# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/401 "2017-01-12T10:23:04Z")
I can’t condemn Roman Polanski until we determine [what kind of rape it was](https://goprapeadvisorychart.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/402 "2017-01-12T10:40:31Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I can’t condemn Roman Polanski until we determine [what kind of rape it was](https://goprapeadvisorychart.com/). According to **Starving Artist** , if Trump had committed it, it would [probably be consensual](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19686530&postcount=21). Because Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt, you see, because he’s such a great guy. :rolleyes: > [@Starving Artist](#): > > Well, first of all we don’t know that he ever actually did that. […] > > But assuming what he said is true, then it sounds like the women he did this to were fine with it. […] Consent is a response to overtures, after all, and while you may not approve of those overtures, it appears the women he’s claiming to have done this to were fine with it. He, like I, grew up in an era where it was expected that men make the passes and women make the call as to whether to accept them. The idea of overt pre-approval never occurred to anyone, male or female. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/403 "2017-01-12T10:45:14Z")
Man, SA cannot catch a break when talking about sexual assault, can he? Maybe if he stopped playing apologist for rapists, then condemning people for playing apologist for rapists. …Hang on, isn’t hypocrisy supposed to be a huge Trump Card of his? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/404 "2017-01-12T11:16:49Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Man, SA cannot catch a break when talking about sexual assault, can he? He’s such a diehard partisan that he simply can’t bring himself to denounce somebody who’s conservative or conservative-friendly, even in the case of really despicable behavior. He’s always got to be trying to handwave it away or minimize its implications. Me, I’m a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, but I have no problem unambiguously denouncing the alleged (not legally proven as of this writing, but highly credibly alleged) sexual assault activities of liberals such as Anthony Weiner or Bill Clinton, or Roman Polanski, as thoroughly despicable. Of course there’s always the **legal** caveat of innocent-until-proven-guilty, but you don’t need a legal conviction to form the **personal** opinion that _“it sounds like this person probably did what they’re accused of and that was really scummy of them”_. But when it comes to accusations of such behavior against conservatives, even thoroughly credible accusations, **Starving Artist** just has to try to put the best face on it that he possibly can. And it’s not just behavior but stated attitudes that he’ll attempt to explain away. [Here he is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807244) trying to justify Rush Limbaugh’s disdain for affirmative-consent policies and his claim that “‘no’ means ‘yes’ if you know how to spot it”: > [@Starving Artist](#): > > My take is that Limbaugh feels that not saying no = consent. Which frankly is pretty much the way it’s always been, at least during my lifetime. The guy tries for what he can get and the girl sets the limits by saying no […] > > I forgot to take into account Limbaugh’s “no means yes” comment. […] My guess, however, would be that in the case where no means yes, no is proclaimed weakly and unconvincingly […] Sex has been taking place this way between silently consenting adults since time immemorial. […] > > It’s hardly the place for modern day SJWs and self-appointed defenders of femininity to decide all of a sudden that women are being raped barring verbal consent and to insist that men always obtain it […] I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, such nonsense is ridiculous […] ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/405 "2017-01-12T13:52:31Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Me, I’m a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, but I have no problem unambiguously denouncing the alleged (not legally proven as of this writing, but highly credibly alleged) sexual assault activities of liberals such as Anthony Weiner or Bill Clinton, or Roman Polanski, as thoroughly despicable. Of course there’s always the **legal** caveat of innocent-until-proven-guilty, but you don’t need a legal conviction to form the **personal** opinion that _“it sounds like this person probably did what they’re accused of and that was really scummy of them”_. Since Meryl Streep is the subject of the thread, could you link to where she unambiguously condemned Roman Polanski (who, by the way, was convicted) or Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner? Or is she such a diehard partisan that she simply can’t bring herself to denounce somebody who’s liberal or liberal-friendly, even in the case of really despicable behavior? And thus worthy of condemnation. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/406 "2017-01-12T13:57:20Z")
You guys really aren’t dealing well with criticism of your new Fuhrer at all. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/407 "2017-01-12T14:08:19Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > You guys really aren’t dealing well with criticism of your new Fuhrer at all. Just getting in our last digs before the servers are wiped. And the camps open. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/408 "2017-01-12T14:42:55Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Since Meryl Streep is the subject of the thread, could you link to where she unambiguously condemned Roman Polanski (who, by the way, was convicted) or Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner? Or is she such a diehard partisan that she simply can’t bring herself to denounce somebody who’s liberal or liberal-friendly, even in the case of really despicable behavior? And thus worthy of condemnation. Has anyone asked her to? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/409 "2017-01-12T14:56:26Z")
The strongest defense of Donald Trump by his supporters is: Hey, look over there! ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/410 "2017-01-12T14:57:52Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Since Meryl Streep is the subject of the thread, could you link to where she unambiguously condemned Roman Polanski (who, by the way, was convicted) or Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner? Or is she such a diehard partisan that she simply can’t bring herself to denounce somebody who’s liberal or liberal-friendly, even in the case of really despicable behavior? And thus worthy of condemnation. > > Regards, > Shodan Why on earth would she be \*required \*to? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/411 "2017-01-12T16:01:38Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Or is she such a diehard partisan that she simply can’t bring herself to denounce somebody who’s liberal or liberal-friendly, even in the case of really despicable behavior? And thus worthy of condemnation. Do you denounce Trump’s despicable behavior? As for Streep, I have no problem with the concept that she might be wrong on Polanski and right on Trump. (Conservatives in particular had better hope that it’s possible that wrongness in one opinion doesn’t automatically cause wrongness in all opinions) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/412 "2017-01-12T16:12:26Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Why on earth would she be \*required \*to? She said bad things about Trump. This elicits attack from Trump property. Same thing happened when Bush owned the property. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/413 "2017-01-12T16:44:04Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Since Meryl Streep is the subject of the thread, could you link to where she unambiguously condemned Roman Polanski (who, by the way, was convicted) or Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner? Or is she such a diehard partisan that she simply can’t bring herself to denounce somebody who’s liberal or liberal-friendly, even in the case of really despicable behavior? And thus worthy of condemnation. > > Regards, > Shodan Are you o.k. with how he treated that handicapped reporter(your opinion about Roman Polanski not really needed to answer this, btw)? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/414 "2017-01-12T16:54:16Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Since Meryl Streep is the subject of the thread, could you link to where she unambiguously condemned Roman Polanski (who, by the way, was convicted) Is Roman Polanski the President Elect of the United States? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/415 "2017-01-12T17:09:59Z")
Again, I’d be willing to bet that most of the tighy-righties bringing get up Roman Polanski in this issue probably never even heard of him before the talking points were distributed. Roman Polanski? That was the Polish Pope, right? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/416 "2017-01-12T18:22:10Z")
How the FUCK did we get on to Roman Polanski??? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/417 "2017-01-12T18:23:39Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Has anyone asked her to? I don’t know. Who asked her to condemn Trump? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/418 "2017-01-12T18:35:18Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t know. Who asked her to condemn Trump? WTF does that mean? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/419 "2017-01-12T18:38:55Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Ravenman is mocking my use of the English language because English is not my first language, I find his beheaviour to be racist.\* > > This is a very easy and inane game to play. > > \*No I don’t, because I’m not an idiot that likes to jump to self-serving conclusions in lieu of actually understanding things. It took you a long time to come up with this rejoinder. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/420 "2017-01-12T18:40:15Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > You guys really aren’t dealing well with criticism of your new Fuhrer at all. sums it up - I looked at the OP and didn’t bother with the rest of the thread. the OP wouldn’t know a grownup if he’d been raised by one [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=22)