# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/501 "2017-01-13T17:33:15Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> The video clip was already provided, but if you insist, [video side by side](http://imgur.com/a/OGx0R).

Once again, that’s not at all persuasive as evidence that Trump wasn’t mocking Kovaleski’s physical disability.

Especially when you look at what Trump actually did, including his reference to Kovaleski as _“the poor guy, you gotta see this guy”_ before going into his physical impersonation, and his “spazzy-looking” expression and voice, it’s **entirely** plausible that he was making fun of Kovaleski’s disability.

All that your side-by-side video (with the words removed so you can’t actually hear Trump saying _“the poor guy, you gotta see this guy”_ before drawing his bent right hand up in imitation of Kovaleski) shows is that Trump is not a particularly **good** impersonator of persons with disabilities (or anybody else).

But that doesn’t mean that that’s not what he was trying to do.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/502 "2017-01-13T18:24:58Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> This was in a written speech, so I doubt that Trump came up with it himself, but it was the funniest thing I’ve heard him say. Going from memory:
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> “The media is so unfair. Michele Obama gives a speech, and they all say how great she is. Melania gives the exact same speech…”

That is chuckle-worthy, I must admit.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Old_Time_Hockey)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/503 "2017-01-13T18:36:11Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> This was in a written speech, so I doubt that Trump came up with it himself, but it was the funniest thing I’ve heard him say. Going from memory:
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> “The media is so unfair. Michele Obama gives a speech, and they all say how great she is. Melania gives the exact same speech…”

Yes it’s funny. And he still gets to throw someone under the bus. A win win in his books. Can anyone provide a quote where Trump has ever said anything self deprecating?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/504 "2017-01-13T18:38:51Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> The video clip was already provided, but if you insist, [video side by side](http://imgur.com/a/OGx0R).

I’m not sure a suggestion that starts with “maybe” could be called insistent, but no big deal. Anyway, the audio seems relevant so it shouldn’t be omitted.

Based on the visual alone, though… Trump looks rather buffoonish. I’m not seeing a reason to extend him overly-generous benefits of doubt in light of his follow-up behaviour.

Of course, I’m also not seeing a reason to feel particularly upset or surprised. Trump being a lout and bully is hardly a shocking revelation at this late date and I gather many Americans simply don’t care even if they say they do.

Personally, I’d shrug it off if he turns out to be an exceptional president by objective measure.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/505 "2017-01-13T18:39:10Z")

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> [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](#):
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> Yes it’s funny. And he still gets to throw someone under the bus. A win win in his books. Can anyone provide a quote where Trump has ever said anything self deprecating?

He pretended to not dance well on SNL…because…well…apparently he can’t actually dance…

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/506 "2017-01-13T18:46:00Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> He pretended to not dance well on SNL…because…well…apparently he can’t actually dance…

He also let Jimmy Fallon tug on his hair to prove it’s real. It was almost endearing.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/507 "2017-01-13T19:26:20Z")

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Scalping would’ve been endearing.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/508 "2017-01-13T20:48:02Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Let’s imagine for a moment, stretch that it is, that Trump’s gesture was just his standard method of mocking people. Isn’t that in itself bad enough? What the hell kind of grown man acts like that? Do you really find that acceptable or dignified?

I don’t find Streep’s attack to be acceptable or dignified. Trump defended himself. The Hollyweird-types then had a conniption fit because Trump defended himself from her attack, and they still appear to be embarrassed by their failure to convince enough voters to vote for Hillary. It appears that many people won’t buy a much used politician based on a play actors recommendation. Life goes on.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/509 "2017-01-13T20:52:46Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Hahahaha.
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> Not the first time, either:

(post shortened)

Certainly seems to be a lot of Hillary supporters spinning the news as fast as they can. Didn’t seem to help Hillary get elected. Better luck next time.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/510 "2017-01-13T20:58:08Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> You need a better puppeteer - your “arguments” are becoming old and repetitive.

Perhaps I could borrow yours? What is ol’ Hillary up to these days? Bill seems to have time, and interns, on his hands. Obama is out. Nobody seems to be paying attention to him, anymore.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/511 "2017-01-13T21:02:18Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I don’t find Streep’s attack to be acceptable or dignified. …

That’s because you have got shit for brains.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/512 "2017-01-13T21:04:43Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I mean “not earned” in the sense that you have not earned more than one sentence from me in response per year and this exhausts your 2017 allotment.

Oh No! Does this mean the sun won’t rise tomorrow? That birds won’t sing? That neither Streep, or Hillary, will select the next Supreme Court Justice?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/513 "2017-01-13T21:07:32Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Obama is out. Nobody seems to be paying attention to him, anymore.

Not to worry. Trump is going to be mentioning Obama often, as he’ll need someone to blame for his fuckups over the next few years, before he’s impeached or quits in disgrace.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/514 "2017-01-13T21:24:58Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Not to worry. Trump is going to be mentioning Obama often, as he’ll need someone to blame for his fuckups over the next few years, before he’s impeached or quits in disgrace.

I gather a former president has never sued a sitting president for slander or libel. Might be fun to see this change.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/515 "2017-01-13T21:40:58Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> That’s because you have got shit for brains.

And now you have one for a President.

Man, that must suck.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/516 "2017-01-13T21:50:15Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> He pretended to not dance well on SNL…because…well…apparently he can’t actually dance…

This is why he is the worst President in History.

> [@billfish678](#):
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> And now you have one for a President.
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> Man, that must suck.

Yes, we will have a brains for President.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/517 "2017-01-13T22:32:45Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> He pretended to not dance well on SNL…because…well…apparently he can’t actually dance…

Only one President ever could. 😉

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/518 "2017-01-13T23:20:55Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I don’t find Streep’s attack to be acceptable or dignified.

Must suck having your Donald taken to task.

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Trump defended himself.

Nope - he childishly lashed back at her with his usual moronic polemics. That’s you’re idea of a valid defense? Do us all a favour, **doorhinge** - do not get into law.

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Hollyweird.

Don’t like movies, then?  
Or, wait - it’s that sinful, deviant culture, huh?  
How old are you - 82?

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> [Hollywood]still appears to be embarrassed by their failure to convince enough voters to vote for Hillary.

Project much? You somehow saw embarrassment, then? And it was because they didn’t shill enough for Hillary? :rolleyes:

I think you would be at home more at breitbart, **doorhinge** , and leave some of the more reasoned right-of-centre commenters here. Your repetitive, weak, unconvincing, embarrassing, verging-on-trollery, obtuse, bull-shittery for everyone to see here doesn’t seem to be making much of an impression on you.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/519 "2017-01-14T00:30:43Z")

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> [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](#):
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> Can anyone provide a quote where Trump has ever said anything self deprecating?

From Al Smith dinner:

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> It’s true — the truth is I’m actually a modest person. Very modest. It’s true. In fact many people tell me that modesty is perhaps my best quality.

wow - so…modest?

ok ok - I’ll keep looking, then.😛  
\*maybe the best username I’ve seen here, btw

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/520 "2017-01-14T00:34:16Z")

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I get the feeling that some who don’t like the speech somehow think that the Trump administration won’t affect her, that it’s somehow an abstraction to her because of her wealth and/or fame. I think that’s ludicrous.

I mean, would the detractors here dismiss George Takei talking about gay rights, or equal treatment of minorities by the government?

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