# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/201 "2017-01-10T00:28:44Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Some people are even naive enough to suspect a message-board in any way remotely reflects a broader consensus of the country at large.
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> How’d that work out for ya back in November?

Exactly as well as it worked out for you. Some of us are just smart enough to realize it.

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**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/202 "2017-01-10T00:36:11Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> But people are holding the wrong opinions. If their opinion isn’t exactly like mine they are wrong, evil and Nazis.

I don’t get why you’re here. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you make a single post that contributed to a discussion in any meaningful way. Do you think you’re being funny? Are you even _trying_ to be funny? I’m genuinely baffled.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/203 "2017-01-10T00:42:50Z")

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I’m constantly amazed that some people think that the civil rights, or sometimes even the basic humanity, of entire other groups of people is an “agree to disagree” thing that doesn’t at all reflect on the basic beliefs and values of the people holding those opinions - as if it’s exactly like the debate over term limits or gerrymandering.

News flash: it’s not. And if you do hold the “wrong” opinions, then yes, I’m going to draw certain conclusions about you.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/204 "2017-01-10T04:22:41Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> Nice strawmen. Exactly nobody in this thread has challenged her freedom under the law or under the rules of the Golden Globes award ceremony to say whatever she wants; not one person so far has suggested that she be imprisoned, fined, or banned from future award ceremonies.

You:

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> Ms. Streep, please stick to your PLAY-acting and let the grownups try to do their job.

You didn’t say anywhere in your post that she had a right to say anything she wanted to say.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/205 "2017-01-10T04:28:54Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> You hear about it from lawyers and cops and database analysts and waitresses and warehouse workers and doctors and pilots and Uber drivers and aspiring day traders and nannies and personal trainers and sewage treatment plant managers and whatever the hell else anybody who regularly speaks their mind does for a living. Why are actors required to keep their yaps shut?

Because those are “real Americans” and the right has an inferiority complex over celebrities shaming them in public. If you listen to right wing radio this obsession with Hollywood culture is a reoccurring theme. They’ll say Hollywood celebrities are just entertainers, they don’t know anything. That doesn’t apply to radio hosts, of course. They’re knowledgeable and should be taken seriously.

> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> By the way, what do you do for a living that anyone should care what you think about anything?

This sauce isn’t for the gander. Tell one of these people, “you’re just a middle manager, nothing more,” they’d be pissed. That would be elitism. Satisfyingly capitalist, though.

> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> Jesus H. Shitballs, _why is that better?_ So rather than specifically imitating this specific disabled person, his default method of mocking people is to do a generic imitation of a disabled person? And that makes it _better_?

This was Ann Coulter’s defense, that Trump was merely doing “a standard retard.”

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/206 "2017-01-10T04:51:06Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> STOP? No, this isn’t Nazi Germany, I will express my opinion and listen to yours.

Not yet. But thanks to that Blustering Sack of Shit Cheeto-Elect, it may come fucking close quite soon. And it would be just hilarious if it weren’t so fucking tragic.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/207 "2017-01-10T05:11:28Z")

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I watched her speech a few times tonight. It was quite civil and moving. don didn’t appear in the remarks. (Maybe that’s why he was mad.) And it addressed his mocking of the disabled person only and not a lot else. How could a reasonable person find fault with this?

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/208 "2017-01-10T06:04:14Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> I watched her speech a few times tonight. It was quite civil and moving. don didn’t appear in the remarks. (Maybe that’s why he was mad.) And it addressed his mocking of the disabled person only and not a lot else. How could a reasonable person find fault with this?

I’m not sure any reasonable people have, thus far.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/209 "2017-01-10T06:59:43Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> I watched her speech a few times tonight. It was quite civil and moving. don didn’t appear in the remarks. (Maybe that’s why he was mad.) And it addressed his mocking of the disabled person only and not a lot else. How could a reasonable person find fault with this?

They can’t.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/210 "2017-01-10T07:21:21Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> I watched her speech a few times tonight. It was quite civil and moving. don didn’t appear in the remarks. (Maybe that’s why he was mad.) And it addressed his mocking of the disabled person only and not a lot else. How could a reasonable person find fault with this?

Well, in the spirit of “what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander”, this sure has pissed a lot of conservatives off. Clearly, this means we are doing the right thing. Right? :rolleyes: Also, someone remind me, who were the thin-skinned pansies again?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/211 "2017-01-10T07:25:09Z")

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“Play-actor”? Excuse you, she’s a movie actress!

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/212 "2017-01-10T07:54:14Z")

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No one reasonable can disagree with it.

The thing about Trump attacking the disabled journalist is that he stupidly made it about him attacking the guy for his disabilities rather than anything he was actually saying. Trump has a pathological need to go for the easy attack rather than discuss the substance, possibly because he lacks the intelligence to do so.

And so he chose to bring the discussion down to that level. If he doesn’t want to be criticised for attacking a disabled man for being disabled, maybe he shouldn’t have done just that.

But the most curious thing is that, according to some, Trump attacking a person for his disabilities while running for President at a political rally is apparently not worth commenting on, yet an actress criticising this behaviour on an awards show is highly inappropriate.

The OP is a reprehensible degenerate whose priorities are so fucked that I don’t know where to begin.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/213 "2017-01-10T08:04:08Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> But the most curious thing is that, according to some, Trump attacking a person for his disabilities while running for President at a political rally is apparently not worth commenting on,

No one said that.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/214 "2017-01-10T08:18:09Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> No one said that.

It’s by omission. Frankly, when the guy who is going to be President in just over a week can get elected despite repeatedly attacking others in the most crass and superficial way possible, talk of what’s appropriate has gone out the window.

I mean, let’s look at what led Streep to make that speech before we start worrying about the speech itself.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/215 "2017-01-10T08:40:00Z")

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True story:

When I went to see _The Imitation Game_ last year, a fire alarm was sounded because there was a fire in the cinema.

When I go to the movies, I don’t want to be bothered by loud, intrusive noises in the cinema–it ruins the experience. I guess I should have complained about the fire alarm.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/216 "2017-01-10T09:12:05Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> STOP? No, this isn’t Nazi Germany

[But this is!](http://imgur.com/gallery/5zeIvvP)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/217 "2017-01-10T10:02:23Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “Wahh, Meryl Streep was mean to my hero and Dear Leader Trump! She’s a terrible actress and a poopyhead!” - dumbass **koufax**

Let’s be fair here - he said she was an excellent actress.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> All any of you whiners have to do is state that you’d like to hear celebrities tout the political views you find most offensive at awards ceremonies and that you like to hear politicians telling you what kind of entertainment to enjoy.

We certainly love Trump telling us how _Hamilton_ and Meryl Streep are “overrated”. That one never gets old, for either us or Trump.

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> I think Meryl Streep is the most overrated actress of her generation

I often think that the Streep-hype is overblown…and then I watch her in one of her better roles (say, _The Iron Lady_ rather than dreck like _Death Becomes Her_) and realize that nope, she really is that good .

> [@Neo-Calredic](#):
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> I don’t get why you’re here. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you make a single post that contributed to a discussion in any meaningful way. Do you think you’re being funny? Are you even _trying_ to be funny? I’m genuinely baffled.

**Drunky** ’s drive-bys used to be amusing, but Trump’s election appears to have inspired him to move up from “snarky bystander” to “full-blown asshole”. Which, I believe, has earned him at least one moderator admonishment for threadshitting. I’m hoping he’ll eventually calm down again.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/218 "2017-01-10T12:59:21Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Let’s be fair here - he said she was an excellent actress.

That’s not being fair-that’s believing his bullshit backtracking. In the OP he said she was a “PLAY-actress”, and there is no reasonable way to turn that phrase into a compliment.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/219 "2017-01-10T13:06:24Z")

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What? He was clearly referring to how she was a Tony-nominated stage actress before she became an Oscar-winning movie actress; the alternative is simply unthinkable.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/220 "2017-01-10T14:25:36Z")

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“Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more”

_ **… And this fact was the very theme of Streep’s speech!** _ It was Trump who tried to put “the Hollywood elite” onto some special (elite? un-American?) pedestal.

> [@bobot](#):
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> Did someone hurt Trump’s feelings again? That guy is so \*sensitive. \*I hope he did the Presidential thing, and let her have it on Twitter. Dumbass.

Yes. This very thread, especially OP itself, is a tribute to how thin-skinned the Kindergarten bully Trump is, as are many of the morons who support him.

At least poor intellects can be predictable:

[QUOTE=Columnist Ty Burr]  
Minutes after Streep’s speech, I jokingly tweeted out, “Trump tomorrow: ‘Merrill Strep only good in Death Becomes Her, who remembers her other movies? Overrated!’ ”  
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DJT, a few hours later]  
Meryl Streep, one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood, doesn’t know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes  
[/QUOTE]

And then …

> [@koufax](#):
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> See how you just jumped to a conclusion about me the same way she did about his supposedly mocking a disabled journalist?

Let me see if I have this straight. You think he was NOT mocking the physical disability? Is that obvious to you? What do you think most Trumpists thought?

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