# Hey, OKC Dopers!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 20, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868 "2013-05-20T21:07:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/41 "2013-05-21T04:30:37Z")

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So Lute, after 24,292 posts you still don’t know how to write an informative post title?

Can someone clue him in?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/42 "2013-05-21T04:30:58Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> If you’re outdoors and you see a storm coming and the lighting is bright emerald green that is a refraction of the light through hail. Most thunderstorms have hail inside them but if you see an intense green that is a sign of a powerful storm. Time to take shelter.

Indeed.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/43 "2013-05-21T04:33:37Z")

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Not my fault that the edited title didn’t show up on the thread list.

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**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/44 "2013-05-21T04:40:37Z")

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I don’t believe Tinker AFB was hit this time. I drove just to the east of there to get home and didn’t see any damage. Haven’t heard of any storm damage in Del City or Midwest City so far.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/45 "2013-05-21T04:59:49Z")

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RE: The choppers - great pilots, very good ideas of where the storms are going, being in the safe areas compared to that, and good camera systems. The Ch 4 guy said that at one point he was within a mile in 60 mph inflow winds and that he was just hitting his uncomfortable point.

> [@redtail23](#):
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> I don’t believe Tinker AFB was hit this time. I drove just to the east of there to get home and didn’t see any damage. Haven’t heard of any storm damage in Del City or Midwest City so far.

My friends teach there. No damage beyond typical thunder storm stuff.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/46 "2013-05-21T05:03:26Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> Another Okie doper here. We’re quite a bit southwest of Moore but I’ve got friends and relatives near the path. I’m still waiting to hear about them. From the National Weather Service track, I think they should be OK but the waiting is awful.

Have you checked the Red Cross page [Safe and Well](http://www.safeandwell.org)?

**To donate to the Red Cross for victims of this disaster:**

> **[American Red Cross of Oklahoma](https://www.redcross.org/local/oklahoma.html)**
>
> The American Red Cross serving Oklahoma provides vital services to communities across the state.

or text REDCROSS to 90999 to make a $10 donation.

**To donate to the local food bank:**

> **[Homepage - Regional Food Bank of Oklahoma](https://www.regionalfoodbank.org)**
>
> The Regional Food Bank is leading the fight against hunger in Oklahoma and envisions a state where no one goes hungry.

or text FOOD to 32333 to make a $10 donation.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/47 "2013-05-21T05:05:28Z")

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In the last half hour the reported number of dead kids has gone from 20 to 7, which is… good? Weird to say that 7 dead kids (for now, anyway) is a good thing but it’s better than 20. Still, I continue, as always, to wish the news would worry less about being first and more about getting reliable information. I’m stupid emotional for no reason as it is, the giant “20 DEAD KIDS” at the bottom of my television screen isn’t helping.

Ugh, I’m going to bed. 😕 I think 24 hour “news” networks are ruining every single thing.

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**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/48 "2013-05-21T05:22:22Z")

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A quick check-in: all are well. Deep breath of relief.

But, 20 kids dead?!?! I got in a near-fist fight with the parent of four kids I drive to/from school every day (he and Mom have no driver’s license. The elem school here was sending kids home early if they had a ride to come get them. I called Dad (a Mexican National on expired papers, long story for later maybe) to make sure someone would be home so I could go pick them up. Dad said he would call and take care of it. Turns out he only asked if school would keep them all day - so that he and wife could go run errands, I found out the kids were still there at school about 10 minutes before school let out, AND A TORNADO WAS ON GROUND NEARBY. Oh the motherfucgger. I was on way out door to go get 'em and drive away from storm but then Dad pulled in my driveway wanting to argue that I never told him kids could come home. He actually wanted to argue, in his barely-spoken English, that I never told him to get kids home early. He would not move his t ruck so _I_ could leave and I was literally trying to get past him to take HIS truck. He finally got the message as the hail began - and he/kids spent a good while hiding at the school. Principal was NOT happy with him to say the least.

When I learned of all the kids deaths, I printed out a translated story for him and yelled at him for much too long. I think he got the point of his idiocy and that he is lucky I did not eviscerate him then and there. I’m still shaking thinking about it as I love those kids as if they were my own. Stupid ignorant parents who should not have kids under their control - and I had cancelled a meeting with Director of Dept Human Services (for child abuse) as the kids are malnourished, beaten-on, mom is xanax/narco junkie etc, etc…and then he pulls this shit of using school as a babysitter when most other kids were already outta there. This should prove interesting tomorrow when I get my ducks lined back up.

Its been a stressful day to say the least. At least no one here (or extended family elsewhere was hurt that I know of - and the schools are untouched. Phew! I have much to do to protect my Amigos, though. Its game-on with the parents - kids need a mommy/daddy (of which they already call my wife and I 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/49 "2013-05-21T05:46:55Z")

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> [@Ionizer](#):
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> Its been a stressful day to say the least.

I forgot to mention that another line of ‘rotating thunderstorms’ passed by us about an hour ago. No rest for the wicked, right?! Wife is scared to close her eyes and go to sleep right now as who knows if/when a third line of storms will form all of a sudden?! Mother Nature is SUCH a bitch, ain’t she!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/50 "2013-05-21T06:42:39Z")

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At least 91 confirmed dead, 233 injured [according to officials](http://kfor.com/2013/05/20/at-least-37-killed-in-moore-tornado/).

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**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/51 "2013-05-21T10:56:29Z")

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AUGH - I wake up just now and find MORE rotating thunderstorms headed at me. HEAVY rain with shifting winds - not good for rescuers and those still trapped. The radar image is filled with the storm-symbols to worry about ☹ Gotta go wake everyone up now, just in case.

I can’t remember it ever being so steady in the threat of tornadoes for so long a period. Another long day of worry coming up.

I make another call for sending whatever aid anyone can (dollars or clothing, etc) to those needing it around Central OK and other areas affected. It ain’t over yet.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/52 "2013-05-21T11:13:11Z")

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Wow. Unreal.  
Stay safe and keep us informed.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/53 "2013-05-21T12:31:12Z")

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I am wondering about other areas, other states. Hard to find out anything besides local right now, even the national feeds I’m getting are centered on OKC.

I saw weather radar yesterday in several states. What happened?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/54 "2013-05-21T12:35:55Z")

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> **[Willie Nelson](https://www.facebook.com/WillieNelson/posts/10151691041368453)**
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> Sending prayers to OK we drove that highway last night. Please text to donate $10:
> STORM to 80888 for Salvation Army 
> REDCROSS to 90999 for The Red Cross
> FOOD to 32333 for Regional Food Bank of Oklahoma

> **[Regional Food Bank of Oklahoma](https://www.facebook.com/regionalfoodbank)**
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> Regional Food Bank of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. 26,338 likes · 133 talking about this · 18,279 were here. The Regional Food Bank is leading the fight against hunger in central and western...

Lots of stuff like this all over Facebook. Just search Oklahoma City, Moore, or Tornado relief

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/55 "2013-05-21T12:39:02Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> I am wondering about other areas, other states. Hard to find out anything besides local right now, even the national feeds I’m getting are centered on OKC.
> 
> I saw weather radar yesterday in several states. What happened?

There’s been a marked change in outlook since yesterday. Where things appeared to be headed for Missouri/Illinois late yesterday, now they look headed for Tennessee and more southerly spots. Local weather is calling for potential severe weather in Mid-TN by nightfall.

It’s hard to get consistent viewpoints. They all seem to be grasping at straws.

OK seems to be worst hit so far.

Stay safe, my man!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/56 "2013-05-21T12:42:59Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> There’s been a marked change in outlook since yesterday. Where things appeared to be headed for Missouri/Illinois late yesterday, now they look headed for Tennessee and more southerly spots. Local weather is calling for potential severe weather in Mid-TN by nightfall.
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> It’s hard to get consistent viewpoints. They all seem to be grasping at straws.
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> OK seems to be worst hit so far.
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> Stay safe, my man!

thank you

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/57 "2013-05-21T13:16:02Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> So Lute, after 24,292 posts you still don’t know how to write an informative post title?
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> Can someone clue him in?

By the time of your post, there were 28 responses to his thread. The fact that you didn’t connect “OKC” with “Oklahoma City” isn’t a huge error, but no need to try to blame him for it.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/58 "2013-05-21T14:30:32Z")

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Good [news](http://abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-tornado-deaths-revised-24-including-children/story?id=19222656): Death toll revised down to 24.

Thanks for the Tinker news.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/59 "2013-05-21T14:49:21Z")

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i think it remarkable that only 24 or up to 50 die from that storm.

response to tornado producing storms has improved. with populated areas expanding it finally has to. when populated areas being hit people started getting serious about it.

people have provided better shelters in home. people take better precautions.

the schools held children in rather than send them out in buses, that would get picked up and crushed in a tornado, to shelter in place. business and stores have created more shelters.

warnings given now have changed. in some previous recent events when people saw warnings they went to tv to watch or thought they would just keep an eye out. the warning now are not just ‘tornado warning’ they have changed it to ‘you are going to die if you don’t take shelter’. the weather service has changed warnings (in the central USA) to clearer impact warnings (what will happen to you if the serious weather event impacts you).

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okc-dopers/658868/60 "2013-05-21T14:52:57Z")

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> [@Noodles\_Fellicini](#):
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> That live feed is heartbreaking – a news reporter is with the “last four kids” that are unclaimed from one of the schools. He matter-of-factly asked an 8 year old why he thought his home was demolished and the poor little guy said that it was right behind the school so if the school was crushed he thought his house was too, and that his parents were both off work today. So the reporter asked him where he was going to stay, and the little boy says, “If my parents are still alive…” and the reporter stays in reporter mode instead of hugging him and telling him everything is going to be okay. And he can’t remember their names or ages, he keeps asking them, and the third grader seems a bit exasperated that he keeps having to repeat it. Poor little things, I hope their parents are okay and they are back in loving arms very soon.

I don’t think they should be allowed to interview children until the parents or a guardian gets there and gives them permission.

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