# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/301 "2017-01-11T01:49:58Z")

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[http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/](http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/)

“It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life,” Streep said. “And this instinct, to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.”

But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/302 "2017-01-11T01:54:48Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> [http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/](http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/)
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> “It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life,” Streep said. “And this instinct, to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.”
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> But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

And what does that have to do with Trump? If she doesn’t mention everyone she finds morally objectionable it invalidates what she said about Trump?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/303 "2017-01-11T02:03:42Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

:dubious: While I don’t defend Polanski’s crimes or his colleagues’ support for him, note that his victim [accused the media and courts of causing way more damage to her and her family than anything Polanski has ever done](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski#Sexual_abuse_case), by their publicity-seeking and axe-grinding.  
If you really care about the fate of a rape victim who resents the constant media exposure of her case for selfish polemical purposes, maybe try not dragging her case into a marginally relevant thread for your own selfish polemical purposes.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/304 "2017-01-11T02:07:17Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

Your desperation is indicative. Rest assured, when Trump fucks up, the blame will rest with his voters, not his opponents.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/305 "2017-01-11T02:13:10Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> [http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/](http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/)
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> “It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life,” Streep said. “And this instinct, to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.”
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> But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

Curses!! Well played. There is no answer to the anal rape card. Bravo. Guess I’m going to have to revisit my convictions about everything else in the world.

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**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/306 "2017-01-11T02:19:32Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> [http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/](http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/)
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> “It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life,” Streep said. “And this instinct, to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.”
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> But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

You’re just a bundle of irrational emotion, aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/307 "2017-01-11T02:38:19Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> [http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/](http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/)
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> “It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life,” Streep said. “And this instinct, to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.”
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> But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

I looked through news and found page after page after page of stories about children getting raped and/or mutilated and/or killed just recently, and it disturbs me greatly that you have ignored all of these stories. Not once have you brought up any of these recent atrocities. It’s as if they didn’t faze you.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/308 "2017-01-11T02:47:47Z")

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I can see that the Polanski angle is all over right-wing social media. “But wait, look over there!”

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/309 "2017-01-11T02:52:13Z")

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I watched the fucking video and it’s not the same fucking thing and what the FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BILL CLINTON anyway? Who cares about Bill Clinton? My GOD he was president years ago. What does anything he did or allegedly do have to do with Trump getting butthurt over Streep pointing out that he mocked (AND HE DID, whether he mocked OTHERS in a similar fashion at other times) a disabled reporter?

This is such a stupid thread. Oh my STARS, I regret it every time I slip in to the pit because of stupid shit like this. Republicans love to make cracks about liberals and safe spaces but you all are the most whiny pitiful babies with your terrified “omg they’re stealing our Christmas” and “but they’ll rape the girl babies in the toilets!” bullshit.

I’ve read one page and I can’t stomach any more. Sorry if my comments are redundant but fucking hell this is stupid.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/310 "2017-01-11T03:02:10Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> I watched the fucking video and it’s not the same fucking thing and what the FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BILL CLINTON anyway?

Nothing. The rape reference is an attempt by Trump supporters to argue that Streep has no business criticizing President-elect Trump’s public actions because in 2002 she applauded the award of a “Best Director” Oscar to filmmaker Roman Polanski despite his 1977 conviction on a charge of statutory rape.  
No, it makes no sense, but that’s Trump-supporter “logic” for you.

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**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/311 "2017-01-11T03:27:20Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> [http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/](http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/)
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> “It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life,” Streep said. “And this instinct, to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.”
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> But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her

Pointing out the other side’s hypocrisy is the lowest form of political argument. Streep’s inconsistencies don’t change the fact our incoming president is a mean-spirited, juvenile shithead.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/312 "2017-01-11T03:48:05Z")

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> [@Donald\_Rump](#):
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> Pointing out the other side’s hypocrisy is the lowest form of political argument. Streep’s inconsistencies don’t change the fact our incoming president is a mean-spirited, juvenile shithead.

Further: Polanski wasn’t preparing to be the president of the United States. Here’s a thought: if Trump actually had done something worthwhile, maybe Streep would’ve applauded that. Since T. hasn’t, there’s no way of knowing.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/313 "2017-01-11T03:55:46Z")

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p.s. I’m certainly not defending Polanski. I’m simply explaining that there’s a bit of difference between the artist practicing his art and [del]a conman practicing his[/del] someone becoming president of a country.

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/314 "2017-01-11T04:02:35Z")

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OK, maybe I’m tired and not understanding this. My point was she was upset with Trump ridiculing a disabled reporter, but applauding a man who drugged and raped a 13 year old girl.

I’m serious now, maybe I AM wrong. Why does it bother her so much about Trump acting badly, yet she stands and applauds a child rapist?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/315 "2017-01-11T04:09:42Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> I’m serious now, maybe I AM wrong.

I’m serious, you are.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/316 "2017-01-11T04:34:43Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> OK, maybe I’m tired and not understanding this. My point was she was upset with Trump ridiculing a disabled reporter, but applauding a man who drugged and raped a 13 year old girl.
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> I’m serious now

No, you’re not. But a serious answer would be that just because Streep in 2002 applauded the award of a “Best Director” Oscar to Roman Polanski doesn’t mean that she condoned his committing statutory rape in 1977.

You are dishonestly trying to pretend that Streep’s approval of Polanski’s award in 2002 implies her approval of his crimes in 1977.

However, no matter what Streep may think of Polanski as a filmmaker or as a person, it’s pretty obvious that here in 2017 the behavior of President-elect Trump is a far more current and important issue than the 40-year-old crimes of an elderly director.

Let’s not overlook the far more flagrant hypocrisy of _Trump supporters_, of all people, complaining that **other** people aren’t taking sexual assault incidents seriously enough. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/317 "2017-01-11T05:19:21Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> OK, maybe I’m tired and not understanding this. My point was she was upset with Trump ridiculing a disabled reporter, but applauding a man who drugged and raped a 13 year old girl.
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> I’m serious now, maybe I AM wrong. Why does it bother her so much about Trump acting badly, yet she stands and applauds a child rapist?

Go take a golden shower.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/318 "2017-01-11T05:28:51Z")

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He’ll need volunteers. Maybe if he was on fire…

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/319 "2017-01-11T05:30:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’ll need volunteers. Maybe if he was on fire…

I wouldn’t even if

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/320 "2017-01-11T06:22:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’ll need volunteers. Maybe if he was on fire…

I volunteer!!!

Wait…do you mean I have to _piss_ on him?

n/m

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