# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/21 "2017-01-09T15:42:18Z")

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Trump tweeted that she is “an overrated actor”. Sort of like saying pastrami is an overrated sandwich meat.

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/22 "2017-01-09T15:43:33Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> On the one hand, actors using award ceremonies as pulpits from which to voice political rants do annoy me. We’re not pointing the camera at you because we care how you vote; just say your thank-yous and fuck off. Even if I agree with your point, these speeches make me cringe.
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> OTOH the OP is so stupid I just want to respond: Hey **koufax** - Meryl Streep is one of the most highly respected actors of her generation, one whose name has become virtually synonymous with excellence in her chosen profession of “play-acting” which, I think, qualifies her to be considered a “grown-up”. She has earned her reputation (and a huge amount of money) through sheer hard work and talent. You, conversely, are a nobody whining pathetically on an internet messageboard. I’m sure Ms. Streep will be bothered not a jot by your (or indeed my) views about her speech.

No shit she is a very good PLAY-Actress, I have seen most of her films and always admired her talent.

See how you just jumped to a conclusion about me the same way she did about his supposedly mocking a disabled journalist?

Watch the video I linked to WITH AN OPEN MIND, if you are capable of that.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/23 "2017-01-09T15:44:12Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> Trump may turn out to be the worst President of all time, but please remember Bill Clinton RAPED Juanita Broderick and Hillary tried to intimidate her into silence, Obama signed into law the Indefinite Detention Act and President Cheney sent us looking for weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.
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> Oh, by the way, that horrible sexist Trump had a woman run his Presidential campaign and had a woman in charge of building Trump Tower
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> And if you listen to the tape of Trump and his famous “grab them by the pussy” quote he says “they let you” meaning it is consensual as in “groupies”.
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> Ms. Streep, please stick to your PLAY-acting and let the grownups try to do their job.

Some of those things aren’t substantiated.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/24 "2017-01-09T15:44:35Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> Did you watch the video I linked to?

I did, it was 12 minutes of someone trying to distract us from the fact that Trump lied repeatedly about seeing thousands of people cheering the 9/11 attacks in Jersey.

I can’t say with certainty that he was mocking that reporter’s handicap, but the correct response would have been something along the lines of, “Oh shit, I realize now how that must have looked, I’m sorry about that. It wasn’t my intention.” Instead he lashed at out anyone who came to the perfectly reasonable conclusion that he was mocking the reporter’s disability. That just makes him seem guilty.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/25 "2017-01-09T15:45:58Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> She accused him of mocking the reporter who has a disability, but he uses the same gestures to mock anyone who is caught off guard.

Let me stop you right there. Why is it acceptable to have a man who physically mocks \*anyone \*as our president? Without watching the video, the fact that there are multiple examples of him physically mocking people that we can now compare and contrast? Fucking pathetic. I wouldn’t accept this behavior of my six year old.

The man is a vile human being who shouldn’t be withing 1000 feet of the Oval Office, and so deserves every challenge and mocking he receives over the next four years.

Perhaps he and you would like us to find you and him a safe space? I’m just surprised how delicate Trump and his supporters actually are.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/26 "2017-01-09T15:46:04Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> On the one hand, actors using award ceremonies as pulpits from which to voice political rants do annoy me. We’re not pointing the camera at you because we care how you vote; just say your thank-yous and fuck off. Even if I agree with your point, these speeches make me cringe.
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> OTOH the OP is so stupid I just want to respond: Hey **koufax** - Meryl Streep is one of the most highly respected actors of her generation, one whose name has become virtually synonymous with excellence in her chosen profession of “play-acting” which, I think, qualifies her to be considered a “grown-up”. She has earned her reputation (and a huge amount of money) through sheer hard work and talent. You, conversely, are a nobody whining pathetically on an internet messageboard. I’m sure Ms. Streep will be bothered not a jot by your (or indeed my) views about her speech.

Could not have said it better myself. Agree 100%.

MS is, without question, one of the greatest actors of our time. But that doesn’t mean I want to hear her yapping about politics at an awards show.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/27 "2017-01-09T15:46:24Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> No shit she is a very good PLAY-Actress, I have seen most of her films and always admired her talent.
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> See how you just jumped to a conclusion about me the same way she did about his supposedly mocking a disabled journalist?
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> Watch the video I linked to WITH AN OPEN MIND, if you are capable of that.

It’s funny to talk about “AN OPEN MIND” while linking to a video that talks about the “dishonest liberal media” and other such nonsense.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/28 "2017-01-09T15:47:41Z")

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This is what Trump does. He lashes out at people who call him on his bullshit, and he gets personal. Rather than simply ignoring Meryl Streep, which is what you’d expect a president-elect to do, he said she was “over-rated.” He went personal for no reason, attacking her talent, which absolutely nobody, even you, questions. Is it really a stretch to think that he’d lash out at this reporter in a personal way?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/29 "2017-01-09T15:48:15Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Trump tweeted that she is “an overrated actor”. Sort of like saying pastrami is an overrated sandwich meat.

Well, she has been called a “phony-baloney”. 😃

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/30 "2017-01-09T15:54:13Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> But not always the same story.
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> For example, the only official legal statement Broaddrick made on the subject was to deny Clinton had made any sexual advances. And then she recanted that once Ken Starr gave her immunity from prosecution for perjury, but since she insisted that she hadn’t been coerced into giving her affidavit statement the whole thing got sidelined.

Do some more research on why she recanted.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/31 "2017-01-09T15:55:00Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> Do some more research on why she recanted.

You state things as facts when you couldn’t possibly know whether they’re facts or not.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/32 "2017-01-09T15:55:43Z")

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Not sure how that video is supposed to prove anything or make Trump look \*better \*in any way. A 70 year old man who expresses himself like a 14 year old boy, complete with animatedly mocking people -regardless of who they are- is an embarrassment. Seriously, we should give him a pass because “oh, he mocks \*everyone \*that way” ?:dubious:

As for Ms. Streep’s speech, I would generally prefer thank you speeches be about the business of thanking people but there have always been recipients who have used it as an opportunity to express their views. Also, of all the award ceremonies, I believe the Globes is the one most geared to the attendees (as opposed to the viewing audience). I probably don’t have to tell the OP that the vast majority of people in that room (and possibly the viewing audience) agree with MS.

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/33 "2017-01-09T15:56:54Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> This is what Trump does. He lashes out at people who call him on his bullshit, and he gets personal. Rather than simply ignoring Meryl Streep, which is what you’d expect a president-elect to do, he said she was “over-rated.” He went personal for no reason, attacking her talent, which absolutely nobody, even you, questions. Is it really a stretch to think that he’d lash out at this reporter in a personal way?

WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO. He seems to do it for anyone caught in a lie. If he seems to do it for other people, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/34 "2017-01-09T15:58:05Z")

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It’s going to be a long four years.

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/35 "2017-01-09T15:59:06Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> This is what Trump does. He lashes out at people who call him on his bullshit, and he gets personal. Rather than simply ignoring Meryl Streep, which is what you’d expect a president-elect to do, he said she was “over-rated.” He went personal for no reason, attacking her talent, which absolutely nobody, even you, questions. Is it really a stretch to think that he’d lash out at this reporter in a personal way?

He’s mocking the reporter’s clubbed hand repeatedly. It’s not a stretch, it’s obviously literally what he’s doing.

I mean, am I taking crazy pills here?

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/36 "2017-01-09T16:00:06Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It’s funny to talk about “AN OPEN MIND” while linking to a video that talks about the “dishonest liberal media” and other such nonsense.

Is it? When Matt Lauer asked Hillary a question that wasn’t on the list of questions approved beforehand, all I read was how Matt Lauer was unfair to her and favored Trump, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/37 "2017-01-09T16:00:10Z")

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I’m not going to WATCH THE VIDEO. Trump is a pussy.

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/38 "2017-01-09T16:00:39Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO. He seems to do it for anyone caught in a lie. If he seems to do it for other people, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

No, he does the “mongoloid” voice for other two people. Like any twelve year old would. The hand gesture is obviously a direct reference. I mean, you can see that, can’t you?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/39 "2017-01-09T16:01:43Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> No shit she is a very good PLAY-Actress, I have seen most of her films and always admired her talent.

And yet you belittled her profession and stated that she was not a “grown-up”.

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> See how you just jumped to a conclusion about me the same way she did about his supposedly mocking a disabled journalist?

The only conclusion I jumped to about you was that your OP was stupid, and there’s ample evidence in this thread to support that view, particularly as OPs that essentially consist of “See this video? I agree with it! But you can’t argue with me unless you watch this whole video!” are always weak and suggest that the author is unable to formulate and defend a coherent argument of their own. Which you certainly haven’t done yet.

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> Watch the video I linked to WITH AN OPEN MIND, if you are capable of that.

Says the person doggedly determined to defend a very weak point.

Trump didn’t just “supposedly” mock a disabled journalist; he blatantly did so. But let’s say he was just doing a generic “cowering” gesture. Is it your contention that this puts him in a more favorable light? That being an equal-opportunity asshole is somehow better than mocking a specific person’s disability? Does that make him look more presidential? In short - is this the best defense you can muster?

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/40 "2017-01-09T16:01:43Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO. He seems to do it for anyone caught in a lie. If he seems to do it for other people, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Jesus H. Shitballs, _why is that better?_ So rather than specifically imitating this specific disabled person, his default method of mocking people is to do a generic imitation of a disabled person? And that makes it _better_?

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