# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/621 "2015-03-13T18:53:51Z")
_De mortuis nil nisi bonum_ is often bullshit (we shouldn’t speak ill of Hitler because he’s dead?) but it’s not a bad rule when it comes to Joe or Jill Doakes. Or we could dig her up and throw stones at her. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/622 "2015-03-13T19:00:31Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > 712 views I feel silly explaining this to you, you being a lawyer and thus presumably a practiced arguer, but “getting the last word” means a word related to the subject at hand. If I say “the Iraq war was largely successful” and you answer “Route 66!” then you didn’t have the last word. Your welcome. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/623 "2015-03-13T19:03:08Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Your welcome. Fish and houseguests. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/624 "2015-03-13T19:03:43Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > _De mortuis nil nisi bonum_ is often bullshit (we shouldn’t speak ill of Hitler because he’s dead?) but it’s not a bad rule when it comes to Joe or Jill Doakes. > > Or we could dig her up and throw stones at her. Whatever. Who are Joe or Jill Doakes? As for Opal, nothing referred to in any of the links justifies any of the venom directed her way. The jerks doing this are just assholes who complain bitterly when called on being jerk assholes. Screw 'em. From what I’ve seen here, they are the sort of incredibly nasty people who talk ill of the dead in a public place where her family can see for no other reason than that they had an argument with her two decades ago. When called on it they summon their other jerk asshole buddies to complain that it is okay to demean the deceased in a public forum because ‘jerks and assholes’. None of the deceased members or guests of this message board deserve to have their online personas trashed in a public forum, and decent people don’t do that. By definition, the people who have done that here aren’t decent people. Comparing the deceased to Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot who should be spoken ill of is just stupid. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/625 "2015-03-13T19:04:33Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > 712 views Whereas this thread has 28,258 views as of now. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/626 "2015-03-13T19:17:20Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > Whereas this thread has 28,258 views as of now. Nothing but net! Nice one, E! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/627 "2015-03-13T19:19:29Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Who are Joe or Jill Doakes? > > As for Opal, nothing referred to in any of the links justifies any of the venom directed her way. The jerks doing this are just assholes who complain bitterly when called on being jerk assholes. Screw 'em. From what I’ve seen here, they are the sort of incredibly nasty people who talk ill of the dead in a public place where her family can see for no other reason than that they had an argument with her two decades ago. When called on it they summon their other jerk asshole buddies to complain that it is okay to demean the deceased in a public forum because ‘jerks and assholes’. > > None of the deceased members or guests of this message board deserve to have their online personas trashed in a public forum, and decent people don’t do that. By definition, the people who have done that here aren’t decent people. Comparing the deceased to Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot who should be spoken ill of is just stupid. Normally, I don’t use the same comment twice especially when, as in your case, there’s so much to work with. But in all honesty, you really are a clueless boob, so clueless in fact, that if you fell into a bucket of tits, you’d come out sucking your thumb. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/628 "2015-03-13T19:28:25Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Normally, I don’t use the same comment twice especially when, as in your case, there’s so much to work with. But in all honesty, you really are a clueless boob, so clueless in fact, that if you fell into a bucket of tits, you’d come out sucking your thumb. And you, sir, are willfully disgusting. Your go-to insult remain offensively violent and sexist. You have less intelligence and couth than Louie Gohmert. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/629 "2015-03-13T19:36:11Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > And you, sir, are willfully disgusting. Your go-to insult remain offensively violent and sexist. You have less intelligence and couth than Louie Gohmert. And you have yet to explain the reasoning that leads you to deem the joke “offensively violent and sexist.” ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/630 "2015-03-13T19:53:44Z")
> [@andros](#): > > And you have yet to explain the reasoning that leads you to deem the joke “offensively violent and sexist.” And you could always change “tits” to “dicks”. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/631 "2015-03-13T19:55:03Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > And you, sir, are willfully disgusting. Your go-to insult remain offensively violent and sexist. You have less intelligence and couth than Louie Gohmert. At least it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/632 "2015-03-13T19:58:17Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > And you could always change “tits” to “dicks”. Let me try that. **TSS** , you’re so clueless you’d fall in a bucket of dicks and come out in love. Does’t quite fit his clueless image. I’ll leave it as it was. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/633 "2015-03-13T19:59:15Z")
I would think that referring to a person being in a bucket of tits would be self-explanatory on why it is sexist and disgusting. Tits belong on people, not removed from people and in a bucket where someone is for some reason, trapped with the disembodied parts. It is an objectification of those parts, presumably removed from people, normally women when referring to “tits”, particularly since the “tits” are implied to be human objects of suckling, which is either an act of an infant feeding or of sexual gratification, which is to be presumed since it is compared to thumb sucking as a form of self-gratification. Why would body parts be in a bucket if not for some sick mutilator? Why would a person be in such a bucket? Why would a person in such a bucket not seek to merely escape, but instead, seek to suck his/her thumb, rather than the “tits”. It’s just an all around disgusting, despicable, inhuman and sexist metaphor, one that Morgenstern has thought appropriate to fling twice in a thread that has nothing to do otherwise with tits, buckets, thumbs or suckling. Using such a phrase is the sign of a disturbed, sexist, sick fuck. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/634 "2015-03-13T20:01:26Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Let me try that. > > **TSS** , you’re so clueless you’d fall in a bucket of dicks and come out in love. > > Does’t quite fit his clueless image. I’ll leave it as it was. And you are so disgusting that you would repeatedly malign the dead and repeatedly describe people falling into buckets of body parts. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/635 "2015-03-13T20:03:31Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I would think that referring to a person being in a bucket of tits would be self-explanatory on why it is sexist and disgusting. Tits belong on people, not removed from people and in a bucket where someone is for some reason, trapped with the disembodied parts. It is an objectification of those parts, presumably removed from people, normally women when referring to “tits”, particularly since the “tits” are implied to be human objects of suckling, which is either an act of an infant feeding or of sexual gratification, which is to be presumed since it is compared to thumb sucking as a form of self-gratification. Why would body parts be in a bucket if not for some sick mutilator? Why would a person be in such a bucket? Why would a person in such a bucket not seek to merely escape, but instead, seek to suck his/her thumb, rather than the “tits”. It’s just an all around disgusting, despicable, inhuman and sexist metaphor, one that Morgenstern has thought appropriate to fling twice in a thread that has nothing to do otherwise with tits, buckets, thumbs or suckling. Using such a phrase is the sign of a disturbed, sexist, sick fuck. But talking about catty bitches and butt buddies, nothing wrong with that, huh? A bucket of tits is, I’ll admit, a rather gross image if you think about it too hard. Of course, we know that can’t be your problem with it. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/636 "2015-03-13T20:03:56Z")
Arguing with **TSS** is like beating a dead horse. Oh god, does that mean that I hate all animals now? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/637 "2015-03-13T20:04:49Z")
You know, an actual bucket filled with surgically removed breasts would indeed be disgusting. That is why a bucket of tits is being used as a joke, sorta like a pickup truck bed of dead babies. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/638 "2015-03-13T20:05:30Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Arguing with **TSS** is like beating a dead horse. > > Oh god, does that mean that I hate all animals now? You disgust me. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/639 "2015-03-13T20:06:13Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > And you are so disgusting that you would repeatedly malign the dead and repeatedly describe people falling into buckets of body parts. Good lord, maybe you’ll find a bucket of brains to fall in and come out able to climb stairs. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/640 "2015-03-13T20:07:04Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Good lord, maybe you’ll find a bucket of brains to fall in and come out able to climb stairs. Misigorist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=33)