# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/461 "2015-03-10T03:40:26Z")
Yes, after doing some research, I see it was that one. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/462 "2015-03-10T03:47:18Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I remember she wrote a charming anecdote about an Arabic neighbor who had never seen porn before and came over to her place to watch. Boom Chicka-Wa-Wa! We need links to that shit! Wakka-wakka-bing-bang! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/463 "2015-03-10T03:55:52Z")
No, we don’t. **Knowed Out** summed it up nicely. Katherine was a friend, not just to me but to many others, here and elsewhere. She had her problems, none of which affect any of us today. In my poorly-respected opinion we should let this discussion end and let her rest. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/464 "2015-03-10T04:32:06Z")
What was **[this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14571079&postcount=53)** all about? (from someone responding in a thread of Opalcat’s, presumedly alluding to Opalcat -the thread where Opalcat was pissed off that people found and disseminated graphic photos of her from her website) > [@](#): > > I know someone who broke into someone else’s web files and deleted every single web page (dozens, all painstakingly hand-coded), as well as every single image on them that hundreds of people were enjoying, and had a good laugh over it behind the person’s back. Do you think a certain kind of person like that would be subject to any “karmic” activity? ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/465 "2015-03-10T14:24:22Z")
^^ What it sounds like to me: Way back in the day, 2001 or so, Shayna put together something called the SDMB People Pages. Basically a photo album of pics of SDMB member submitted by members, similar to what Arnold did recently before he disappeared. At some point, the People Pages became corrupted. Sounds like it she thinks it was intentional. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/466 "2015-03-10T14:41:16Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/467 "2015-03-10T15:03:57Z")
I think this thread is now our all-time leader in self-deleted posts. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/468 "2015-03-10T15:06:51Z")
And you can find more of that acrimony [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=40818), which has a link to further discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/469 "2015-03-10T15:19:54Z")
> [@sich\_hinaufwinden](#): > > Easy now, or else he might leave in a huff. Let’s give it a minute and a huff. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/470 "2015-03-10T16:05:15Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Let’s give it a minute and a huff. Hey, that’s _[my](http://www.marx-brothers.org/whyaduck/info/movies/scenes/firefly.htm)_ line! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/471 "2015-03-10T19:44:31Z")
> [@Green\_Cymbeline](#): > > His arrest for “possession of controlled substance” was in 2000. He had a warrant out more recently for “probation violation.” > > I keep asking this, but where did you get “Heroin Jack” from? Where did the idea of him as a drug addict come from? Did you just pull it out of your ass? In certain circles Heroin Jack is well known. 😃 [Here’s some info.](http://www.youcaring.com/other/help-jack/48707) ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/472 "2015-03-10T19:48:10Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > We have attorneys on this board who are respected. They are thoughtful, intelligent, composed, and witty. Well where the hell are you keeping them? I want to know what threads they post in. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/473 "2015-03-10T20:19:39Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > In certain circles Heroin Jack is well known. > 😃 > [Here’s some info.](http://www.youcaring.com/other/help-jack/48707) I think he posts on some of the other boards too. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/474 "2015-03-10T21:51:55Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > What was **[this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14571079&postcount=53)** all about? (from someone responding in a thread of Opalcat’s, presumedly alluding to Opalcat -the thread where Opalcat was pissed off that people found and disseminated graphic photos of her from her website) Basically, **Shayna** , with the help of **Techchick** started a photopage back in the early days of the Dope. She did a lot of work on it – collected a whole bunch of pictures, typed out all of the coding by hand (no editor), paid for it all as well. She did a fantastic job, and it was really popular. Well, **Opal** was jealous apparently because SHE wanted to start a page on the dope or something like that, or her page wasn’t as popular as **Shayna** ’s. (Some stupid middle-school type bullshit). And as a lot of people are aware, **Techchick** had a major drinking problem. (She’s been banned for ages, so I think it’s safe to point that out). And somehow **Opal** was either talking to her on the phone, or chatting online with her when **Techchick** was hammered, and she managed to convince **Techchick** to give her the password to **Shayna** ’s page. And then went in and proceded to delete every single file. **Shayna** admitted it was partly her fault for not having a back-up, but this was back before portable hard-drives and flashdrives were popular. (At least beyond geeks) Either way, it was an extremely malicious and hateful thing for **Opal** to do, and she never once acknowledged it, or apologized. While it sounds like **Shayna** was carrying a grudge there, I think she was trying to point out to **Opal** , hey – might want to own up to your own past deeds? Now, am I saying that **Opal** was a viscious bitch who deserved to die? No. But was she a wonderful caring person who was “universally loved”? No. There are people out there who have reason not to like her. I personally didn’t have any seriously strong feelings about her, at least that I can recall off the top of my head. I only met her once at a Dopefest, and she seemed nice enough. But she definitely loved to cause drama. That’s just a fact. I’m sorry she died. But that doesn’t mean you have to automatically beatify her. Besides, nobody’s “universally loved”. Except maybe Mister Rogers. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/475 "2015-03-10T21:59:31Z")
And Jesus. Don’t forget about Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/476 "2015-03-10T22:02:29Z")
Meh, I had to fire him – he kept showing up late to trim my hedges. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/477 "2015-03-10T22:09:28Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > And Jesus. Don’t forget about Jesus. And Betty White. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/478 "2015-03-10T22:16:54Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Either way, it was an extremely malicious and hateful thing for **Opal** to do, and she never once acknowledged it, or apologized. if she never admitted it, how do you know she did it? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/479 "2015-03-10T22:21:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > if she never admitted it, how do you know she did it? 😕 Fingerprints. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/480 "2015-03-10T22:33:58Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Fingerprints. 🙂 Ah, so teh interwebs can be checked for fingerprints- who nu? 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=25)