# Hey Monty, what's the deal about Opal stabbing people in the back IRL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034 "2015-03-02T19:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/161 "2015-03-04T15:49:04Z")
> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > Possibly worth noting (but probably not, given the history) is that shortly after that online spat between Monty and Opal, that [Monty extended an olive branch](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=19405). Did **Monty** once go by “Chip?” ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/162 "2015-03-04T15:50:23Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Yes, I know where we are. But your hyperbolic “shtick” is not limited to this one forum. Yeah, you go _particularly_ off-the-rails here but like I said, it’s your “schtick”. It’s who you are here. **TSS** is just a little fellow with big anger issues and a small mind. Just accept him as “special” and let it be. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/163 "2015-03-04T15:56:36Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > Did **Monty** once go by “Chip?” You know who else once went by " Chip?" Godwin! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/164 "2015-03-04T16:14:25Z")
> [@AncientHumanoid](#): > > You know who else once went by " Chip?" > > Godwin! I knew Chip Godwin, and he was no Adolf Hitler! ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/165 "2015-03-04T16:44:30Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > Did **Monty** once go by “Chip?” Not as a user name, just a sig line. During one of the board conversions, a lot of names were lost. That’s why his name is blank in this one as well as the earlier 1999 thread. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/166 "2015-03-04T17:03:54Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > So in summary, drug and fuck as many incapacitated women as you want, guys. Or if you prefer kids, bang your way through the whole playground. It’s not rape if you never get convicted! I was kind of on the fence about this but if you say it’s cool then I’m down. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/167 "2015-03-04T17:10:00Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > Did **Monty** once go by “Chip?” To be fair, it was the expressway and Chip was only driving sixty miles an hour. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/168 "2015-03-04T17:13:17Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > This is the Pit, and these are not debates. Bill Cosby as a rapist is a fact. Global warming is a scientifically proven fact. That Montycrantz and Morgenstern are misogynists (and whiny turds) is a fact. You don’t debate facts with trolls, you present facts and humiliate trolls. This tread is a pitting of Monty for his habit of attacking people without any basis and holding weird grudges for decades. It is what he does. He is a mean little fuck and so are his traveling buddies that go from thread to thread whining about how unfair it is to him to be called on his grudge holding. This isn’t a debate, it’s a smack down. So up yours and horse you rode in on. This may be a “smack down”, but it appears \*you \*are the one getting the “smack down”- and in fact you are doing it to yourself. Sure, Monty made\*\* a\*\* stupid post. \*All \*of your posts are full of froth laden invective and mindless drivel. All you are doing is making Monty look good. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/169 "2015-03-04T17:17:07Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > So in summary, drug and fuck as many incapacitated women as you want, guys. Or if you prefer kids, bang your way through the whole playground. It’s not rape if you never get convicted! So, you are now _in favor_ of rape and child molestation, eh? And even encourage it? And you think _Cosby’s_ fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/170 "2015-03-04T17:40:18Z")
A pox on all you mofos for putting that goddamned Frozen song in my head. Allayalls need to take Idina’s advice. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/171 "2015-03-04T17:52:27Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > No, I’m not a lawyer, not sure you have me mixed up with. With yourself, being basically a mini- **Bricker** in some threads I’ve seen you in. But glad we got that settled. > [@](#): > > And I consider it a _moral_ right not to be considered as a criminal based on unsupported decades-old memories, by the state or by an individual. I consider a number of things to be moral rights that won’t come to pass, this side of the resurrection of the dead. Others disagree with me. I think you’re in the same position, just with respect to different moral rights. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/172 "2015-03-04T18:47:09Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > No, I’m not a lawyer, not sure you have me mixed up with. > > And I consider it a _moral_ right not to be considered as a criminal based on unsupported decades-old memories, by the state or by an individual. It was Cosby who got me to rethink that position. Cosby is protected from trial by a statute of limitations. (And to make it relevant to this thread, Opal out to be protected from Monty’s decades old vague grudge for the same reasons.) But outside a courtroom, isn’t the victim socially allowed to hold on to her version of events? Not pretend that the person is innocent? Victims’ family? At what point do clear minded members of the public avoid having drinks with Bill Cosby? 5 victims with similar events? 10? 20? 30? 37? We never gave Moammar Quadaffi this presumption of innocence. Saddam Hussein. This guy isn’t Dr. Cliff Huxtable, he’s Dr. Bill Cosby. Yeah, in a courtroom under criminal charges he is entitled to a presumption of innocence, but not anywhere else. This isn’t a situation where one, two or three women got together and may be making it up because they are crazy or greedy. It’s 37, none of whom will get money out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/173 "2015-03-04T19:00:18Z")
Just to clarify then, is it your contention that the good and honest burghers of Salem were justified in their actions according to the prevailing standards in the late 17th century? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/174 "2015-03-04T19:35:04Z")
Now you’re making me hungry. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/175 "2015-03-04T19:40:06Z")
> [@AncientHumanoid](#): > > Now you’re making me hungry. Mmmm… burghers of Salem… ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/176 "2015-03-04T19:53:40Z")
I relish your thoughts on this subject. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/177 "2015-03-04T19:55:44Z")
I feel like I should put a plug in for the game Town of Salem. I love it, and it’s free. ---
**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/178 "2015-03-04T20:21:08Z")
> [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](#): > > I relish your thoughts on this subject. You know, someone pointed out yesterday that cheesy puns are not welcome here. If you haven’t read the whole thread yet, you should take some time to ketchup on it. So lettuce enjoy this thread with no more puns, please. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/179 "2015-03-04T20:22:30Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > What babble juice are you on? _Man_, those are good drugs- and you arent even sharing. Selfish bastard. You, sir, think that the lyrics to “Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah” somehow reference Tennyson and/or Homer. I daresay you don’t need ANYONE to share with you. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034/180 "2015-03-04T20:32:11Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You, sir, think that the lyrics to “Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah” somehow reference Tennyson and/or Homer. I daresay you don’t need ANYONE to share with you. I’ll have you know I had a lot of rather esteemed company on that particular drug trip, \*thankyouverymuch. \*😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-monty-whats-the-deal-about-opal-stabbing-people-in-the-back-irl/714034.md?page=10)