# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/181 "2017-01-09T22:06:07Z")
I wonder how many of the people squawking about actors using acceptance speeches as political forums actually even _watch_ the programs about which they’re bitching. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/182 "2017-01-09T22:09:49Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > So you’re just not pleased with the the fact that people hold opinions. But people are holding the wrong opinions. If their opinion isn’t exactly like mine they are wrong, evil and Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/183 "2017-01-09T22:11:15Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > “taste/etiquette/decorum”? Are these things that only one side needs to respect? Where was the hang wringing from the right over taste, etiquette and decorum during the campaign? Hell over the last 8 years even? Is it just a do as I say but not as I do kind of thing then? Maybe you’re right, and Gandhi was full of shit: > [@Mahatma Gandhi](#): > > Be the change you wish to see in the world. Everyone else is looting? Shit, why should you be honest? Go ahead, everyone else is doing it. Tired of Trump supporters acting like dicks to everyone else? Maybe things will get better for everyone if you lower the bar for good behavior on your side too. That will surely lead to a higher level of discourse in the future. I imagine you’re the kind of guy who ends up on the evening news because your neighbor was a petty asshole and you decided to reciprocate/escalate instead of taking the high road. Because hey, why should you be burdened with remaining civil and reasonable when your neighbor is flinging dog turds over the fence? All of which was kind of beside the point, because in the particular post you quoted I wasn’t arguing in favor of any particular standard of behavior; I was merely pointing out that no one in this discussion had challenged Streep’s _right_ to speak her mind. ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/184 "2017-01-09T22:29:07Z")
I suspect the real fault line is whether you agree with Streep on substance or not. Question for those who don’t just disagree with Streep, but question the appropriateness of her saying it: what if a celeb used their platform to criticize Obama, or talk about radical Islamic terrorism, or the scourge of opioid abuse or manufacturing jobs going away? Is that out of bounds too? ---
**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/185 "2017-01-09T22:41:27Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Duh. Real “acting” is what Trump did in that Home Alone movie and when he took that Stone Cold Stunner at WrestleMania. Definitely better than anything Streep did in Sophie’s Choice or Kramer Vs. Kramer. I thought you were being serious at first. It’s hard to tell these days. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/186 "2017-01-09T22:42:43Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > It’s not really a “spot-on rendition” since he’s the voice actor who created that rendition. Rendition: a performance or interpretation, especially of a dramatic role or piece of music. You seem to think “rendition” means “Imitation”. It does not. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/187 "2017-01-09T22:50:04Z")
> [@Donald\_Rump](#): > > Question for those who don’t just disagree with Streep, but question the appropriateness of her saying it: what if a celeb used their platform to criticize Obama, or talk about radical Islamic terrorism, or the scourge of opioid abuse or manufacturing jobs going away? Is that out of bounds too? IMHO it’s not about the general appropriateness of her saying it - it’s about the appropriateness of her saying it _in that venue._ I do agree entirely with what she said; I just wish she’d have expressed it in a blog, on a talk show, or at a press conference, instead of on an occasion where she was supposed to be offering thanks for the award and perspective on the achievement for which she was being recognized. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/188 "2017-01-09T22:51:24Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > STOP? No, this isn’t Nazi Germany, I will express my opinion and listen to yours. > > I posted a video that seems to say that he mocks everybody like that who is caught off guard, but you go ahead and believe what you want to believe. > > But don’t ever tell me or ANYBODY to stop, Herr Hitler Stop. It’s a saying. Do you need a safe space for awhile? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/189 "2017-01-09T23:07:46Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > IMHO it’s not about the general appropriateness of her saying it - it’s about the appropriateness of her saying it _in that venue._ I do agree entirely with what she said; I just wish she’d have expressed it in a blog, on a talk show, or at a press conference, instead of on an occasion where she was supposed to be offering thanks for the award and perspective on the achievement for which she was being recognized. Seems to me the people who put on the Golden Globe Awards ceremony should be the arbiters of what’s appropriate for that particular venue. Not the people who weren’t even in physical attendance, let alone receiving an award. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/190 "2017-01-09T23:10:18Z")
> [@Donald\_Rump](#): > > I suspect the real fault line is whether you agree with Streep on substance or not. > > Question for those who don’t just disagree with Streep, but question the appropriateness of her saying it: what if a celeb used their platform to criticize Obama, or talk about radical Islamic terrorism, or the scourge of opioid abuse or manufacturing jobs going away? Is that out of bounds too? I think this is really what it’s about. Had the OP posted this is CS or IMHO and simply said “I don’t think it’s appropriate for award recipients to use their acceptance speech time to express their political view” I would have been totally on board. But the fact that he had to throw in an insult about how being an actor somehow invalidates MS’s opinion tells me what the real agenda is. Had her message been pro Trump, pro Right, pro 2nd Amendment, whatever, I suspect he’d be fine with it. It’s pretty transparent so why not be honest from the start? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/191 "2017-01-09T23:10:26Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > No, they can express their opinions, but please find out if he in fact did mock the guy. Apparently, there is a question if he did or not. There’s a youtube video alleging you are a moron. The video fails to show that you are a moron. Apparently, however, there is a question if you are a moron or not. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/192 "2017-01-09T23:21:15Z")
> [@Donald\_Rump](#): > > I suspect the real fault line is whether you agree with Streep on substance or not. > > Question for those who don’t just disagree with Streep, but question the appropriateness of her saying it: what if a celeb used their platform to criticize Obama, or talk about radical Islamic terrorism, or the scourge of opioid abuse or manufacturing jobs going away? Is that out of bounds too? No, though they’d be factually wrong if they were accusing Obama of causing radical Islamic terrorism, the scourge of opioid abuse or manufacturing jobs going away. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/193 "2017-01-09T23:30:52Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > She accused him of mocking the reporter who has a disability, but he uses the same gestures to mock anyone who is caught off guard. > > Watch the video I linked to. Do you \*honestly \*believe this? That’s not snark or baiting, I’m really interested to know how you have come to that conclusion. And if that’s how you feel, are you perfectly fine with the leader of our nation expressing himself that way, apparently on a regular basis? That question goes out to any of our Trump supporters here. If we’re going to talk about it, let’s talk. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/194 "2017-01-09T23:39:20Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Maybe it’s time to name another internet rule like Godwin’s law or Rule 34: it seems like any time a question of taste/etiquette/decorum comes up, eventually someone feels inexplicably compelled to point out that “X has a right to [do whatever they did]!”, even if nobody has suggested otherwise. I believe that’s called “ **Bricker** ’s Law”. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/195 "2017-01-09T23:41:25Z")
Didn’t Street’s speech connect Trump’s anti-immigration stance to how such a thing would affect Hollywood and her profession? She was correct in what she said, how she said it, and where she said it. And the OP is a tool. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/196 "2017-01-09T23:45:09Z")
> [@Donald\_Rump](#): > > Question for those who don’t just disagree with Streep, but question the appropriateness of her saying it: what if a celeb used their platform to criticize Obama :dubious: Surely you remember the conservatives here lining up to rebuke all the nasty things [conservative rocker Ted Nugent said about Obama](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ted-nugent-history-offensive-remarks-article-1.2524961)? Yeah, me neither. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/197 "2017-01-09T23:59:01Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I am not defending Trump on this subject in the least. I don’t want to hear about it at all from an actor. I don’t want to hear Trump’s commentary on the arts either. It’s entirely possible for both of them to be wrong, something neither one of them wants you to be able to accept so that every political issue turns into the kind of tribal shit flinging that we’ve just endured. It’s a particularly dumb approach for the side trying to take the moral high ground since that isn’t going to isn’t going to be based on the production of the most shit flung the furthest. You think Ms Streep’s statement was “shit flinging”? Says a lot about your language skills… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/198 "2017-01-10T00:00:57Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > :dubious: Surely you remember the conservatives here lining up to rebuke all the nasty things [conservative rocker Ted Nugent said about Obama](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ted-nugent-history-offensive-remarks-article-1.2524961)? > > Yeah, me neither. Different circumstances - if Ted Nugent ever gets _near_ an award ceremony, he’s probably waiting tables. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/199 "2017-01-10T00:04:15Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I believe that’s called “ **Bricker** ’s Law”. I believe this law is framed as: “If it’s legal, or if it has a low probability of successful prosecution, then it is perfectly acceptable behavior.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/200 "2017-01-10T00:09:03Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I believe this law is framed as: “If it’s legal, or if it has a low probability of successful prosecution, then it is perfectly acceptable behavior.” The corollary is “Anyone who expresses a contrary opinion and declares the behaviour unacceptable despite the lack of explicit illegality clearly wishes to be a dictator.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=11)