# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/481 "2015-03-10T22:39:33Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Either way, it was an extremely malicious and hateful thing for **Opal** to do, and she never once acknowledged it, or apologized. Illegal, too; wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/482 "2015-03-10T22:39:49Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > if she never admitted it, how do you know she did it? 😕 Pixels. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/483 "2015-03-10T22:50:43Z")
You know who else did bad shit? Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/484 "2015-03-10T23:52:17Z")
[From the MPSIMS thread on assessment essay gems:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17585644&postcount=25) > [@](#): > > I disagree with Hitler’s actions and the way he abused his power but I am thankful for the great amount of history he created for us to learn. You know who else created a lot of [Straight Dope Message Board] history for us to learn? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/485 "2015-03-10T23:53:51Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/486 "2015-03-11T00:39:57Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > In certain circles Heroin Jack is well known. > 😃 > [Here’s some info.](http://www.youcaring.com/other/help-jack/48707) Aww, “Send This Boy To Camp.” Adorable. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/487 "2015-03-11T01:19:47Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > . . . Well, **Opal** was jealous apparently because SHE wanted to start a page on the dope or something like that, or her page wasn’t as popular as **Shayna** ’s. . . . Sorta. Opal’s old site, before she started the FFF boards, had a page for the ‘old group’ (the AOLers) to enter their name and some personal info. I think it had pics, but you had to send them to Opal to post. Maybe she had to edit any profile info. But in one of the deeper threads I posted, she said that ‘now you can do it yourself.’ ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/488 "2015-03-11T01:28:27Z")
The history in this topic is actually very interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/489 "2015-03-11T02:19:36Z")
> [@spinky](#): > > You should never store tits in buckets large enough for a person to fall into. Otherwise it constitutes an attractive nuisance. ---
**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/490 "2015-03-11T03:48:07Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > Otherwise it constitutes an attractive nuisance. According to the penal code? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/491 "2015-03-11T13:28:20Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > if she never admitted it, how do you know she did it? 😕 Bill Cosby said so. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/492 "2015-03-11T15:32:27Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > The history in this topic is actually very interesting. Well, for a given level of “very interesting”. :dubious: Opal started her “Teeming Millions” pages by gleaning the names of all the chat hosts and posting them there. She neglected to ask any of us for permission to do so. One host asked that her name be removed. Rather than just removing her name, Opal just italicized and struck through that host’s name [del]_host’s name_[/del] as what was pretty clearly a “Well, fuck YOU!” to that host. And I believe there were some issues with trademarks/copyrights between Opal and the Chicago Reader with Opal’s unauthorized use of “Teeming Millions” and certainly “Straight Dope” when Opal set up a @straightdope .com email domain thing, again without permission. I guess it may be very interesting in retrospect. In realtime, there was a lot of exasperation. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/493 "2015-03-11T15:36:29Z")
All the DRAMA is starting to come back to me now… ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/494 "2015-03-11T16:16:03Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > You know who else did bad shit? > > Hitler. You know who else would probably be thrilled to still be infamous in 2015? Hitler. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/495 "2015-03-11T17:56:50Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > Well, for a given level of “very interesting”. :dubious: > > Opal started her “Teeming Millions” pages by gleaning the names of all the chat hosts and posting them there. She neglected to ask any of us for permission to do so. One host asked that her name be removed. Rather than just removing her name, Opal just italicized and struck through that host’s name [del]_host’s name_[/del] as what was pretty clearly a “Well, fuck YOU!” to that host. And I believe there were some issues with trademarks/copyrights between Opal and the Chicago Reader with Opal’s unauthorized use of “Teeming Millions” and certainly “Straight Dope” when Opal set up a @straightdope .com email domain thing, again without permission. > > I guess it may be very interesting in retrospect. In realtime, there was a lot of exasperation. [LINK. Things get…interesting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=5349) around post 18 when Ed Zotti explains (completely reasonably) what happened and post 19 where Opal starts flinging poo. She was also spamming the _fuck_ out of the SDMB with her Teeming Millions page crap back then. [Here’s a quick google search showing how many goddamn relentlessly self-promoting threads she started about it](http://www.google.com/search?num=30&safe=active&q=site%3Aboards.straightdope.com+opalcat+teemingmillions.com&oq=site%3Aboards.straightdope.com+opalcat+teemingmillions.com&gs_l=serp.3...171028.171028.0.171334.1.1.0.0.0.0.94.94.1.1.0.msedr...0...1c.1.62.serp..1.0.0.-BKdt9wuQnw) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/496 "2015-03-11T18:15:04Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > [LINK. Things get…interesting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=5349) around post 18 when Ed Zotti explains (completely reasonably) what happened and post 19 where Opal starts flinging poo. > > She was also spamming the _fuck_ out of the SDMB with her Teeming Millions page crap back then. [Here’s a quick google search showing how many goddamn relentlessly self-promoting threads she started about it](http://www.google.com/search?num=30&safe=active&q=site%3Aboards.straightdope.com+opalcat+teemingmillions.com&oq=site%3Aboards.straightdope.com+opalcat+teemingmillions.com&gs_l=serp.3...171028.171028.0.171334.1.1.0.0.0.0.94.94.1.1.0.msedr...0...1c.1.62.serp..1.0.0.-BKdt9wuQnw) That’s flinging poo? She complied with a ‘cease and desist’ and in several posts asked Ed to “pull his head out”. In all the posts you’ve ever made referring to a poster you disagree with, none have ever been so polite. We get it, some of you guys loathed Opal. Well the rest of us didn’t and think you are all haters. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/497 "2015-03-11T19:15:35Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > We get it, some of you guys loathed Opal. Well the rest of us didn’t and think you are all haters. What you refuse to acknowledge for whatever reason is that it’s perfectly possible to form a legit opinion about Opal, based on what she chose to put into the public sphere on the internet. It’s not like there’s a super secret Opal that only existed in real life. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/498 "2015-03-11T20:15:59Z")
What I decline to acknowledge is that it is “legit” to speak ill of the non-felony deceased, and then to say, I’m not going to get into the details, and then get into the details and it amounts to a bunch of morons being catty bitches. That, and when Monty disparages anyone’s character that he knows personally, that he is by far worse. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/499 "2015-03-11T20:20:02Z")
I thought we ran your lying ass out of here? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/500 "2015-03-11T20:23:23Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > a bunch of morons being catty bitches. I find it interesting the TSS calls people misogynists but always seems to fall back on gendered insults (or occasionally homophobic ones). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=26)