# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/321 "2017-01-11T06:50:24Z")
I’m just confused now. So Meryl spoke her mind about some THING at the Globe Awards, Bill Clinton anally raped a 13yr old and Hillary got pissed-on by a Russian ? Yeah? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/322 "2017-01-11T07:04:30Z")
Actually I think Hillary held down the 13 year old, and Obama got pissed on by a Russian while Trump watched and laughed. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/323 "2017-01-11T07:08:31Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Actually I think Hillary held down the 13 year old, and Obama got pissed on by a Russian while Trump watched and laughed. But Bill? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/324 "2017-01-11T07:17:57Z")
…anally raped the 13 year old. Sorry, I thought that was so well factually established that it went without saying. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/325 "2017-01-11T07:29:46Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > …anally raped the 13 year old. Sorry, I thought that was so well factually established that it went without saying. Must have missed that one. Thanks for bringing me up to speed. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/326 "2017-01-11T07:47:35Z")
nm - moved to pit ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/327 "2017-01-11T13:30:11Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > I’m serious now, maybe I AM wrong. Why does it bother her so much about Trump acting badly, yet she stands and applauds a child rapist? You’re to be commended for saying you may be wrong. On Streep: being inconsistent is different from being wrong. Sure, maybe Streep shouldn’t have dignified Polanski, a known child rapist, with kind words. And let’s just stipulate for the sake of discussion that if Hillary Clinton had been the one to mock a disabled reporter and go on to win the presidency, Streep would have let it slide, or wouldn’t have made a big sanctimonious speech about it on TV. So let’s say (for the sake of argument) that Streep is a hypocrite. Well, guess what? She’s still right that Trump’s behavior was reprehensible. People who want instead to focus on the inconsistencies of the messenger are using an ad hominem attack to (fallaciously) dispute her argument, and/or they’re trying to deflect attention away from the subject at hand, which is Trump’s reprehensible conduct. And since we can’t count on Trump supporters ever saying one critical word about their guy, the task of calling him out on his mean-spirited and juvenile bullshit falls on people who didn’t support him in the election. And then when they do so, they get mocked and derided as sore losers and cry babies. Maybe if the people who supported Trump would show a little more capacity for impartiality, these things wouldn’t have to divide so neatly along partisan lines. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/328 "2017-01-11T13:57:47Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > Trump may turn out to be the worst President of all time, but please remember Bill Clinton RAPED Juanita Broderick and Hillary tried to intimidate her into silence, Obama signed into law the Indefinite Detention Act and President Cheney sent us looking for weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. > > Oh, by the way, that horrible sexist Trump had a woman run his Presidential campaign and had a woman in charge of building Trump Tower > > And if you listen to the tape of Trump and his famous “grab them by the pussy” quote he says “they let you” meaning it is consensual as in “groupies”. > > Ms. Streep, please stick to your PLAY-acting and let the grownups try to do their job. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even actresses and if her acting provides her a megaphone to magnify her speech that’s fine, she is no worse than Kim Kardashian or Kanye West, and she is probably at least a bit better. I think you meant to pit all the people who are making a big deal out of her speech as if she were fucking yoda. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/329 "2017-01-11T17:09:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > o.k.-Stupid it is, then. Hahahaha. Get well soon. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/330 "2017-01-11T17:20:15Z")
How’s the painting coming along? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/331 "2017-01-11T17:38:30Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even actresses and if her acting provides her a megaphone to magnify her speech that’s fine, she is no worse than Kim Kardashian or Kanye West, and she is probably at least a bit better. I think you meant to pit all the people who are making a big deal out of her speech as if she were fucking yoda. SHE’S FUCKING YODA?!?!?!? Yoda is a puppet. That’s just sick. Isn’t that why Mickey divorced Minnie? He found out she was fucking Goofy. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/332 "2017-01-11T17:51:42Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > Trump may turn out to be the worst President of all time, but please remember Bill Clinton RAPED Juanita Broderick and Hillary tried to intimidate her into silence, Obama signed into law the Indefinite Detention Act and President Cheney sent us looking for weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. > > Oh, by the way, that horrible sexist Trump had a woman run his Presidential campaign and had a woman in charge of building Trump Tower > > And if you listen to the tape of Trump and his famous “grab them by the pussy” quote he says “they let you” meaning it is consensual as in “groupies”. > > Ms. Streep, please stick to your PLAY-acting and let the grownups try to do their job. Streep’s “performance” was excellent. The other play actors in the room should give her another award. Streep cried on cue, she appeared angry right on cue, her voice quivered at just the right moments. What a great actress. OTOH, I agree with Alfred Hitchcock. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/333 "2017-01-11T18:05:54Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Streep’s “performance” was excellent. The other play actors in the room should give her another award. Streep cried on cue, she appeared angry right on cue, her voice quivered at just the right moments. What a great actress. > > OTOH, I agree with Alfred Hitchcock. Play actors. Do you think you all are being clever with that? ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/334 "2017-01-11T18:07:11Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > [http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/](http://truthfeed.com/flashback-meryl-streep-gave-rapist-roman-polanski-a-standing-ovation-in-2003-oscars/45883/) > > “It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life,” Streep said. “And this instinct, to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.” > > **But I guess a fellow “artist” anally raping a 13 year old doesn’t faze her** Surely I’m not the only one who read this and thought **koufax** was [alluding to Trump](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lawsuit-accusing-trump-raping-girl-13-december-hearing-article-1.2828413), right? Or is the inception-style nightmare that we’re all living in deeper than I thought? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/335 "2017-01-11T18:10:42Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Streep’s “performance” was excellent. Very true. In addition to formulating some intelligent and insightful opinions about Donald Trump, Streep also delivered those opinions in a skillful and persuasive manner during her speech. Not sure why you seem to think that that constitutes a _criticism_ of Streep. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/336 "2017-01-11T18:15:54Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Surely I’m not the only one who read this and thought **koufax** was [alluding to Trump](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lawsuit-accusing-trump-raping-girl-13-december-hearing-article-1.2828413), right? Or is the inception-style nightmare that we’re all living in deeper than I thought? Most Trump supporters seem to imagine that since **they’ve** already forgotten all about the numerous allegations of sexual assault against Trump, everybody else must have forgotten them too. IOW, people dumb enough to forget that their house is glass don’t see any reason not to throw stones. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/337 "2017-01-11T18:26:03Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Actually, [conservatives care quite strongly about transgender bathroom issues](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-poll-americans-divided-over-transgender-bathroom-laws-supreme-court/), with a solid two-thirds of Republicans and conservatives believing that transgender people should use the bathroom assigned to their birth gender rather than the gender that they identify as. > > Why do you think conservative politicians have been stirring the shit with their gender-policing bathroom bills in the first place? Because they know conservative voters will reliably get excited over opportunities to interfere with “weird” other people who are just minding their own business. > > Liberals are the ones who actually “don’t care about transgender bathroom issues”: we tend to think that everyone should just use whatever restroom is appropriate for the gender they identify as, without having anyone scrutinize what’s in their underwear or what’s on their birth certificate. Conservatives are the ones demanding such nosy and intrusive scrutiny. Very well-said. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/338 "2017-01-11T18:32:22Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Play actors. Do you think you all are being clever with that? Play actor/actor/actress, what different does it make? You do know what they do for a living, right? They pretend to be someone other than who they actually are. They are trained to read the words of others. They are trained to emote on cue. They are one part of a stage play/movie/television show/advertising commercial production. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/339 "2017-01-11T18:45:54Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Very true. In addition to formulating some intelligent and insightful opinions about Donald Trump, Streep also delivered those opinions in a skillful and persuasive manner during her speech. > > Not sure why you seem to think that that constitutes a _criticism_ of Streep. Streep’s ability to play act can make people believe many things. Streep didn’t actually have to chose which of her children she should keep with her, and which should go with the Nazis. Streep didn’t actually come back from the dead. Streep didn’t actually screw so many men that she couldn’t remember which one was the father of her child. Those were movie rolls. I don’t put a lot of faith in the words of play actors. They have spent too much time learning to convince others that they are someone other than who they are. Personally, I don’t trust play actors to do anything other than to act in plays, movies, and commercials. YMMV. Streep chose to attack Trump. Trump chose to counter-punch. The Hillary worshippers condemn Trump for defending himself. SSDD. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/340 "2017-01-11T18:49:17Z")
All I can say is I’m sorry Streep’s heart wasn’t kind of broken when she learned of the real life drugging, vaginal and anal rape of a 13-year-old girl. Instead, her heart has been kind of broken over the fate of the rapist. [Here’s a link to some Youtube videos](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=meryl+streep+polanski) in which Meryl (“I’m really sorry he’s in jail”) Streep goes on record defending and declaring her love for Roman Polanski. And [here’s a video of the award show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sdlyO9M77s), [1:19] in which Martin Scorsese, Jack Nicholson (in whose house the rape occurred, btw) and Meryl Streep among many others determinedly and with a zest and conviction aimed squarely at his detractors, applaud Polanski for winning the award. As the clip’s admittedly tightly wound and somewhat annoying narrator nonetheless rightly comments, _“This is Hollywood!”_ Poor Meryl’s heart. I guess in her case art truly does, ahem, trump all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=18)