# Hey movie, you have not solved the problem! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 19, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083 "2015-10-19T01:09:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/61 "2015-10-21T15:17:28Z")
I feel like in _X-men: days of future past_ that they not only didn’t solve the problem their actions should have made everything a lot worse. The whole idea was to stop Mystique from killing this one dude and so prevent mutant genocide in the future. So the entire world would go crazy because one mutant shot one guy that one time. So in the finale, in front of a global audience, Magneto drops a frikking stadium on the White House and because Mystique ultimately decides to not shoot the guy everything’s fine, I guess. Nothing at all problematic with just one mutant being capable of dropping a stadium on the White house. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/62 "2015-10-21T15:55:54Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > **A Raisin in the Sun**. The main story line is a Black family about to move into a white neighborhood. The neighborhood association sends someone to pay them off, but they tell him to kiss off and leave to go to their new home. > > Only the neighborhood association is still around and isn’t going to just fold. The Black family is still in for trouble. Coincidentally I just watched this last night. The issue of the neighborhood association still remaining isn’t ignored, it is explicitly cited, by Linder as he leaves. “I hope you folks know what you’re getting into” It is by design that the Younger family have a tough road ahead, (how are they going to make the $125/month mortgage payments?) What is important is the Walter kept his dignity and grew into his own as the head of the family, rather than simply taking the easy way out. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/63 "2015-10-21T18:57:16Z")
> [@HubZilla](#): > > _Precious_: Yeah, she’s liberated from her abusive mother. But she’s a teenage single mother of two, one with downs syndrome. In the ghetto with minimal education. > > _Ferris Bueller_: Granted, it’s a secondary plot line, but I see no way Cameron’s confrontation with his father ends well. The win for Cameron is not beating his dad in the confrontation, he know that he is going to lose that. The win is that there will BE a confrontation and that for once in his life his father will have to acknowledge him and deal with him as a person, even if it is negative for Cameron it is still better than not at all. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/64 "2015-10-21T19:03:51Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > The win for Cameron is not beating his dad in the confrontation, he know that he is going to lose that. The win is that there will BE a confrontation and that for once in his life his father will have to acknowledge him and deal with him as a person, even if it is negative for Cameron it is still better than not at all. Yup, it’s the ‘Any Attention is Good Attention (even if it’s Bad Attention)’. The point is that attention is needed and not being attained. NOW he’ll get some attention and possibly, it might wake up his father to his existence and needs. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/65 "2015-10-21T20:17:30Z")
**True Lies** –spoiler alert!–ends with Ahnold smooching his wife in front of a mushroom cloud backdrop. The terrorists weren’t able to set off the nuclear bomb to kill everyone–WIN! Ahnold and his wife, exposed to hideous levels of radiation, die within weeks. The Florida Keys ecosystem is devastated. Thousands of tourists also suffer from radiation sickness. ---
**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/66 "2015-10-22T17:30:19Z")
Okay, so I’m going to reference an earlier post of mine that pretty much went nowhere. And I’ll do so by invoking not just a movie but a pentalogy\*: Clint Eastwood’s Man With No Name. At the end of the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (GBU) Tuco has a hundred thousand dollars in gold coins, Angel-Eyes (Col. Mortimer from A Few Dollars More) is a permanent resident of Sad Hill Cemetery, and “Blondie” has another $100K in Confederate gold. What he’ll do with it is anybody’s guess, but we see him again in Lago/Hell (High Plains Drifter) and later in Carbon County (Pale Rider).\* I realize GBU is more of an episodic movie than a conflict -\> resolution story, but it seems to me that while Tuco is $100K richer (and during the late 1800’s that was quite a lot of money; now you can’t buy a house in California with such a pittance) he’s still a VERY wanted criminal in just about every county on the planet and his face is plastered on walls (with a bounty written below it) in every town in the West and South (and probably Mexico, as well). And nothing has changed his lying, thieving, raping, double-crossing [et cetera for three more pages] personality and (IMHO) even getting suddenly rich isn’t going to change who he is. And, speaking of his new wealth, people are going to wonder why a citizen of old Mexico is overloaded with Confederate gold coins – weren’t they stamped or marked somehow? Every coin made from Mesopotamia onward has been marked somehow! So the Bad is vanquished and the Good rides off, but what happens to Tuco, the Ugly one? Does he just retire and lead a quiet life of fascinating luxury, regaling unwitting friends and neighbors with outlandish stories of adventure while generally abstaining from alcohol – unless it’s Dos Equis beer? –G! \*This is not canon; I originally went by the movie production dates, but a bit of research tells me GBU was intended as a prequel to the Dollars series which, in book format, heads in a different direction. However, I’m talking mainly about GBU in this post. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/67 "2015-10-22T19:38:30Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > **Paths of Glory** – (spoilers) – Three innocent men get executed, but at least their commanding officer got his due. Unfortunately, the higher Brass assumed that Kirk Douglas’ Colonel Dax was only defending the men and pointing out his superior’s flaws in order to advance his own career, _and applauded him for doing it_. They didn’t really have a problem with the executions. So things will continue going the way they have. It’s been a long time since I saw that excellent movie, but I always felt that the fact that nothing had changed was part of the tragic nature of the movie and commentary on the nature of men and war, not unfinished business on the part of the writers and directors. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/68 "2015-10-22T20:28:29Z")
> [@bump](#): > > It’s been a long time since I saw that excellent movie, but I always felt that the fact that nothing had changed was part of the tragic nature of the movie and commentary on the nature of men and war, not unfinished business on the part of the writers and directors. I said as much in my post. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/69 "2015-10-22T20:33:51Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I said as much in my post. I think I misinterpreted what you were getting at- I thought you were saying that since things were going on the way they were, that the movie hadn’t solved the problem… and that it was a problem from your perspective. And… **Left Hand of Dorkness** , in general, the prompt radiation radius out of a nuclear weapon is well within the lethal heat/blast radii, except on very small nukes. Either way, at the range that they were at (far enough to avoid any heat and blast), prompt radiation wouldn’t be an issue. Fallout maybe, if the wind was blowing the right way. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/70 "2015-10-22T23:53:49Z")
Miss Gulch was the Wicked Witch of the West, she’s already been dealt with. You literally see her change shape in the movie, before ever getting to OZ, so it’s not just Dorothy’s mind making people in Oz look like people she knew like the farmhands. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/71 "2015-10-23T01:54:16Z")
> [@Apocalypso](#): > > could have talked to E.T. while he was healthy and well instead of being poisoned by that damn candy. 🙂 > [@Apocalypso](#): > > healthy and well instead of being poisoned by that damn candy. 😕 > [@Apocalypso](#): > > poisoned by that damn candy. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/72 "2015-10-23T02:23:41Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I think I misinterpreted what you were getting at- I thought you were saying that since things were going on the way they were, that the movie hadn’t solved the problem… and that it was a problem from your perspective. > > And… **Left Hand of Dorkness** , in general, the prompt radiation radius out of a nuclear weapon is well within the lethal heat/blast radii, except on very small nukes. > > Either way, at the range that they were at (far enough to avoid any heat and blast), prompt radiation wouldn’t be an issue. Fallout maybe, if the wind was blowing the right way. Huh. Learn something new every day. Thanks! I assume the fallout killed them, then. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083/73 "2015-10-23T02:24:12Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > As pointed out on an episode of _The Big Bang Theory_, Indiana Jones wasn’t really needed in _Raiders of the Lost Ark_. The nazis would still have opened the Ark and gotten wiped out by God’s wrath. The Ark is still lost at the end of the movie, only this time lost in bureaucratic limbo. Worse than that: the Nazis didn’t know where the Ark was and never would have found it if Indy hadn’t led them right to it! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-movie-you-have-not-solved-the-problem/735083.md?page=3)