# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/501 "2015-03-11T20:35:31Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I find it interesting the TSS calls people misogynists but always seems to fall back on gendered insults (or occasionally homophobic ones). A very good friend of mine who is a rabit 3rd-wave feminist with a large internet following was just telling me that some of the most misogynistic people you will run across are men who consider themselves allies. Almost invariably they still resort to gendered insults and making comments about a girl’s tits when they show some cleavage on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/502 "2015-03-11T20:40:43Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I thought we ran your lying ass out of here? You are mistaken when you say “I thought”. You came to a conclusion after forming a feeling consistent with your idea of yourself as a decent person. Coming to a conclusion isn’t thought, especially when you haven’t even begun to think. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/503 "2015-03-11T20:43:43Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > A very good friend of mine who is a rabit 3rd-wave feminist with a large internet following was just telling me that some of the most misogynistic people you will run across are men who consider themselves allies. Almost invariably they still resort to gendered insults and making comments about a girl’s tits when they show some cleavage on the internet. And the person making degrading references to tits in this thread would be Morgenstern, not me. Incidentally, “rabit” should probably be spelled “rabid” and suggests foaming at the mouth and crazy. I’m not so sure you should refer to your very good friend that way. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/504 "2015-03-11T20:55:32Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > And the person making degrading references to tits in this thread would be Morgenstern, not me. > > Incidentally, “rabit” should probably be spelled “rabid” and suggests foaming at the mouth and crazy. I’m not so sure you should refer to your very good friend that way. Oh, I should explain that I’m drunk. Three hour advertising lunches can do that to you. And also that you’re an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/505 "2015-03-11T20:58:20Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > You are mistaken when you say “I thought”. You came to a conclusion after forming a feeling consistent with your idea of yourself as a decent person. Coming to a conclusion isn’t thought, especially when you haven’t even begun to think. Actually, I came to the conclusion that you’re a liar because, other than a “get your law or medical degree in a weekend for $199.00 USD” school, you’re just too “challenged” to cross any bridge that requires opening a book. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/506 "2015-03-11T21:09:20Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Oh, I should explain that I’m drunk. Three hour advertising lunches can do that to you. And also that you’re an asshole. No doubt, I’m a asshole, but, your a drunk, who will still be drunk who makes his living in advertising. I suppose you could sober up and get a job that isn’t subconsciously manipulating people’s emotions to fleece them of their money, but it is really more likely that I’ll stop being an asshole, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/507 "2015-03-11T21:13:41Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > but it is really more likely that I’ll stop being an asshole, isn’t it? If history is any precedent, I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/508 "2015-03-11T21:15:04Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Actually, I came to the conclusion that you’re a liar because, other than a “get your law or medical degree in a weekend for $199.00 USD” school, you’re just too “challenged” to cross any bridge that requires opening a book. And I still don’t care what you feel or fantasize about me. Except to the extent that you are such a miserable dick that I’d be a bit offended if you didn’t despise me. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/509 "2015-03-11T21:16:52Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > No doubt, I’m a asshole, but, your a drunk, who will still be drunk who makes his living in advertising. I suppose you could sober up and get a job that isn’t subconsciously manipulating people’s emotions to fleece them of their money, but it is really more likely that I’ll stop being an asshole, isn’t it? To paraphrase a quote: “I may be drunk, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be an asshole.” SS, you had a point- Monty \*was \*being a dick about his rude, coy and dancing on the grave comment about Opal. But you’re losing this war of words by simply doing the verbal equivalent of punching yourself in the face. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/510 "2015-03-11T21:21:14Z")
So, to sum up: “I don’t care what YOU think!” “Well, I don’t care what YOU think!” “Oh yeah? Well, I double dog don’t care what YOU think!” “Sez you! I triple dog don’t care what YOU think!” “HA! I can’t care what YOU think because YOU can’t think!” “My big brother’s next door neighbor’s DOG thinks better than YOU think!” “I would rather put out my own eyes with Charles Manson’s dirty toenails than care what YOU think!” “I would rather eat my own head with a bucket of mucus than care what YOU think!” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/511 "2015-03-11T21:23:35Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > So, to sum up: > > “I don’t care what YOU think!” > “Well, I don’t care what YOU think!” > “Oh yeah? Well, I double dog don’t care what YOU think!” > “Sez you! I triple dog don’t care what YOU think!” > “HA! I can’t care what YOU think because YOU can’t think!” > “My big brother’s next door neighbor’s DOG thinks better than YOU think!” > “I would rather put out my own eyes with Charles Manson’s dirty toenails than care what YOU think!” > “I would rather eat my own head with a bucket of mucus than care what YOU think!” Schwartz:\* Well I double-DOG-dare ya!\* Ralphie as Adult: [narrating] _NOW it was serious. A double-dog-dare. What else was there but a “triple dare you”? And then, the coup de grace of all dares, the sinister triple-dog-dare._ Schwartz: _I TRIPLE-dog-dare ya!_ Ralphie as Adult: [narrating]\* Schwartz created a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat!\* ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/512 "2015-03-11T21:26:18Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > No doubt, I’m a asshole, but, your a drunk, who will still be drunk who makes his living in advertising. I suppose you could sober up and get a job that isn’t subconsciously manipulating people’s emotions to fleece them of their money, but it is really more likely that I’ll stop being an asshole, isn’t it? Cool, I’ll enjoy my paid for 3-hour steak and wine lunches and people can keep buying Chevy’s and we’ll all be happier. Except for you because you’re a miserable person. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/513 "2015-03-11T21:29:27Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Oh, I should explain that I’m drunk. … LOL, Best line/username combo ever. I’m sending you 2 internets for this contribution. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/514 "2015-03-11T21:40:53Z")
Because nothing says “quality conversation” like drunk assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/515 "2015-03-11T21:42:50Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > A very good friend of mine who is a rabit 3rd-wave feminist Stop right there! Does your rabit have air conditioning? WE MUST KNOW! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/516 "2015-03-11T21:47:11Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Incidentally, “rabit” should probably be spelled “rabid” > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > No doubt, I’m a asshole, but, **your** a drunk, \*you’re ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/517 "2015-03-11T21:48:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > To paraphrase a quote: “I may be drunk, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be an asshole.” That was Churchill’s reply to Lady Astor re ugly. And her comeback should have been, “no Winston, you’ll be drunk again tomorrow. In the morning.” And she should have been right. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/518 "2015-03-11T21:50:47Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > That was Churchill’s reply to Lady Astor re ugly. And her comeback should have been, “no Winston, you’ll be drunk again tomorrow. In the morning.” And she should have been right. But you’re no Churchill… fuck- you’re not even a Lady Astor. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/519 "2015-03-11T21:56:40Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > LOL, Best line/username combo ever. I’m sending you 2 internets for this contribution. Heh, it’s actually a play on the name of one of my favorite photographers, Garry Winogrand. But also sometimes at work I get to day drink a lot on somebody else’s dime. Thanks TV stations that want my client’s money! If you watch Mad Men, I’m basically Harry Crane. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/520 "2015-03-11T22:28:58Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > And the person making degrading references to tits in this thread would be Morgenstern, not me. And the person who referred to posters as “catty bitches” was _you_, dumb-fuck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=27)