# Hey meryl streep, you are a play-actor, nothing more **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718 "2017-01-09T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/161 "2017-01-09T20:36:57Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > If by edgy you mean sharp, cutting, then OK, if you say so. > > If you mean irritable, testy, then yes. Isn’t that what the Pit is for? > > I’m not really seeing your point. > > I see why you’re going with laconic though. It can give the impression of wit at a quick glance although when you look at it again you realize that nothing much is being said at all. But who looks closely at a Pit post, eh? Well he’s not complaining about what an actor said on TV. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/162 "2017-01-09T20:42:49Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I am not defending Trump on this subject in the least. I don’t want to hear about it at all from an actor. I don’t want to hear Trump’s commentary on the arts either. Good thing nobody’s forcing you to listen to either, then. And while you don’t listen, they both will use any platform they feel like using to talk about anything they want, I guess. > [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s a particularly dumb approach for the side trying to take the moral high ground since that isn’t going to isn’t going to be based on the production of the most shit flung the furthest. Eh. If 2016 has shown us something, is that common sense concepts have stopped meaning anything, so anything goes. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/163 "2017-01-09T20:43:17Z")
**Starving Artist** , I think you took her words much more literally than I did. Mr. Trump has famously railed against Hollywood, the media and (some) foreigners. I think she was using a bit of hyperbole to make her point. Or maybe not; I’m not inside her head.But like her or not, she’s not a \*stupid \*woman; I don’t think she’s hysterically pulling shit out of thin air. And even though I’m \*not \*inside her head, I guarantee she doesn’t hold the opinion that the worst part about all the foreigners in the country being forced out would be the lack of their contribution to the arts. But you already know that, don’t you 😉 As to the brouha-ha over Steve Martin’s tweet, I wholeheartedly agree that the reaction to that was a bunch of horseshit. I guess I wasn’t thinking of it as a left-wing thing because I think everyone here agreed it was a nonissue. But I’ll take your word for it. Doesn’t mean MS ever held that belief (unless you saw / heard her comment about it?). ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/164 "2017-01-09T20:45:02Z")
> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#): > > Eh. If 2016 has shown us something, is that common sense concepts have stopped meaning anything, so anything goes. That might be true if there was any common sense displayed last year. Maybe next time someone will try that approach. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/165 "2017-01-09T20:46:00Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I have to admit your trainwreck of thoughts is mildly entertaining to observe. But it’s not giving you any credibility in judging art or creativity. You would do better to focus on coherent thoughts. Perhaps you could develop some of your own instead of clumsily paraphrasing others you don’t seem to understand. When you’re making hay out of an actors speech, you have to whip up stuff. I get that. But that means you are going to have to acccept that you will end up as the trainwreck. Those are the requirements of argument. Just cite who I’m paraphrasing, cause I thought I wrote that post. Enlighten me. I bet this’ll be _ **creative** _. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/166 "2017-01-09T20:46:47Z")
Trump must be like a voodoo doll - poke him and his fans squeal in pain. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/167 "2017-01-09T20:56:45Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t want to hear about it at all from an actor. Why not? You hear about it from lawyers and cops and database analysts and waitresses and warehouse workers and doctors and pilots and Uber drivers and aspiring day traders and nannies and personal trainers and sewage treatment plant managers and whatever the hell else anybody who regularly speaks their mind does for a living. Why are actors required to keep their yaps shut? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/168 "2017-01-09T20:59:05Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Why not? You hear about it from lawyers and cops and database analysts and waitresses and warehouse workers and doctors and pilots and Uber drivers and aspiring day traders and nannies and personal trainers and sewage treatment plant managers and whatever the hell else anybody who regularly speaks their mind does for a living. Why are actors required to keep their yaps shut? Well for one thing, she doesn’t have the prestige of being a misogynistic scam artist/former game show host. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/169 "2017-01-09T21:02:10Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Eh. You say that because it makes you feel good. You might, however, ask yourself if it actually helps or hurts your cause. You might ask yourself whether those folks in MI, WI and whatnot are going to be influenced positively or negatively by folks like MS pontificating on awards shows. Because that’s the problem with too many Progressives-- they value feeling good over wining elections. You see it on this MB all the time. So what is the proper venue and job title a Progressive must have in order to pontificate on politics? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/170 "2017-01-09T21:08:48Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Well for one thing, she doesn’t have the prestige of being a misogynistic scam artist/former game show host. No shit. Once we start putting reality show hosts in the White House, I think it’s a little late to start complaining about what actors have to say about it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/171 "2017-01-09T21:12:09Z")
Just another asshole to add to the “Ignore” list. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/172 "2017-01-09T21:15:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Funny, I thought she was a US citizen and therefore had a constitutional right to address her political concerns. Thanks for clearing that up for me. > [@John Bredin](#): > > I don’t like onions in my food, but that has zero to do with what others put in their food, as they are\* free to do. Nice strawmen. Exactly nobody in this thread has challenged her freedom under the law or under the rules of the Golden Globes award ceremony to say whatever she wants; not one person so far has suggested that she be imprisoned, fined, or banned from future award ceremonies. Maybe it’s time to name another internet rule like Godwin’s law or Rule 34: it seems like any time a question of taste/etiquette/decorum comes up, eventually someone feels inexplicably compelled to point out that “X has a right to [do whatever they did]!”, even if nobody has suggested otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/173 "2017-01-09T21:25:32Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Nice strawmen. Exactly nobody in this thread has challenged her freedom under the law or under the rules of the Golden Globes award ceremony to say whatever she wants; not one person so far has suggested that she be imprisoned, fined, or banned from future award ceremonies. > > Maybe it’s time to name another internet rule like Godwin’s law or Rule 34: it seems like any time a question of taste/etiquette/decorum comes up, eventually someone feels inexplicably compelled to point out that “X has a right to [do whatever they did]!”, even if nobody has suggested otherwise. “taste/etiquette/decorum”? Are these things that only one side needs to respect? Where was the hang wringing from the right over taste, etiquette and decorum during the campaign? Hell over the last 8 years even? Is it just a do as I say but not as I do kind of thing then? ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/174 "2017-01-09T21:33:54Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > I’m not a big Streep fan but I’d take her as president over trump. > She always prepares for her roles and always nails them. > > I’ll even make a bet with you. Let Trump be president for a month and see how well he does. Then let Streep be president for a month and see how well she does. The better one gets to go on being president. Honestly, I would feel much better about the future of our country if Streep was our president elect. Not kidding or exaggerating. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/175 "2017-01-09T21:42:51Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Why not? You hear about it from lawyers and cops and database analysts and waitresses and warehouse workers and doctors and pilots and Uber drivers and aspiring day traders and nannies and personal trainers and sewage treatment plant managers and whatever the hell else anybody who regularly speaks their mind does for a living. Why are actors required to keep their yaps shut? I don’t want to hear it from them either. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/176 "2017-01-09T21:48:09Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > “taste/etiquette/decorum”? Are these things that only one side needs to respect? Where was the hang wringing from the right over taste, etiquette and decorum during the campaign? Hell over the last 8 years even? Is it just a do as I say but not as I do kind of thing then? No, everyone should respect them. And I’ll bet your mother taught you “but all the kids are doing it” is never an adequate justification for acting like a jerk. However, if you want to be just like the jackasses on “the right”, that’s certainly your privilege. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/177 "2017-01-09T21:56:50Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t want to hear it from them either. Poor baby, surrounded by people who are - gasp! - _talking!_ Maybe you should build an echo chamber in your home so at least some of the time, you’re assured of only listening to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/178 "2017-01-09T21:57:24Z")
I think Meryl Streep is the most overrated actress of her generation, and I usually don’t like it when actors use the awards speech to further their political views (Leo, I’m looking at YOU) even if I share them. BUT…in this case I loved it, I loved what she said, and I think it was most appropriate that she said it. Yay for Meryl! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/179 "2017-01-09T21:58:43Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t want to hear it from them either. So you’re just not pleased with the the fact that people hold opinions. Okay. Now we’re on the same page. Next question: based upon that, why should anybody give a shit about \*your \*opinion? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718/180 "2017-01-09T22:05:28Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t want to hear it from them either. Okay everyone-- keep your heads down, your fucking mouths shut and just hope for the best. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-meryl-streep-you-are-a-play-actor-nothing-more/776718.md?page=10)