# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/381 "2015-03-09T13:58:14Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > My “defense?” I don’t need to defend anything. I seem to be the only one around who knows the person in question, knows the truth about her, and the truth needs no defense. > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Anyway, if your remains are cremated, I can arrange to have cat poop rolled in them, wrap them in gold foil and put them in an Almond Roca tin to send to your buddies. You know, if we could somehow stitch **Green Cymbeline** ’s patent attention whoring to **The Second Stone** ’s batshit madness, we could almost recreate Opal out of them. Igor? Meet me in the lab! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/382 "2015-03-09T14:42:25Z")
Are there **Green Opal Stones** in nature? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/383 "2015-03-09T14:55:20Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > You know, if we could somehow stitch **Green Cymbeline** ’s patent attention whoring to **The Second Stone** ’s batshit madness, we could almost recreate Opal out of them. > > Igor? Meet me in the lab! Tru dat. Before **Green Cymbeline** jumped with both feet into this thread at post 317, it had turned into a pun-fest. The best way for her to keep people from saying bad shit about **Opal** was to just keep letting this thread fade out. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/384 "2015-03-09T14:57:32Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Google his name with the word “arrest” and you get, among other cites, that he was “wanted for possession of a controlled substance.” I’m not going to provide a link just in case the mods are feeling jack-booty. But it’s out there and you can find it as easily as I can. > [@OneCentStamp](#): > > Well, here’s a live warrant, less than three months before they met.: [ARREST WARRANTS: Wanted in Oak Forest | Oak Forest, IL Patch](http://oakforest.patch.com/articles/arrest-warrants-wanted-in-oak-forest-2b0764b3) > > If you want to know how it’s relevant to Opal, I can provide multiple admissions of drug abuse on her part. I mean, she overshared every every everything, and nothing on the Internet is ever truly gone. I’ve seen the arrest for controlled substances back in the year 2000. 15 years ago. But I am still waiting for a cite that he was a “heroin addict.” That just bugs me that because someone was arrested for possession 15 years ago, all of a sudden he’s an “addict.” Can someone finally explain that?? And even if he was a “bad influence” for Katherine to hang out with, who cares? How is that relevant? Her death was not related to illegal drugs. In all the time I knew her, she never did any drugs. She would barely even have one drink if we’d go out. She was actually pretty straight edge. Whatever you’re referring to (“multiple admissions of drug abuse”) probably took place before 2002 when I became friends with her. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/385 "2015-03-09T14:59:18Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Tru dat. > > Before **Green Cymbeline** jumped with both feet into this thread at post 317, it had turned into a pun-fest. The best way for her to keep people from saying bad shit about **Opal** was to just keep letting this thread fade out. You’re absolutely right. But it just really pissed me off that people are trying to denigrate her by calling her boyfriend a “heroin addict” without any justification. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/386 "2015-03-09T15:01:48Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Before **Green Cymbeline** jumped with both feet into this thread at post 317, it had turned into a pun-fest. **The best way for her to keep people from saying bad shit about** **Opal** was to just keep letting this thread fade out. But of course we don’t think that was her goal, do we? _“Only I know the truth and I’m not telling so neener neener”_ isn’t really intended to defuse anything, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/387 "2015-03-09T15:07:34Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > You’re absolutely right. But it just really pissed me off that people are trying to denigrate her by calling her boyfriend a “heroin addict” without any justification. So, what was he in jail for when he had to solicit funds to go to her memorial services on March 22, 2013? ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/388 "2015-03-09T15:14:42Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > I’ve seen the arrest for controlled substances back in the year 2000. 15 years ago. But I am still waiting for a cite that he was a “heroin addict.” That just bugs me that because someone was arrested for possession 15 years ago, all of a sudden he’s an “addict.” Can someone finally explain that?? > > And even if he was a “bad influence” for Katherine to hang out with, who cares? How is that relevant? Her death was not related to illegal drugs. > > In all the time I knew her, she never did any drugs. She would barely even have one drink if we’d go out. She was actually pretty straight edge. Whatever you’re referring to (“multiple admissions of drug abuse”) probably took place before 2002 when I became friends with her. She did mention [taking one of her son’s pills once](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=618807). I don’t know if you’d count that as “doing drugs.” As I understand it, this was a one-time thing. Not that I’m trying to defend or bash **Opal**. I wasn’t too familiar with her before she died. I have no dog in this fight. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/389 "2015-03-09T15:21:23Z")
You know who else has no dog? ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/390 "2015-03-09T15:25:57Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > You’re absolutely right. But it just really pissed me off that people are trying to denigrate her by calling her boyfriend a “heroin addict” without any justification. And yet, oddly, you’re not saying he wasn’t. Not that you have to, of course, but if you continue to talk about it and refuse to deny it, you’re providing the very justification that you claim doesn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/391 "2015-03-09T15:52:46Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > You’re absolutely right. But it just really pissed me off that people are trying to denigrate her by calling her boyfriend a “heroin addict” without any justification. OK, you dived into this thread and got it spinning again at post #317. I did a thread search for the word ‘heroin’. Its first appearance? Post #318. Apparently you can see into the future, and get pissed off about things that haven’t happened yet. ---
**Author:** ![TCMF-2L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tcmf-2l/32/16553_2.png) [@TCMF-2L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TCMF-2L)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/392 "2015-03-09T16:25:31Z")
> [@AncientHumanoid](#): > > You know who else has no dog? Having been following this thread I have been made aware of someone who is Two-Dogs. Sadly I don’t even know what that means. ☹ TCMF-2L ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/393 "2015-03-09T16:34:37Z")
> [@TCMF-2L](#): > > Having been following this thread I have been made aware of someone who is Two-Dogs. > > Sadly I don’t even know what that means. ☹ It’s from an old joke. A young Indian brave asks the chief how Indians get their names. The chief tells him that he (the chief) names all the new babies and that he names them after the first thing he sees on the way to view the new child. Thus, they have Running Deer, Drifting Cloud, and Singing Bird, among others, in the tribe. The punchline is when the chief inquires “But why do you ask, Two Dogs F\*\*\*ing?” ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/394 "2015-03-09T16:36:22Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > You’re absolutely right. But it just really pissed me off that people are trying to denigrate her by calling her boyfriend a “heroin addict” without any justification. Based on what she posted\*, she was a crazy-ass train wreck. Now that she’s dead, she still is. So…at least there’s consistency. \*and her whole schtick was “I’m posting everything in my life” ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/395 "2015-03-09T16:46:07Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > And even if he was a “bad influence” for Katherine to hang out with, who cares? How is that relevant? Her death was not related to illegal drugs. Honestly, I wouldn’t call it relevant as much as maybe symptomatic? For all her declarations that this new relationship was the thing that was going to make her happy, it seemed like just one more whirlwind event in a year or more of them, since she went spiraling downhill after her wedding to Dan. I don’t know if Jack was a good influence or a bad one, and I don’t think it really matters…I think she needed to figure out some things outside of her relationships, and perhaps in lieu of starting a new, intense one at that point in her life. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![TCMF-2L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tcmf-2l/32/16553_2.png) [@TCMF-2L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TCMF-2L)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/396 "2015-03-09T16:48:14Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > It’s from an old joke. A young Indian brave asks the chief how Indians get their names. The chief tells him that he (the chief) names all the new babies and that he names them after the first thing he sees on the way to view the new child. Thus, they have Running Deer, Drifting Cloud, and Singing Bird, among others, in the tribe. The punchline is when the chief inquires “But why do you ask, Two Dogs F\*\*\*ing?” Ignorance fought! Now you remind me the joke has a familiar ring but before your reminder I was not making any connection. So thank you. 🙂 TCMF-2L PS If anyone makes the ‘But you fornicate one goat…’ reference I should be OK with that one. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/397 "2015-03-09T16:48:45Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > This. I don’t know how a person who would fuck that up is allowed to post here. We used to have standards. No we didn’t. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/398 "2015-03-09T16:50:20Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > But she definetly had her issues. I don’t think that would be news to anyone here. Its unfortunate, but it’s true. This is from someone with more issues than National Geographic. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/399 "2015-03-09T16:51:24Z")
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/400 "2015-03-09T16:56:20Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Tru dat. > > Before **Green Cymbeline** jumped with both feet into this thread at post 317, it had turned into a pun-fest. The best way for her to keep people from saying bad shit about **Opal** was to just keep letting this thread fade out. To Quote that underrated film _Clue_: “_Too Late!_”😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=21)