# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/421 "2017-01-12T18:42:42Z")
> [@](#): > > WTF does that mean? It means hearing people point out that Trump is a scumbag makes right-wingers sad. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/422 "2017-01-12T18:50:12Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t know. Who asked her to condemn Trump? Who’s permission does she need to give her personal opinion? Do you ask stupid questions like this of those who support Trump? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/423 "2017-01-12T19:00:13Z")
Personally, I’ve found that most actors who are interviewed on current events and politics seem to be very well-informed and articulate. For them to use a moment of time to make a public statement on matters they feel are of grave importance doesn’t seem like a lot for them to ask. She didn’t make a ten minute speech, she said a few sentences that hurt wittle Donnie’s feelings. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/424 "2017-01-12T19:06:20Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Has anyone asked her to? > [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Why on earth would she be \*required \*to? > [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t know. Who asked her to condemn Trump? > > Regards, > Shodan > [@bobot](#): > > The strongest defense of Donald Trump by his supporters is: Hey, look over there! Score 1 for **bobot**. I could go through the thread and find many more, and through the other threads and find even more, but blowouts are so gauche. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/425 "2017-01-12T19:15:19Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Ravenman is mocking my use of the English language because English is not my first language, I find his beheaviour to be racist.\* Ravenman isn’t mocking your use of the English language because you butchered it, or used the incorrect words. He’s mocking the fact that the idea you conveyed made you appear to be a fucking moron, which - in an attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt - he concluded you didn’t understand the words you were using. Or you can go with your special snowflake interpretation, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/426 "2017-01-12T19:16:31Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > It means hearing people point out that Trump is a scumbag makes right-wingers sad. No, actually it means that when you allege to be butt hurt because someone with a disability was insulted while at the same time having a long history of ignoring the feelings of a 13-year-old victim of vaginal and anal rape (twice in one night, btw) by a 43-year-old man in order to praise and support said rapist, it makes your concern appear contrived and phony or exaggerated. In other words, what you’re complaining about couldn’t really be all that bad, given the the things much worse by several orders of magnitude that you hand wave away while continuing to express love and support for the rapist and bemoan the fact that he’d been temporarily jailed during efforts to return him to the U.S. for sentencing. It goes to your credibility and to just how bad and damaging is the behavior you’re condemning really is given that you’ve so easily shown callus disregard for the feelings of the young rape victim. My takeaway is that the disabled reporter likely was much less wounded by what Trump did than was the wounding suffered by the girl Polanski raped, so Streep’s whinging over her wounded heart because of Trump’s behavior is a load of, uh, trumped up bullshit that no one should take seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/427 "2017-01-12T19:21:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, actually it means that when you allege to be butt hurt because someone with a disability was insulted while at the same time having a long history of ignoring the feelings of a 13-year-old victim of vaginal and anal rape (twice in one night, btw) by a 43-year-old man in order to praise and support said rapist, it makes your concern appear contrived and phony or exaggerated. In other words, what you’re complaining about couldn’t really be all that bad, given the the things much worse by several orders of magnitude that you hand wave away while continuing to express love and support for the rapist and bemoan the fact that he’d been temporarily jailed during efforts to return him to the U.S. for sentencing. > > It goes to your credibility and to just how bad and damaging is the behavior you’re condemning really is given that you’ve so easily shown callus disregard for the feelings of the young rape victim. My takeaway is that the disabled reporter likely was much less wounded by what Trump did than was the wounding suffered by the girl Polanski raped, so Streep’s whinging over her wounded heart because of Trump’s behavior is a load of, uh, trumped up bullshit that no one should take seriously. Or in other words… Hey, look over there! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/428 "2017-01-12T19:24:00Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, actually it means that when you allege to be butt hurt because someone with a disability was insulted while at the same time having a long history of ignoring the feelings of a 13-year-old victim of vaginal and anal rape (twice in one night, btw) by a 43-year-old man in order to praise and support said rapist, it makes your concern appear contrived and phony or exaggerated. In other words, what you’re complaining about couldn’t really be all that bad, given the the things much worse by several orders of magnitude that you hand wave away while continuing to express love and support for the rapist and bemoan the fact that he’d been temporarily jailed during efforts to return him to the U.S. for sentencing. > > It goes to your credibility and to just how bad and damaging is the behavior you’re condemning really is given that you’ve so easily shown callus disregard for the feelings of the young rape victim. My takeaway is that the disabled reporter likely was much less wounded by what Trump did than was the wounding suffered by the girl Polanski raped, so Streep’s whinging over her wounded heart because of Trump’s behavior is a load of, uh, trumped up bullshit that no one should take seriously. Would you sudden interest in Polanski have anything to do with your reluctance to answer questions that actually pertain to the event being discussed…like this one: > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are you o.k. with how he treated that handicapped reporter(your opinion about Roman Polanski not really needed to answer this, btw)? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/429 "2017-01-12T19:33:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, actually it means that when you allege to be butt hurt because someone with a disability was insulted while at the same time having a long history of ignoring the feelings of a 13-year-old victim of vaginal and anal rape (twice in one night, btw) by a 43-year-old man in order to praise and support said rapist, it makes your concern appear contrived and phony or exaggerated. In other words, what you’re complaining about couldn’t really be all that bad, given the the things much worse by several orders of magnitude that you hand wave away while continuing to express love and support for the rapist and bemoan the fact that he’d been temporarily jailed during efforts to return him to the U.S. for sentencing. > > It goes to your credibility and to just how bad and damaging is the behavior you’re condemning really is given that you’ve so easily shown callus disregard for the feelings of the young rape victim. My takeaway is that the disabled reporter likely was much less wounded by what Trump did than was the wounding suffered by the girl Polanski raped, so Streep’s whinging over her wounded heart because of Trump’s behavior is a load of, uh, trumped up bullshit that no one should take seriously. Stop talking to me, you torture-supporting piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/430 "2017-01-12T19:41:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Would you sudden interest in Polanski have anything to do with your reluctance to answer questions that actually pertain to the event being discussed…like this one: > > > [@](#): > > > > Are you o.k. with how he treated that handicapped reporter I’m not okay with it, no. But in the overall scheme of things vis-a-vis running the country and dealing with Congress and foreign affairs and political and Supreme Court appointments and formulating legislation I think it’s relatively insignificant and that Streep’s comments were little more than politically-motivated manufactured outrage intended to justify her overall rallying call to oppose Trump at every turn. As was her implication that Trump and his supporters are seeking to kick out all the country’s outsiders and [del]foreigners[/del] (excuse my faux-pas) legal and illegal immigrants (and, I suppose, all their offspring too no matter how many generations old their ‘foreignness’ is). Her speech was manipulative nonsense that anyone with a shred of critical thinking ability would see through immediately, as I suspect many on the left do but because they’re in line with her politically will pretend they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/431 "2017-01-12T19:42:54Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Stop talking to me, you torture-supporting piece of shit. Um, no. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/432 "2017-01-12T20:04:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Her speech was manipulative nonsense that anyone with a shred of critical thinking ability would see through immediately Problem: People capable of critical thinking all think Trump is a worthless lying shitbag. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/433 "2017-01-12T20:32:59Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Problem: People capable of critical thinking all think Trump is a worthless lying shitbag. No, if they really had critical thinking ability and looked at the way Trump has led his life they’d know he’s not remotely racist or sexist or given to violence as a solution to getting his way (I’ll give you that he is a liar, but so’s Hillary and Bill and Barack (You can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan) Obama. So that’s pretty much a wash. Instead they focus on the 1% or less of his companies that have gone bankrupt after years of profitable operation and undone by an overall downturn in New Jersey’s casino business and then claim he makes all his money by ripping off investors by taking his companies bankrupt. The focus on his locker room talk and boorish behavior and call him misogynistic while ignoring the many women he has promoted to powerful executive positions within his companies and entrusted with the construction of many of his projects, including Trump Tower, the building he and his family live and work in. They claim he inherited all his wealth from his daddy while at the same time wholly unable to explain how Trump inherited two multi-billion dollar fortunes from a father who died in 1999 and whose net worth even at the end of his life was only three hundred million. And they focus on and immediately exaggerate virtually everything he says in an effort to make it seem more and worse than it is. And they demonstrate that they wholly lack the ability to look at the facts and arrive at an opinion of Trump as he really is rather than the one bloviating on the campaign trail. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/434 "2017-01-12T20:39:05Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Problem: People capable of critical thinking all think Trump is a worthless lying shitbag. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No …I’ll give you that he is a liar, but so’s Hillary and Bill and Barack (You can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan) Obama. So that’s pretty much a wash. Speaking of lack of critical thinking ability, is it your contention that, say, Obama lies just as much as Trump? Demonstrate the critical thinking that led you to that conclusion, please? Step-by-step. Start with the facts. Show me the reasoning that you use to interpret the facts, and then show how the facts plus the reasoning lead you to the conclusion. Demonstrate your critical thinking abilities for me, please. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/435 "2017-01-12T20:40:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, if they really had critical thinking ability and looked at the way Trump has led his life they’d know he’s not remotely racist or sexist or given to violence as a solution to getting his way . Yes! Not[remotely sexist](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html?_r=0)! > [@](#): > > Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Starving, let’s\* attempt\* to stay in reality. Seriously, you are starting to sound a little 1984 Big Brothery. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/436 "2017-01-12T20:40:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, if they really had critical thinking ability and looked at the way Trump has led his life they’d know he’s not remotely racist or sexist or given to violence as a solution to getting his way (I’ll give you that he is a liar, but so’s Hillary and Bill and Barack (You can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan) Obama. So that’s pretty much a wash. > > Instead they focus on the 1% or less of his companies that have gone bankrupt after years of profitable operation and undone by an overall downturn in New Jersey’s casino business and then claim he makes all his money by ripping off investors by taking his companies bankrupt. > > The focus on his locker room talk and boorish behavior and call him misogynistic while ignoring the many women he has promoted to powerful executive positions within his companies and entrusted with the construction of many of his projects, including Trump Tower, the building he and his family live and work in. > > They claim he inherited all his wealth from his daddy while at the same time wholly unable to explain how Trump inherited two multi-billion dollar fortunes from a father who died in 1999 and whose net worth even at the end of his life was only three hundred million. > > And they focus on and immediately exaggerate virtually everything he says in an effort to make it seem more and worse than it is. > > And they demonstrate that they wholly lack the ability to look at the facts and arrive at an opinion of Trump as he really is rather than the one bloviating on the campaign trail. Maybe this should have been spread out through three or four posts-piling up so much manure in such a confined area tends to kill the plants, rather than fertilize them. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/437 "2017-01-12T20:48:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The focus on his locker room talk and boorish behavior and call him misogynistic while ignoring the many women he has promoted to powerful executive positions within his companies and entrusted with the construction of many of his projects, including Trump Tower, the building he and his family live and work in. Who the fuck are you, Todd Akin? Yes. “Locker room talk”. Bragging about sexual assault in explicit terms is _locker room talk_. Can we abort you? I realize this would be a bit late in the term, but you clearly have the critical thinking skills of a blastocyst. > [@](#): > > And they demonstrate that they wholly lack the ability to look at the facts and arrive at an opinion of Trump as he really is rather than the one bloviating on the campaign trail. But you, you special fucking snowflake, can see into his heart. You can see past the veils he sets up, to see that he only _pretends_ to be an idiotic bigot all the time. Nice. What a lovely line of argumentation. “Never mind what the _president-elect of the United States of America_ actually says, we know his heart!” If someone had offered a bullshit line like that about Clinton in response to her wall street speeches, I somehow doubt you would have taken them seriously. But no, really, you’re just mirroring the party line. [Really](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-trump-heart). ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/438 "2017-01-12T20:48:54Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, if they really had critical thinking ability and looked at the way Trump has led his life they’d know he’s not remotely racist or sexist or given to violence as a solution to getting his way (I’ll give you that he is a liar, but so’s Hillary and Bill and Barack (You can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan) Obama. So that’s pretty much a wash. > **[US election 2016: Trump and his Central Park Five defiance](https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37614095)** > > The weekend's revelations about Donald Trump's sexually aggressive boasts overshadowed comments he made last week about the 1989 Central Park Five case. This deserves more attention. > [@](#): > > “Apparently Mr Trump is unfamiliar with the concept of wrongful conviction,” tweeted documentarian Ken Burns, who made a critically acclaimed film about the bungled investigation and prosecution of the five boys. > > “He should be apologising for calling for their death, not claiming they’re guilty,” tweeted California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom. “This is not ‘law and order’.” > Image copyright Getty Images > Image caption Kevin Richardson, one of the five men wrongfully convicted of raping a woman in Central Park in 1989, speaks after a city settlement in 2014 > > Some, like the Washington Post’s Eugene Robinson, called Mr Trump’s stance blatantly racist. > > “For young African American and Latino men, Trump has a clear and ominous message: You must be guilty of something. Not even scientific proof can convince him otherwise,” Robinson wrote. > > “If that is not racism, the word has no meaning.” > > Mr Trump’s refusal to acknowledge his mistake is even more puzzling given that there is nothing particularly partisan to dig into here. Your point here does miss also Trump’s repeated support of torture. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And they demonstrate that they wholly lack the ability to look at the facts and arrive at an opinion of Trump as he really is rather than the one bloviating on the campaign trail. Trump spews mostly empty words, backed by what were likely blank pages: > **[Donald Trump shows the world folders 'containing his business plan', then...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-press-conference-folders-business-plan-empire-blank-fake-handover-donald-jr-eric-conflict-interests-a7523426.html)** > > The President-elect also packed the press conference with staff members who laughed and applauded throughout > [@](#): > > Donald Trump press conference: Folders ‘containing his business plan’ appear to be blank > > The President-elect also packed the press conference with staff members who laughed and applauded throughout ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/439 "2017-01-12T20:49:56Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Speaking of lack of critical thinking ability, is it your contention that, say, Obama lies just as much as Trump? > > Demonstrate the critical thinking that led you to that conclusion, please? Step-by-step. > > Start with the facts. Show me the reasoning that you use to interpret the facts, and then show how the facts plus the reasoning lead you to the conclusion. Demonstrate your critical thinking abilities for me, please. Let me see if I’ve got this straight. You cook up a contention I haven’t made, behave as though this invention of yours is factually what I’ve said, and then insist that I take you on a step-by-step process explaining just how it that I arrived at this fictitious claim? The reality is that I said yeah, Trump’s a liar and so are your guys. I’m content to let it stand at that. > [@Typo Negative](#): > > Yes! Not remotely sexist! I said he was boorish. Still, I probably should have used the word misogynistic instead. You guys interchange them so regularly that the distinction gets lost. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/440 "2017-01-12T20:54:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’ll give you that he is a liar, but so’s Hillary and Bill and Barack (You can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan) Obama. So that’s pretty much a wash. > [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Speaking of lack of critical thinking ability, is it your contention that, say, Obama lies just as much as Trump? > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Let me see if I’ve got this straight. You cook up a contention I haven’t made, behave as though this invention of yours is factually what I’ve said, and then insist that I take you on a step-by-step process explaining just how it that I arrived at this fictitious claim? Explain this chain of comments please. But also, please clarify: Does Trump lie more than Obama? Yes or no? Does Trump lie more than the average person? Yes or no? Is Trump a liar? Yes or no? Is there anyone you would consider a moral person who lies as much as Trump does, and if so please name that person. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=23)