# Hey KISS fans--got an extra 2K (or 25K or 50K) lying around? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 13, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250 "2017-09-13T17:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/1 "2017-09-13T17:11:37Z")
If you’re a rich KISS/Gene Simmons fan, you might be interested in his latest venture, the [Gene Simmons Vault](http://ultimateclassicrock.com/gene-simmons-vault-box-set/). Gene has been working on this project for years: a 10-CD/150 song collection of his unreleased material NOT AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE! It comes in a personally-delivered vault along with other goodies depending on which package you buy: The $2000 “Vault Experience” where you’ll attend a meet ‘n’ greet event to receive your Vault. The $25,000 “Producer Experience” event, where you’ll hang with Gene in the studio for a listening session. The ultimate $50,000 Vault package…Gene will come to your house for a couple of hours to party with 25 of your friends. Personally, I’m going to pass on these wonderful packages…I’m good with the $5 I spent to join The KISS Army back in 1975. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/2 "2017-09-13T17:23:25Z")
Do any of the vaults come with a stack of the temporary tattoos from _Alive II_? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/3 "2017-09-13T17:24:20Z")
The comments on that site are golden! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/4 "2017-09-13T17:26:01Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Do any of the vaults come with a stack of the temporary tattoos from _Alive II_? I’m pretty sure I still have those. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/5 "2017-09-13T20:30:19Z")
I hope it’s not boorish to say this, but if I’m paying $2K, I would want more than just a KISS. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/6 "2017-09-13T21:17:58Z")
If fifty thousand dollars is too steep for you, you can buy a copy of Peter Criss’s new album for twelve dollars. And he’ll deliver it to your house and hang out afterwards too. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/7 "2017-09-13T21:23:41Z")
I have a friend who will no doubt be buying the 2K package. He spent 5k custom making his Gene Simmons outfit. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/8 "2017-09-13T22:18:54Z")
Why is someone with his net worth willing to shlep places for $50,000? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/9 "2017-09-13T22:36:49Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Why is someone with his net worth willing to shlep places for $50,000? 20 of them would be worth US$1,000,000. He could do one a day and still take the weekends off for a $12M yearly income. Besides, he knows that only crazy people would want his outtakes and stuff anyway, so why not see if any of them are rich crazy people? :dubious:[/shrug] ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/10 "2017-09-13T22:59:55Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Why is someone with his net worth willing to shlep places for $50,000? I imagine there will be a film crew filming the party event. Which will eventually be sold to whichever media source wants it. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/11 "2017-09-13T23:20:11Z")
Simmons is so overrated by some. He’s just a passingly fair bass player, a terrible singer and a not so nice person. KISS was never about musical talent, they were about the spectacle (and their live shows ARE good) but they were all fair to slightly above average players, with Frehley being the best of the bunch. I was a KISS fan twice, in the late 1970’s and then again as a teen in the 1980’s. Simmons is an insufferable narcissist who’s best claim to fame IMO is helping get Van Halen going. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/12 "2017-09-13T23:23:18Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Simmons is so overrated by some. He’s just a passingly fair bass player, a terrible singer and a not so nice person. KISS was never about musical talent, they were about the spectacle (and their live shows ARE good) but they were all fair to slightly above average players, with Frehley being the best of the bunch. > > I was a KISS fan twice, in the late 1970’s and then again as a teen in the 1980’s. Simmons is an insufferable narcissist who’s best claim to fame IMO is helping get Van Halen going. So just the low-end $2k package for you? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/13 "2017-09-14T00:08:02Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If fifty thousand dollars is too steep for you, you can buy a copy of Peter Criss’s new album for twelve dollars. And he’ll deliver it to your house and hang out afterwards too. But you have to feed him, and figure out how to politely get him off your couch after a couple days. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/14 "2017-09-14T01:43:51Z")
I think it would be a hoot if someone got the $50,000 package and invited Terry Gross to the party. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/15 "2017-09-16T00:13:55Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > So just the low-end $2k package for you? Yes please. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/16 "2017-09-21T15:54:51Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Simmons is so overrated by some. He’s just a passingly fair bass player, a terrible singer and a not so nice person. > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I was a KISS fan twice, in the late 1970’s and then again as a teen in the 1980’s. Simmons is an insufferable narcissist who’s best claim to fame IMO is helping get Van Halen going. […and yet:](https://apnews.com/b0a5b046a58a4864a6e406b6219db37e/Kiss-members-Gene-Simmons,-Ace-Frehley-reunite-on-stage) > [@](#): > > The event was a hurricane relief benefit that Simmons helped organize for the Minnesota-based charity Matter.ngo. The nonprofit focuses on feeding and aiding children worldwide, but after Harvey struck Texas in late August the concert’s theme turned to assistance for Houston and surrounding areas. Seems like he really wanted this to be an show that people would pay to see, so he arranged for it to be a unique event: > [@](#): > > Original Kiss members Gene Simmons and Ace Frehley have reunited for their first public appearance since their group was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2014. > > But unlike that terse ceremony, the Star Tribune reports , they came to St. Paul’s CHS field to play Wednesday night in their first show together in 16 years. > [@](#): > > Frehley took the stage about three-fourths of the way into Simmons’ set, then tore into “Cold Gin” and “Shock Me” before the finale “Rock and Roll All Nite.” I gotta admit, I would have enjoyed being present for that. It’s like Rhomann Dey said: “Well, I don’t know if I believe anyone is 100% a dick…” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-kiss-fans-got-an-extra-2k-or-25k-or-50k-lying-around/796250/17 "2017-09-21T16:18:19Z")
The thing about unreleased material, is that it is usually unreleased for a reason. If it was any good it would have made it into one of their albums.