# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/341 "2017-01-11T18:51:46Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Most Trump supporters seem to imagine that since **they’ve** already forgotten all about the numerous allegations of sexual assault against Trump, everybody else must have forgotten them too. > > IOW, people dumb enough to forget that their house is glass don’t see any reason not to throw stones. Where is the follow up to those numerous allegations of sexual assault? Were those simply fake news stories that were not based on anything other than a Hillary worshippers allegation? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/342 "2017-01-11T18:55:11Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Play actor/actor/actress, what different does it make? You do know what they do for a living, right? They pretend to be someone other than who they actually are. They are trained to read the words of others. They are trained to emote on cue. They are one part of a stage play/movie/television show/advertising commercial production. Truck drivers are trained to drive trucks. Whenever you see one of them on the road, they’re hauling several tons of cargo across state lines, even when they’re driving a Smart Car to the grocery store. Surgeons are trained to do surgeries. Whenever you see one holding a knife, he’s performing an appendectomy, even when he’s cutting some chicken Parmigiana at Olive Garden. \*\* doorhinge\*\* is a imbecilic troll. Whenever you see him post something… okay, this one’s a bad example. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/343 "2017-01-11T18:56:00Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > All I can say is I’m sorry Streep’s heart wasn’t kind of broken when she learned of the real life drugging, vaginal and anal rape of a 13-year-old girl. Instead, her heart has been kind of broken over the fate of the rapist. > > [Here’s a link to some Youtube videos](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=meryl+streep+polanski) in which Meryl (“I’m really sorry he’s in jail”) Streep goes on record defending and declaring her love for Roman Polanski. > > And [here’s a video of the award show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sdlyO9M77s), [1:19] in which Martin Scorsese, Jack Nicholson (in whose house the rape occurred, btw) and Meryl Streep among many others determinedly and with a zest and conviction aimed squarely at his detractors, applaud Polanski for winning the award. As the clip’s admittedly tightly wound and somewhat annoying narrator nonetheless rightly comments, _“This is Hollywood!”_ > > Poor Meryl’s heart. I guess in her case art truly does, ahem, trump all. I’ve heard that Roman Polanski wanted to document his trials and tribulations. It was to be called - _Close Encounters of the Third Grade_. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/344 "2017-01-11T19:05:33Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Play actor/actor/actress, what different does it make? You do know what they do for a living, right? They pretend to be someone other than who they actually are. They are trained to read the words of others. They are trained to emote on cue. They are one part of a stage play/movie/television show/advertising commercial production. You are childish. You throw in ‘play’ in a failed attempt to make her seem so. I know what they do for a living. She is very accomplished and extremely well paid. She is a professional in a difficult profession. Why would her profession make her any less learned in any issue? Its an ad hominem, and in debate, it means you got _nothin’_. You have a problem with she said, talk about _that_. Leave this ‘play actor’ bullshit where it belongs. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/345 "2017-01-11T19:07:38Z")
This is one reason why liberals, especially Hollywood liberals, shouldn’t defend or praise Polanski (the better reason, of course, is that it’s morally wrong). It’s not logical that making a mistake (defending a rapist) invalidates the good things people might say or do, but it is an effective rhetorical distraction technique to point out the hypocrisy. Polanski is a rapist who shouldn’t be defended or praised. Streep’s criticism of Trump was thoughtful and reasonable, for the most part (the attacks on football and MMA were pointless and obnoxious, IMO). Streep shouldn’t have applauded Polanski in the past, especially since it makes it harder to have good points, like the ones she made in her acceptance speech, hit home with those who might be political allies. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/346 "2017-01-11T19:12:20Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Play actor/actor/actress, what different does it make? You do know what they do for a living, right? They pretend to be someone other than who they actually are. They are trained to read the words of others. They are trained to emote on cue. They are one part of a stage play/movie/television show/advertising commercial production. The difference is exactly what it is intended to be; “play actors” is a disparaging way to say actor. A not so subtle way to disrespect the acting profession in general, and Ms. Streep in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/347 "2017-01-11T19:43:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is one reason why liberals, especially Hollywood liberals, shouldn’t defend or praise Polanski (the better reason, of course, is that it’s morally wrong). It’s not logical that making a mistake (defending a rapist) invalidates the good things people might say or do, but it is an effective rhetorical distraction technique to point out the hypocrisy. What it actually shows is that what breaks Meryl’s heart depends largely on the politics involved, and not the suffering or harmful effect it has on the victim as she would have us believe. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/348 "2017-01-11T19:51:10Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s not logical that making a mistake (defending a rapist) Forgetting to bring your lunch to work is a mistake. Defending a child rapist is not. > [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > A not so subtle way to disrespect the acting profession in general, and Ms. Streep in particular. Yeah. Stop disparaging people that defend child rapists. They are ACTORS! They deserve nothing but love and respect from everyone. Especially actors that defend child rapists. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/349 "2017-01-11T19:53:58Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Forgetting to bring your lunch to work is a mistake. Defending a child rapist is not… I think it’s wrong – a mistake in moral judgment. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/350 "2017-01-11T20:24:33Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Where is the follow up to those numerous allegations of sexual assault? Trump appears to have successfully intimidated and threatened the accusers (and in many cases, there’s no action that the victims of assaults that occurred years or decades ago could actually have taken against him anyway). From [this article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/22/trump-threatening-nearly-one-dozen-sexual-assault-accusers-vows-to-sue/?utm_term=.a3e5366e7169): > [@](#): > > Donald Trump vowed to sue the women who have accused him of sexual assault during a speech in Gettysburg, Pa., that was billed as an address about his first 100 days in office but focused initially on a litany of grievances against his accusers and the media. > > Nearly a dozen women have come forward in recent weeks to accuse Trump of groping them against their will, raising serious concerns about Trump’s treatment of women. The women’s accounts, which bear striking similarities, notably match comments Trump made in a 2005 “Access Hollywood,” where he bragged about being able to force himself on women against their will because of his celebrity. […] > > Trump has denied the women’s allegations. Many of the published accounts detailing the women’s accusations have offered witnesses and other evidence in support of the women’s version of events. > > Trump has long had a reputation for using litigation as a weapon to deter criticism. Earlier this month he threatened to sue the New York Times for printing the accounts of two women […] Fortunately for Polanski’s victim in 1977, Polanski didn’t have the wealth, influence or ruthlessness to intimidate her into silence or denial. Trump has a lot more leeway in those areas. [QUOTE=doorhinge] Were those simply fake news stories [/QUOTE] No, it’s highly unlikely that they were fake, even though in most cases there’s no proof other than the unsupported word of the victim that assault occurred. **Likewise, there’s no proof other than the unsupported word of Polanski’s victim that what happened between them was anything other than consensual statutory rape.** (Remember, statutory rape is the only charge that Polanski was actually convicted of.) **Anyone who asserts positively that Polanski non-consensually assaulted his victim based on the victim’s unsubstantiated claim, while refusing to accept that Trump non-consensually assaulted _his_ victims based on _those_ victims’ unsubstantiated claims, is a far more blatant hypocrite than Meryl Streep is.** But as I said, at least it’s nice to see Trump supporters suddenly remembering that sexual assault is a crime that should be taken seriously. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/351 "2017-01-11T20:30:29Z")
How is applauding Roman Polanski’s winning an award for his professional achievements defending his crime? That seems a stretch. Not to mention it is totally irrelevant to the discussion. [QUOTE=doorhinge] . . . I don’t put a lot of faith in the words of play actors. They have spent too much time learning to convince others that they are someone other than who they are. Personally, I don’t trust play actors to do anything other than to act in plays, movies, and commercials. YMMV. [/QUOTE] Are you from the town in _Footloose_ that allowed dancin’? :dubious:😛 ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/352 "2017-01-11T20:43:10Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > How is applauding Roman Polanski’s winning an award for his professional achievements defending his crime? That seems a stretch. Not to mention it is totally irrelevant to the discussion. > > Are you from the town in _Footloose_ that allowed dancin’? :dubious:😛 _outlawed_ :smack: ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/353 "2017-01-11T20:47:11Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I don’t put a lot of faith in the words of play actors. They have spent too much time learning to convince others that they are someone other than who they are. Personally, I don’t trust play actors to do anything other than to act in plays, movies, and commercials. YMMV. Does that also apply to [this play actor](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51C2MV8H8NL.jpg)? To be clear, I’m referring to the less intelligent looking one on the right. Many idiots such as yourself thought that this particular play actor was worthy of being elected President of the US. Despite his [making a complete ass of himself through delusional bloviation](http://image.slidesharecdn.com/amaa90thanniversarypp-150414151023-conversion-gate01/95/american-medical-association-alliances-90th-celebration-61812-20-638.jpg?cb=1429024892). This is, in fact, somewhat like the reality-show moron who was elected president by fellow low-information morons in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/354 "2017-01-11T21:13:01Z")
Great. doorhinge has a new phrase that he can insert into every fucking post. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/355 "2017-01-11T21:18:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > All I can say is I’m sorry Streep’s heart wasn’t kind of broken when she learned of the real life drugging, vaginal and anal rape of a 13-year-old girl. Instead, her heart has been kind of broken over the fate of the rapist. > > [Here’s a link to some Youtube videos](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=meryl+streep+polanski) in which Meryl (“I’m really sorry he’s in jail”) Streep goes on record defending and declaring her love for Roman Polanski. > > And [here’s a video of the award show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sdlyO9M77s), [1:19] in which Martin Scorsese, Jack Nicholson (in whose house the rape occurred, btw) and Meryl Streep among many others determinedly and with a zest and conviction aimed squarely at his detractors, applaud Polanski for winning the award. As the clip’s admittedly tightly wound and somewhat annoying narrator nonetheless rightly comments, _“This is Hollywood!”_ > > Poor Meryl’s heart. I guess in her case art truly does, ahem, trump all. So Starving Artist is now suddenly opposed to child rape? I’ve got a paper towel tube that says he’s a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/356 "2017-01-11T21:28:35Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > Great. doorhinge has a new phrase that he can insert into every fucking post. Something had to replace [Ol’ Hillary’s State Department](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17414363&postcount=678), after all. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/357 "2017-01-11T21:42:44Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > This sort of gleeful shifting of responsibility always strikes me as very weird. _“Ha Ha! You weren’t able to stop us from doing something so stupid that we should have been able to see with half an eye how stupid it was! But we didn’t, so it’s your fault for not stopping us! How pathetic are you, not even being able to restrain us from self-evidently cretinous levels of stupidity? Ha Ha!”_ > I’m not sure these Trump supporters have a very clear idea of whom that joke is actually on. This is the same country where the Senate Majority Leader blamed Obama for not stopping their stupidity after they overrode his veto. Any commentary on the subject or self-reflection for the causes of their injuries is utterly impossible. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/358 "2017-01-11T21:55:24Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I wonder WHERE I got that impression? Your own fucking ass? You know, I don’t remember you being an idiot, an asshole and a fucking Nazi before Trump won the EC. Of course, you’re only one Doper who was revealed as a Nazi asshole by the election, so don’t think you’re special. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/359 "2017-01-11T22:21:21Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I’ve heard that Roman Polanski wanted to document his trials and tribulations. It was to be called - _Close Encounters of the Third Grade_. Who’s the poor child actress who would have been given the career-killing role of playing you? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/360 "2017-01-11T22:55:46Z")
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