play this

> **[Buy Oh...Sir! The Insult Simulator | Xbox](https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/ohsir-the-insult-simulator/bq3tmbm7jgqj?activetab=pivot:overviewtab)**
>
> The parrot is back from the dead bringing countless new insults for your disposal, Sir! Remember that silly game that parted lovers, destroyed families and turned friends into enemies? Here’s its console incarnation!

its on everything that plays games …

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### Author: ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/427 "2021-06-28T21:11:07Z")

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Captchas Are Evil.

Yes, I know the reasoning behind them - but the way they are implemented is nearly impossible for a human to figure out, too.

Case in point: A system I use daily for work now requires a captcha. Mind you, this system is web-based, and leads to queries that access personally-identifiable info, so it does need security. But it has recently gone from occasionally requiring a photo captcha, to ALWAYS requiring one. And it’s either a collection of tiny photos (“Click all the pictures that contain bikes!”) or a large photo that is in segments (“Click every section that has a crosswalk!”).

So… “is that a bike? or a shadow?”. “Is that a crosswalk, or a reflection?” etc etc etc etc. And when you click all the individual photos, you find it’s replaced those with additional ones, that you now need to inspect.

Note that these photos are tiny and blurry.

ARGH!!!

Most days, I go through between 2 and 5 sets of photos before I manage to click all the correct ones and none of the wrong ones.

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/428 "2021-06-28T21:57:32Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> Note that these photos are tiny and blurry.

That’s not a captcha. That’s a craptcha.

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### Author: ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/429 "2021-06-28T22:01:01Z")

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As if I didn’t have enough crap to deal with around the house, my wired/networked smoke+CO detectors have been gradually failing. Now the one upstairs is emitting a short but ear-piercing shriek intermittently every few hours. It waits just long enough for me to forget about it, and then … **SHRIEK!!!** They’re about fifteen years old so no surprise. I finally ordered three new ones on Sunday night. The original ones are discontinued so these will require new brackets and a new wiring harness, so another home-maintenance project goes on the list.

I’m too old for this shit. I need someone like George Utley, Bob Newhart’s live-in handyman on _Newhart_, a guy in denim overalls who is always around, with a complete set of screwdrivers in his upper pocket and a hammer dangling from his belt. I note that all that Bob ever does in that show is stand around and banter with the guests and the staff. This is what I should be doing, not getting up on ladders and stuff.

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### Author: ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/430 "2021-06-28T22:12:43Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> Most days, I go through between 2 and 5 sets of photos before I manage to click all the correct ones and none of the wrong ones.

Don’t you just hate it when you fail a Turing test?

I can relate, I have similar issues with captchas I encounter regularly.

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/431 "2021-06-29T02:23:57Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> Captchas Are Evil.
> 
> Yes, I know the reasoning behind them - but the way they are implemented is nearly impossible for a human to figure out, too.
> 
> Case in point: A system I use daily for work now requires a captcha. Mind you, this system is web-based, and leads to queries that access personally-identifiable info, so it does need security. But it has recently gone from occasionally requiring a photo captcha, to ALWAYS requiring one. And it’s either a collection of tiny photos (“Click all the pictures that contain bikes!”) or a large photo that is in segments (“Click every section that has a crosswalk!”).
> 
> So… “is that a bike? or a shadow?”. “Is that a crosswalk, or a reflection?” etc etc etc etc. And when you click all the individual photos, you find it’s replaced those with additional ones, that you now need to inspect.
> 
> Note that these photos are tiny and blurry.
> 
> ARGH!!!
> 
> Most days, I go through between 2 and 5 sets of photos before I manage to click all the correct ones and none of the wrong ones.

[Just think how Mecharella feels.](http://nonadventures.com/2019/02/09/on-the-turing-away/)

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### Author: ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/432 "2021-06-29T04:18:03Z")

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It’s times like yours when I’m so glad to have a husband who’s 6’10".

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### Author: ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/433 "2021-06-29T13:25:01Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> Note that these photos are tiny and blurry.
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> ARGH!!!
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> Most days, I go through between 2 and 5 sets of photos before I manage to click all the correct ones and none of the wrong ones.

You don’t even have to be right, you just have to be as right as other people.

Ever wonder how, if the idea is to keep computers from figuring it out, how does the computer know if you’re right? It compares your answers to the answers other real people give.

Then, your answers are used to improve the labels on both the original set of photos, and AIs that get better at recognizing things in photos. That’s why they have to be so hard, the computers are getting better at these things all the time.

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### Author: ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/434 "2021-06-29T13:53:39Z")

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I’ve heard Google’s also using results from those to help improve AI in self-driving cars. Can’t really say how likely that is to be true 🙂

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### Author: ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/435 "2021-06-29T20:11:18Z")

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It makes sense… but utterly terrifies me when I think of the reliability of such cars!

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### Author: ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/436 "2021-06-29T22:25:13Z")

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The next car I encounter:

_“Oh, it looks like I’m about to hit a pedestrian… but no, Walter Wambolio of Waunakee, Wisconsin tagged that as “Not A Person”, and Geneviève Crudité of Lausanne, Switzerland clicked on it as “A Square With A Bird In It”… so full speed ahead!”_

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### Author: ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/437 "2021-06-30T01:38:51Z")

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BLOODY FUCKING HELL, WINDOWS 11 WON’T LET YOU MOVE THE TASKBAR ANYMORE.

No, I don’t have it yet. I just read up on the changes from 10 to 11 and found that little gem which just _infuriates_ me. I _like_ my taskbar on the right, I find it to be faster. But **NO** , M$ in it’s not-so-infinite wisdom has decided the only place the taskbar can be now is the bottom of the screen.

I hope to hell someone comes up with an app or SOMETHING that will let me move it to where I want it.

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I hope to hell someone comes up with an app or SOMETHING that will let me move it to where I want it.

I guarantee you they will. And it’s not the first time MS has made a dramatic decision that they back away from quickly. They did the same with “Metro” in Windows 8.

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### Author: ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)
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“Live Tiles” are gone, too, as is tablet mode. Neither of those things bother me since I didn’t use them.

But I still yelled at them on Twitter.

More info here:

> **[Windows 11 Specs and System Requirements | Microsoft](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications#primaryR4)**
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> Find an overview of Windows 11 specs and features from Microsoft. Learn about the device specifications, versions and languages available for Windows 11

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### Author: ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-june-dont-make-it-bad-but-you-will-mini-rant/943383/440 "2021-06-30T11:21:22Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> WINDOWS 11

I swear that I remember hearing that with Windows 10 Microsoft was doing putting numbers on their releases (not that that wasn’t stupid, but I’ sure I have an actual memory of that).

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