# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/101 "2017-01-09T17:35:15Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> Then can you tell me why Clinton has not sued her to shut this “nutcase” up?
> 
> I sure would.

You would tell her – or anybody else – to stop?

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/102 "2017-01-09T17:36:58Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> There is no difference. They are creating a fantasy just like children at play do.  
> Ergo: Play-Actors
> 
> Actors are a dime a dozen, there are so many good ones out there, most who never “make it big” for one reason or another
> 
> Writers, Directors and Producers do most of the work for these so called “artists”

If producers are so smart, why do they hire big name actors when actors are a dime a dozen? Seems they would get bigger profits by casting people off the street.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/103 "2017-01-09T17:43:30Z")

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I actually don’t give a flying fuck about Trump’s feelings. For my own I do and I am fed up to the fucking back teeth being lectured by actors and pop singers about the world’s woes. Stick your opinions up your pampered asses. If you want to talk politics or the environment go do it in the appropriate places, don’t hijack an entertainment show to do it.

I’ll make my own mind up about Trump or Clinton, I don’t need Hollywood jackasses to tell me how to think. And if I hear Di Caprio whining one more time about the environment before swanning off somewhere in a huge environment-destroying jet I swear I’ll barf into my popcorn.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/104 "2017-01-09T17:45:02Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> If you had any taste in food I might try to consider whatever point you were trying to make on the subject of what people put in your food.

That what you don’t like has absolutely no bearing on what other people are both free and inclined to do. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/105 "2017-01-09T17:48:25Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Are you sure you know what Streep said?
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> I don’t agree with that, but even if I did, are you saying there is a “tremendous civic hazard” in mocking a reporter? I’m not saying it’s a good thing to do, but I wouldn’t call it a “tremendous civic hazard”.

Even if Trump did a quarter of the ridiculous/criminal/unethical things he is either accused of or guilty of, it could be argued that it would be a tremendous civic hazard to have him in the White House. To have someone as our president who finds it acceptable to publicly mock ANYONE (with physical gestures and childish voices, no less), and uses this type of attack on a regular basis, both on Twitter and IRL, is something that needs to be called out loudly and often. Kudos to those with bully pulpits for using them. It keeps Trump’s bullshit out in the open and regularly discussed; anything that keeps us from forgetting what a piece of shit he is is OK by me.

> [@koufax](#):
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> No, they can express their opinions, but please find out if he in fact did mock the guy. Apparently, there is a question if he did or not.
> 
> And calling me dumbass doesn’t help your argument

You already said he mocked the guy in this thread. He did mock the guy, I don’t believe that part is in question. He shook his arms and mocked him with a ridiculous voice. If my kids repeatedly mocked people in that way, they’d be punished and told to stop. Trump does it and we elect him president, and then the shitstains come out in droves and say it’s okay that he mocks people because that’s just what he does.

And incidentally, you calling people you disagree with “Hitler” doesn’t help your argument either, dumbass.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/106 "2017-01-09T17:58:53Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> [Wikihow seems a godo starting point:](http://www.wikihow.com/Write-an-Acceptance-Speech)
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> More guidance can be found [here](http://www.write-out-loud.com/acceptance-speeches.html) and [here,](http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/business-career/public-speaking/how-to-make-an-acceptance-speech) which include links to some examples of what they consider good acceptance speeches. None suggest using one’s mic time to discuss, at length, matters completely unrelated to the award one has just received.

Great hints for those who’ve never won an award. Streep has a houseful of 'em. And she wanted to remind the world (the Golden Globes represents the international press) that not all Americans were xenophobic, racist assholes.

Good for her. Trump & his minions need to get used to ridicule. Or–he could stop doing things worth mocking. Nope…

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/107 "2017-01-09T17:59:30Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> Then can you tell me why Clinton has not sued her to shut this “nutcase” up?
> 
> I sure would.

Because that would extend the story, obviously.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/108 "2017-01-09T18:02:49Z")

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Mery Streep was honored by her peers, yet did not say one word about her own achievements. Instead she talked about empathy…BRAVO to Meryl Streep for staying classy!!!

**“Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence invites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose."** –Meryl Streep  
I’m gonna print that & hang it on my wall.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/109 "2017-01-09T18:10:47Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I actually don’t give a flying fuck about Trump’s feelings. For my own I do and I am fed up to the fucking back teeth being lectured by actors and pop singers about the world’s woes. Stick your opinions up your pampered asses. If you want to talk politics or the environment go do it in the appropriate places, don’t hijack an entertainment show to do it.
> 
> I’ll make my own mind up about Trump or Clinton, I don’t need Hollywood jackasses to tell me how to think. And if I hear Di Caprio whining one more time about the environment before swanning off somewhere in a huge environment-destroying jet I swear I’ll barf into my popcorn.

So edgy.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/110 "2017-01-09T18:12:37Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Could not have said it better myself. Agree 100%.
> 
> MS is, without question, one of the greatest actors of our time. But that doesn’t mean I want to hear her yapping about politics at an awards show.

I honest to God do not understand this sentiment. What does her profession have to do with anything? What does anyone’s? You think because she is an actor, she is not an educated person with insights? That she doesn’t have passion for issues?

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/111 "2017-01-09T18:15:06Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> And if you listen to the tape of Trump and his famous “grab them by the pussy” quote he says “they let you” meaning it is consensual as in “groupies”.

Just like if someone pulls a gun on you and demands your money, and you hand your wallet over without a fight, no crime was committed. After all, you _gave_ him your wallet, so it was consensual.

Oh wait, you mean the mugger was coercing you using power he had over your life, and you decided to just give him what he wanted in the moment rather than suffer possibly worse consequences? Huh. Weird.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/112 "2017-01-09T18:15:35Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Even if Trump did a quarter of the ridiculous/criminal/unethical things he is either accused of or guilty of, it could be argued that it would be a tremendous civic hazard to have him in the White House. To have someone as our president who finds it acceptable to publicly mock ANYONE (with physical gestures and childish voices, no less), and uses this type of attack on a regular basis, both on Twitter and IRL, is something that needs to be called out loudly and often. Kudos to those with bully pulpits for using them. It keeps Trump’s bullshit out in the open and regularly discussed; anything that keeps us from forgetting what a piece of shit he is is OK by me…

Eh. You say that because it makes you feel good. You might, however, ask yourself if it actually helps or hurts your cause. You might ask yourself whether those folks in MI, WI and whatnot are going to be influenced positively or negatively by folks like MS pontificating on awards shows. Because that’s the problem with too many Progressives-- they value feeling good over wining elections. You see it on this MB all the time.

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I am beginning to suspect that Trump is a coke or meth-head. Who’s up at four in the morning tweeting random paranoid craziness?

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/114 "2017-01-09T18:17:49Z")

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> [@John\_Bredin](#):
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> That what you don’t like has absolutely no bearing on what other people are both free and inclined to do. :dubious:

Of course not. Neither does any of the whining in this thread. But I have no respect for the all too common hypocrisy of the opinion on this subject based on whether or not the person agrees with the political opinion contaminating their soup. I don’t go to a restaurant to hear a waiter’s political opinion, and I don’t happen to tune into the Golden Globes while flipping through the channels at the inopportune time to hear Ms. Streep acting holier than thou. Or perhaps I’ve mistaken her for another lily white actress of the same name who felt that there was no lack of diversity in the judging at the Berlin Film Festival because “we’re all Africans really”.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/115 "2017-01-09T18:18:55Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> He seems to do it for anyone caught in a lie.

From [101Trump Lies](http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien) back in April 2016

> [@](#):
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> When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes. When Huffington Post catalogued his lies over the course of just one town hall event, they came up with 71 lies.

How many lies has he birthed in the nine months since? If he does it “for anyone caught in a lie”, his alone could probably power a small city if we can convert his shaking to electricity.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/116 "2017-01-09T18:22:17Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Eh. You say that because it makes you feel good. You might, however, ask yourself if it actually helps or hurts your cause. You might ask yourself whether those folks in MI, WI and whatnot are going to be influenced positively or negatively by folks like MS pontificating on awards shows. Because that’s the problem with too many Progressives-- they value feeling good over wining elections. You see it on this MB all the time.

Hear hear. Or here here, I forget which way that goes. But the whining is serving only the butthurt and their ilk.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/117 "2017-01-09T18:26:28Z")

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“Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence invites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose."–Meryl Streep  
“Wahh, Meryl Streep was mean to my hero and Dear Leader Trump! She’s a terrible actress and a poopyhead!” - dumbass **koufax**

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/118 "2017-01-09T18:27:54Z")

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Just for argument’s sake, let’s all pretend to agree that actor’s shouldn’t use award shows to air their political views. Did MS say anything untrue or immoral? Do you not think it’s inappropriate for a so-called grown man - never mind that he’s about to hold the highest political position in the country- to mock people and basically comport himself like a child?  
Do you disagree that bullying and abuse of power are bad things? What precisely did she say that you don’t agree with?

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/119 "2017-01-09T18:30:28Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I am beginning to suspect that Trump is a coke or meth-head. Who’s up at four in the morning tweeting random paranoid craziness?

I don’t disagree with you.

I was going to be charitable & say that the 70 year old man gets up to pee at 3AM and tweets because he’s grumpy that his Prostate made him get out of bed.  
(…maybe its YU-uuuge…?)

That might happen even if he wasn’t using coke, but President Elect “Bright Lights Big City” seems to exhibit clear signs of better living through creative chemistry.

**SNIFF**

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/120 "2017-01-09T18:36:40Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Of course not. Neither does any of the whining in this thread. But I have no respect for the all too common hypocrisy of the opinion on this subject based on whether or not the person agrees with the political opinion contaminating their soup. I don’t go to a restaurant to hear a waiter’s political opinion, and I don’t happen to tune into the Golden Globes while flipping through the channels at the inopportune time to hear Ms. Streep acting holier than thou. Or perhaps I’ve mistaken her for another lily white actress of the same name who felt that there was no lack of diversity in the judging at the Berlin Film Festival because “we’re all Africans really”.

Well actors are artists working in a very public sphere. Artists are supposed to challenge things.

Who would want to watch any show where the artists honored were not free to speak about the world given their minute or two?

Suck it up and stop pimping your world view as if you are delivering any kind of common sense. You aren’t.

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