# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/221 "2015-03-05T14:51:46Z")

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And here I thought we were talking about **Bluesman**. (The board search software doesn’t turn up anyone with the username “TexasRangerOwner” or anything remotely similar, fwiw.)

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/222 "2015-03-05T14:53:59Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> And here I thought we were talking about **Bluesman**. (The board search software doesn’t turn up anyone with the username “TexasRangerOwner” or anything remotely similar, fwiw.)

George W. Whoosh.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/223 "2015-03-05T15:17:56Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> … I’m just out of popcorn.

I have Cheetos and a good box of 2015 vintage flavor enhanced wine. Gawd, I’m living the life.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/224 "2015-03-05T16:15:44Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Okay. You want to know what the grudge is? Opal, at the very same time she was talking to me IRL and pretending to be my friend, was posting trash about me on another site. As it turns out, she’s done that to other people. As another poster mentioned upthread, I did extend an olive branch to her and her response was to increase her vitriol against me. She was a nasty piece of work and it appeared to me that she liked being that way and to hell with whomever she hurt. That’s the reason why I don’t engage in this board’s “Opal worship” and it’s the reason I, along with some others, will have, as I said in the other thread, no problem whatsoever remembering her for something other than that stupid joke. If you think that’s petty of me, well, that’s your prerogative.
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> The Second Stone: You are seriously losing your grasp. You’re a lying sack of dung and you don’t understand even the concept of decency. I never lied to you, you piece of shit.

Clearly she was the worst human being ever. I’d hold that grudge until I die too.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/225 "2015-03-05T17:37:47Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Okay. You want to know what the grudge is? Opal, at the very same time she was talking to me IRL and pretending to be my friend, was posting trash about me on another site. As it turns out, she’s done that to other people. As another poster mentioned upthread, I did extend an olive branch to her and her response was to increase her vitriol against me. She was a nasty piece of work and it appeared to me that she liked being that way and to hell with whomever she hurt. That’s the reason why I don’t engage in this board’s “Opal worship” and it’s the reason I, along with some others, will have, as I said in the other thread, no problem whatsoever remembering her for something other than that stupid joke. If you think that’s petty of me, well, that’s your prerogative.
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> The Second Stone: You are seriously losing your grasp. You’re a lying sack of dung and you don’t understand even the concept of decency. I never lied to you, you piece of shit.

So she talked about you behind you back to her other acquaintances where she didn’t think you would find out and you did? Oh my. You extended an olive branch (did it have your usual middle finger on the end?) She increased her vitriol. Oh my. _You would never increase your vitriol._

Look, you damn liar, you did not “extend an olive branch” unless some actual tree branch was offered. You said something else that pissed her off further. You now give it a euphemism.

As for “I never lied to you, you piece of shit”, you’ve never addressed me in any respect than other than on this message board. And you’ve done nothing but lie in the posts I’ve seen. You’re schtick of I’m not going to talk specific ill of the dead and then generally and vaguely trash them, is a lie. And by the way it is indecent in any sense of the word.

> [@Monty](#):
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> Okay. You want to know what the grudge is?

No, you indecent dumb shit, we do not want to know what the grudge is. The whole matter should have been buried with Opal and you should have left it there. It was petty, stupid, two decades ago. So the fuck what if she spoke ill of you behind your back. You don’t take it well when I write ill of you to your face either. There isn’t really anything redeeming about you to talk about. You should just be happy that people talk about you at all. If it’s what a prickly, lying, rapist supporting, misogynistic piece of poop you are, well, at least you are the bell of your own ball.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> In my experience, both you AND Monty are acting like giant douchebags here. Him for coyly hinting at some petty grudge from years ago, and you for flipping out and somehow managing to drag in Bill Cosby, WMDs and global warming. Not that it hasn’t been entertaining. I’m just out of popcorn.

There there. There there. We haven’t forgotten you. Popcorn is not the food of choice in this thread, burgers are, with lots of condiments. Do pay attention.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/226 "2015-03-05T17:39:59Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Clearly she was the worst human being ever. I’d hold that grudge until I die too.

You’re no fun when you post sober.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/227 "2015-03-05T18:11:37Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> We once had a poster here who claimed to have a high security clearance in the military and he said that they had absolutely proof that there WERE WMDs in Iraq. He couldn’t tell us exactly what his job was, or the exact details, but he was adamant that Bush and Co. would be vindicated.
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> Then, of course, it was revealed that there no WMDs.

Actually, there were _some_, as I posted. Just not a significant amount, and \*certainly not a danger to the US or world peace. \*

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/228 "2015-03-05T18:13:13Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> In my experience, both you AND Monty are acting like giant douchebags here. Him for coyly hinting at some petty grudge from years ago, and you for flipping out and somehow managing to drag in Bill Cosby, WMDs and global warming.

I rarely agree with Guinastasia,😛 but here she is right on. Except I think Monty was winning here, simply by mostly staying away. Then he ruined it. Dude- STFU. Dont wrestle with pigs.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/229 "2015-03-05T18:13:29Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> You’re no fun when you post sober.

You’re no fun when you post.

So, yanno. You got that going for ya.  
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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/230 "2015-03-05T18:16:05Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> So she talked about you behind you back to her other acquaintances where she didn’t think you would find out and you did? Oh my. You extended an olive branch (did it have your usual middle finger on the end?) She increased her vitriol. Oh my. _You would never increase your vitriol._
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> Look, you damn liar, you did not “extend an olive branch” unless some actual tree branch was offered. You said something else that pissed her off further. You now give it a euphemism.
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> As for “I never lied to you, you piece of shit”, you’ve never addressed me in any respect than other than on this message board. And you’ve done nothing but lie in the posts I’ve seen. You’re schtick of I’m not going to talk specific ill of the dead and then generally and vaguely trash them, is a lie. And by the way it is indecent in any sense of the word.
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> No, you indecent dumb shit, we do not want to know what the grudge is. The whole matter should have been buried with Opal and you should have left it there. It was petty, stupid, two decades ago. So the fuck what if she spoke ill of you behind your back. You don’t take it well when I write ill of you to your face either. There isn’t really anything redeeming about you to talk about. You should just be happy that people talk about you at all. If it’s what a prickly, lying, rapist supporting, misogynistic piece of poop you are, well, at least you are the bell of your own ball.
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> There there. There there. We haven’t forgotten you. Popcorn is not the food of choice in this thread, burgers are, with lots of condiments. Do pay attention.

It’s paint, isn’t it? You’re huffing spray paint.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/231 "2015-03-05T18:17:13Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> No, you indecent dumb shit, we do not want to know what the grudge is.

Psst, dude, read the OP. Just sayin.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/232 "2015-03-05T18:23:03Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Psst, dude, read the OP. Just sayin.

Or even just the thread title…

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/233 "2015-03-05T18:31:28Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I rarely agree with Guinastasia,😛 but here she is right on. Except I think Monty was winning here, simply by mostly staying away. Then he ruined it. Dude- STFU. Dont wrestle with pigs.

Monty can’t stay away. That’s what makes it so fun. The turd can’t leave a two decade old ‘she said something mean behind my back’ thing alone to someone who is dead. He runs and gathers his ‘friends’ and comes back for a pitting, and then can’t just leave it to his friends.

The saying, is “Don’t wrestle with pigs. You both get muddy and the pig likes it.” In this case, I am the piggy. Monty, I like beating on you. You’re a half-man. You hold stupid grudges, you lie so much you believe you are telling the truth, you think Cosby is innocent, you tattle to your friends because you can’t handle yourself and you are, in your mind, always right. Oh, and I left out maligning the dead. You malign the dead.

And the good doctor of death is right. When you slink away like the coward you are and let your four buddies do your fighting for you, and talk bbq, you look better. Because nothing is uglier than when you show up and nothing is more offensive than when you open your shit hole mouth.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/234 "2015-03-05T18:42:57Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> So, it was wrong to claim Saddam had WMDs without proof, but it’s right to claim Cosby is a rapist without proof because… reasons, I guess.

It’s wrong to invade a country without proof. It’s wrong to convict a person of rape without proof.

But claims? You can make all the claims you want. You can claim Bill Cosby committed multiple rapes and you can claim he’s an innocent man being wrongfully accused. You can even claim Bill Cosby is building weapons of mass destruction if you want. The only thing endangered by your claims is your credibility.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/235 "2015-03-05T19:04:38Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Monty can’t stay away. That’s what makes it so fun. The turd can’t leave a two decade old ‘she said something mean behind my back’ thing alone to someone who is dead. He runs and gathers his ‘friends’ and comes back for a pitting, and then can’t just leave it to his friends.
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> The saying, is “Don’t wrestle with pigs. You both get muddy and the pig likes it.” In this case, I am the piggy. Monty, I like beating on you. You’re a half-man. You hold stupid grudges, you lie so much you believe you are telling the truth, you think Cosby is innocent, you tattle to your friends because you can’t handle yourself and you are, in your mind, always right. Oh, and I left out maligning the dead. You malign the dead.
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> And the good doctor of death is right. When you slink away like the coward you are and let your four buddies do your fighting for you, and talk bbq, you look better. Because nothing is uglier than when you show up and nothing is more offensive than when you open your shit hole mouth.

You are not beating on anyone you are just looking like a complete idiot.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/236 "2015-03-05T19:27:45Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> You are not beating on anyone you are just looking like a complete idiot.

Forget it, he’s rolling.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/237 "2015-03-05T19:41:54Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> You are not beating on anyone you are just looking like a complete idiot.

Hey, stop! I just popped a new batch of popcorn.

ETA: Come on over, Guin!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/238 "2015-03-05T19:47:53Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> \<snip\> He runs and gathers his ‘friends’ and comes back for a pitting, and then can’t just leave it to his friends. \<snip\>

Is this where the dance-off is? I was told there would be a dance-off.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/239 "2015-03-05T19:52:27Z")

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I was actually craving popcorn while reading some of the earlier pages of this thread.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/240 "2015-03-05T19:54:35Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Is this where the dance-off is? I was told there would be a dance-off.

Over [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q_6w1cF8GI).

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