# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/41 "2015-03-02T23:10:57Z")
I was around back in the AOL SD days when Opalcat first appeared on the scene. Both Monty and I were SD chat hosts then. I guess it boils down to this… she’s not around to defend herself so we’d just as soon not go into details or give examples. It doesn’t feel _right_ to do otherwise. Can we just leave it as she wasn’t universally beloved? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/42 "2015-03-02T23:28:40Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Christ, what an imagination I’ve got. No, no. You’re a figment of _my_ imagination. I must be a sick bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/43 "2015-03-02T23:57:33Z")
I only met her briefly in real life exactly once. She lived fairly close to me for a while in Massachusetts not that long before she died. After I met her, she kept asking me out for dinner and I said I would go but I could never get her to agree on any details. Any suggestion I made had some problem that was a deal-breaker. I never could figure out why she wanted to go to dinner with me anyway. It was fairly obvious that we didn’t have much in common besides this board but I was still willing to have a conversation with her in person. We never did come up with a plan that she liked so I just gave up after a few months of sporadic attempts to come up with something. Then she moved and died shortly thereafter. I don’t know if I could have helped her in some small way or if I dodged a bullet myself and will never know. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/44 "2015-03-03T00:04:29Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > I was around back in the AOL SD days when Opalcat first appeared on the scene. Both Monty and I were SD chat hosts then. Why the 14-year (?) gap before you registered here? Just curious, like. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/45 "2015-03-03T00:28:24Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > I guess it boils down to this… she’s not around to defend herself so we’d just as soon not go into details or give examples. It doesn’t feel _right_ to do otherwise. Can we just leave it as she wasn’t universally beloved? “Not universally beloved” is a label that can be applied to approximately everyone ever. One might expect that if it doesn’t feel _right_ to give details it might not be _right_ to make the accusations in the first place. Being as Opal’s not only not around, as you say, to defend herself, she’s never again going to be able to practice whatever backstabbing behavior we’re suddenly coy about. Might be time to let it go. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/46 "2015-03-03T00:36:34Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > I was around back in the AOL SD days when Opalcat first appeared on the scene. Both Monty and I were SD chat hosts then. > > I guess it boils down to this… she’s not around to defend herself so we’d just as soon not go into details or give examples. It doesn’t feel _right_ to do otherwise. Can we just leave it as she wasn’t universally beloved? She was universally beloved by all the human beings that knew her. Monty just appears to be human. He’s into defending rapists. And smearing the name of the dead without any evidence. > [@Monty](#): > > Decided to take **Morgenstern** ’s advice. > > The Second Stone: In addition to being a delusional troll, you’re a piece of shit. I’m never going to forget that you’ve accused me and others, absolutely without evidence, of defending rapists. Go to Hell. There’s a whole thread of evidence. You may review it or not at your leisure. I hope you never forget what a huge rape defending dick you are. Long after you are dead and gone, I’ll be pointing out your defense of Bill Cosby and attacks on OpalCat without specifics.\* May you wake up each morning to discover that you must consciously spend all day, every day, with yourself. 1. Your lying, rape defending self. 2. Your smear the name of the beloved deceased self. 3. Hi Opal, hope you are in heaven so you won’t ever have to cross paths with Monty. > [@Morgenstern](#): > > I really didn’t realize what a total diaperload you were before this post. Likewise. Really, do we need any more evidence of what disgusting beings you two are? \*Hey everyone, is it just me, or does Monty malign Opal without any evidence at all, having previously claimed that the women (now 37, six more than Baskin-Robins flavors on sale at any one time) who expose themselves to ridicule by coming forwards and accusing of rape aren’t “evidence”? The only thing consistent about Monty is treating women as unrespectable. Shit dude, George Zimmerman speaks about women better than you do. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/47 "2015-03-03T00:37:36Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Horse shit. > > If she earned his enmity then he has every right to point that fact out in a conversation about her. This is a silly little message board and you are a silly little poster on it, he has zero obligation to you or anybody else to explain the reasons for that enmity. No one’s arguing he has a _responsibility_ to elaborate. They’re saying that by not elaborating he’s making himself look very bad. He has no responsibility not to look bad. It’s up to him how he wants to look. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/48 "2015-03-03T00:41:01Z")
Grow a pair and back up your claim, hotshot. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/49 "2015-03-03T00:47:05Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I only met her briefly in real life exactly once. She lived fairly close to me for a while in Massachusetts not that long before she died. After I met her, she kept asking me out for dinner and I said I would go but I could never get her to agree on any details. **Any suggestion I made had some problem that was a deal-breaker.** I never could figure out why she wanted to go to dinner with me anyway. It was fairly obvious that we didn’t have much in common besides this board but I was still willing to have a conversation with her in person. We never did come up with a plan that she liked so I just gave up after a few months of sporadic attempts to come up with something. Then she moved and died shortly thereafter. I don’t know if I could have helped her in some small way or if I dodged a bullet myself and will never know. Bolded part mine. If I recall correctly that was Opals modus operandi…and what she was infamous for here. Any solution to any problem was always found to have a flaw or was somehow unacceptable. And again, IIRC, some folks got tired of trying to help out and eventually got a little pissy (understandably) about it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/50 "2015-03-03T00:48:14Z")
Alright, that wasn’t a link to the Monty defends Bill Cosby rape thread, that was a link to a 1999 thread where someone went all huge dick on someone else (names removed) over their supposed incompetence at managing a _completely different message board._ Seems being a huge dick is only something that gets frickin’ weirder and rapey-er with age. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/51 "2015-03-03T00:51:04Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > I was around back in the AOL SD days when Opalcat first appeared on the scene. Both Monty and I were SD chat hosts then. > > I guess it boils down to this… she’s not around to defend herself so we’d just as soon not go into details or give examples. It doesn’t feel _right_ to do otherwise. Can we just leave it as she wasn’t universally beloved? **Jeff** , I remember you from the early days of this board, and in a generally good way. And sure, **Opal** wasn’t universally beloved. She could be a really good person, but she was frequently a first-class pain in the neck. Like i said, I’m not here to defend her honor. But it was too late to just leave it at “wasn’t universally beloved” once **Monty** made the remark I quoted in the OP. She _already_ wasn’t around to defend herself when he said that. All I see is a coward who’s trying to have it both ways, getting a good slam in on **Opal** , and then using the fact that she’s not with us anymore as an excuse to just leave it hanging there. **Opal** ’s dead and not coming back, but **Monty** is still a gutless chickenshit in the here and now. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/52 "2015-03-03T00:53:54Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > **Opal** ’s dead and not coming back, but **Monty** is still a gutless chickenshit in the here and now. The difference between Monty and chickenshit is that chickenshit can be useful as fertilizer. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/53 "2015-03-03T00:59:50Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > If I recall correctly that was Opals modus operandi…and what she was infamous for here. > > Any solution to any problem was always found to have a flaw or was somehow unacceptable. > > And again, IIRC, some folks got tired of trying to help out and eventually got a little pissy (understandably) about it. No question about that, that was one of the biggest reasons why she wasn’t universally beloved. Even though I met her numerous times IRL and generally liked her, it would drive me up the wall when she did that. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/54 "2015-03-03T01:00:35Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > The difference between Monty and chickenshit is that chickenshit can be useful as fertilizer. Your cluelessness is such that you’d fall into a bucket of tits and come out sucking your thumb. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/55 "2015-03-03T01:02:09Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > The difference between Monty and chickenshit is that chickenshit can be useful as fertilizer. Well, **Monty** _could_ be useful as fertilizer, but it would be illegal and immoral to bring him to that state prematurely. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/56 "2015-03-03T01:18:01Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > She was universally beloved by all the human beings that knew her. Are you shitting me? Calling this hyperbole is generous. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/57 "2015-03-03T01:25:22Z")
In the red corner, dead and buried in the ground and unable to defend herself, we have Opalcat! And in the blue corner, everyone who she ever pissed off and were just waiting for a chance to dance on her grave. Playing the part of the referee tonight will be the folks who knew her just well enough to like her. _DING DING_ ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/58 "2015-03-03T01:45:36Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > In the red corner, dead and buried in the ground and unable to defend herself, we have Opalcat! > > And in the blue corner, everyone who she ever pissed off and were just waiting for a chance to dance on her grave. > > Playing the part of the referee tonight will be the folks who knew her just well enough to like her. > > _DING DING_ Horse. Shit. It probably makes you feel superior to spout disingenuous stuff like this. Fine. And I have no desire to dance on her grave. Nor did I know her IRL, but I did exchange a lot of PMs with her. The drama she made on this board was hers and hers alone. I’m very sad she is no longer with us but _as a poster_ she deserves being held up to her posts. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/59 "2015-03-03T02:09:18Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Why the 14-year (?) gap before you registered here? Just curious, like. I suspect that this was [Ranger Jeff’s original name](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php), but I can’t say for sure. If it is, he should have them linked up so that he can join the 99ers. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/60 "2015-03-03T02:21:33Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Are you shitting me? Calling this hyperbole is generous. Human beings, not goat felching intellectual Ponzi schemers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=4)