# Hey, Okrahoma...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 2, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390 "2017-07-02T20:54:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/21 "2017-07-02T23:58:46Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> _Is it ok to put little pepper on my shit before eating it??_

NO!

But you may use Sriracha. 😉

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/22 "2017-07-03T00:28:10Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> I’m not sure hypocrisy is against the rules. And if it were, we wouldn’t have any Republicans around here to mock. So, careful what you wish for!

That’s not simple hypocrisy. That’s pretending to hate something to elicit negative reactions except when that something supports your side. It’s the same sort of behavior that tripped up **december** , IIRC.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/23 "2017-07-03T00:38:03Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> One trick pony- praise the Dear Leader ceaselessly. Can’t wait to rub it in when his hero resigns.

The irony in this post is almost beyond funny. Tragic, actually. But you’ll never see it, which kind of brings it back to being funny again.

LOL.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/24 "2017-07-03T00:43:21Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I was thinking of doing a double Pitting of **Hurricane Ditka** and **Okrahoma**. They follow each other around and congratulate each other on their awesomeness. The thought occurs that “they” is socks of the same fellow.
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> Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya, “guys”.

I take exception to including **Hurricane Ditka** in with the likes of **Okrahoma**. At least **HD** is intelligent and capable of adult dialogue. If there were more conservatives here who were like him, this board would be better off.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/25 "2017-07-03T00:53:27Z")

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HurricaneDitka would be a better poster if he wasn’t playing the “Hurr de hurr, its funny to make you liberals angry” troll card.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/26 "2017-07-03T01:03:22Z")

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Exactly. Both of them admit they are here just to piss off liberals, rather than actually engage honestly. While other conservative posters engage in this a little bit at times, it’s at least in a “friendly rivalry” context.

No, we do not need any more “conservatives” like **HeweyLogan**. **Bricker** , **adaher** , **Shagnasty** , **Loach** , etc. Those are the types of conservatives we actually need. Conservatives willing to engage most of the time.

Yes, it does mean it’s really hard to get an actual Trump supporter on this board, but that’s not surprising, as he ran entirely on being able to piss people off, so of course his follwers are those types of people.

I went through and put any of the people talking about how happy they were that liberals were upset about Trump on ignore back in November, and I haven’t felt I missed anything yet.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/27 "2017-07-03T01:13:55Z")

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We don’t need any more posters like **adaher**.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/28 "2017-07-03T01:15:53Z")

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NM

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/29 "2017-07-03T01:36:00Z")

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Quick. Let’s act like we’re covertly overthrowing America with our liberal values and act completely oblivious to the fact that he can read the thread.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/30 "2017-07-03T01:45:54Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> We don’t need any more posters like **adaher**.

I agree. Adaher has made a running joke of his inability to be anywhere near facts.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/31 "2017-07-03T01:49:26Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I take exception to including **Hurricane Ditka** in with the likes of **Okrahoma**. At least **HD** is intelligent and capable of adult dialogue. If there were more conservatives here who were like him, this board would be better off.

I agree. **HD** is fine by me. I disagree with him on many points, politically, but he strikes me as a sensible fellow, and I never get the sense he is trolling or just trying to piss people off for no reason, despite what posters above have said. And, come on, he’s got **Ditka** in his screen name (see my location.) 🙂

**Okra** is Okra. I don’t mind his presence on the board either, to tell you the truth. He’s definitely out to ruffle some feathers, but I don’t particularly care. It’s amusing.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/32 "2017-07-03T01:52:59Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Quick. Let’s act like we’re covertly overthrowing America with our liberal values and act completely oblivious to the fact that he can read the thread.

So, Comrade, how goes our evil plan to take away the guns of real Americans and turn them into abortion machines?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/33 "2017-07-03T01:54:03Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> HurricaneDitka would be a better poster if he wasn’t playing the “Hurr de hurr, its funny to make you liberals angry” troll card.

Huh. That’s a disappointment. I guess I’m not as familiar with him as I thought.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/34 "2017-07-03T02:03:44Z")

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Last year, (Oklahoma) [experienced 585 earthquakes of 3.0 magnitude or higher, more than in the past 35 years combined](http://www.tulsaworld.com/quake-debate-science-questioned-while-state-s-earthquake-studies-go/article_eedb5ada-46eb-5550-8f56-04c5cc9966b4.html). That figure earned Oklahoma the title of the most seismically active among the contiguous 48 states.  
“At this point in time, I don’t think we have enough information to truly understand what is causing earthquakes,” Gov. Mary Fallin told the Tulsa World. “We know a lot of it’s just natural earthquakes that have occurred since the beginning of the earth, _but there has been some question about disposal wells_.” :smack: :smack: :smack: No Shit Sherlock.

You can call it Hooterville for all I care.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/35 "2017-07-03T02:04:57Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So, Comrade, how goes our evil plan to take away the guns of real Americans and turn them into abortion machines?

Let me correct your accent, if I may:

> [@](#):
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> So, Comrade, how goes our evil plan to take away guns of the real Americans and turn them into the abortion machines?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/36 "2017-07-03T02:13:35Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I take exception to including **Hurricane Ditka** in with the likes of **Okrahoma**. At least **HD** is intelligent and capable of adult dialogue. If there were more conservatives here who were like him, this board would be better off.

I basically agree. **HD** seems mostly fair to me. It does seem like some people hate posters on this board just by nature of them being conservative, not because of anything they actually did.

It’s probably not easy to be a conservative on these boards because you often get called out for trolling just for stating your opinion. But it doesn’t help that some of the conservatives here behave like caricatures full of pointless snark rather than three dimensional human beings. **Okrahoma** veers this way. But then there are lefties that behave the same way.

Back when I was on social media, I intentionally joined a couple of conservative FB groups, particularly some news groups that had pretty nuanced articles (I believe one was called The American Conservative.) I liked reading those, the problem is the comments sections were filled with people just spewing vitriol and garbage, totally abandoning all pretense of critical thinking. I have found it very difficult, even when actively trying, to find conservatives who don’t relate to liberals in this way. I know that intelligent conservatives are out there, but they are not currently dominating the narrative (or the internet.)

I just lose patience really fast for intellectual laziness. Anytime you start generalizing about liberals or conservatives in bad faith, I lose respect.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/37 "2017-07-03T02:14:03Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I agree. Adaher has made a running joke of his inability to be anywhere near facts.

So? He’s also reasonable when you talk to him and willing to admit when he’s wrong. He offers reasonable positions on topics, even if I don’t necessarily agree with them. He shows an ability to care about issues, and will even switch to a liberal position on some of them.

He’s nothing like all these pro-Trump conservatives who admit they enjoy pissing of liberals for fun. Those are the shitty people that we don’t need on this board. Bad predictions are perfectly fine as long as you don’t pretend you were right.

I actually would defend **adaher** over Bricker, as at least the former doesn’t use disingenuous arguing tactics. He’s conservative. He’s wrong a lot. But he’s at least decent.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/38 "2017-07-03T02:15:42Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So, Comrade, how goes our evil plan to take away the guns of real Americans and turn them into abortion machines?

We’re getting resistance from some inbreds who stumbled across our secret fake warehouses housing the SWAT teams of firearm confiscators, but we’ve got our Jewish Hollywood contacts spinning fake news for our media puppets to distract and confuse the American public.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/39 "2017-07-03T02:19:30Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> So? He’s also reasonable when you talk to him and willing to admit when he’s wrong.

Well if that is true, I might reconsider removing him from my ignore list. Back when I put him on it, he would never admit to being wrong, he’d just double-down on it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-okrahoma/790390/40 "2017-07-03T02:19:42Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> We’re getting resistance from some inbreds who stumbled across our secret fake warehouses housing the SWAT teams of firearm confiscators, but we’ve got our Jewish Hollywood contacts spinning fake news for our media puppets to distract and confuse the American public.

_Mazel-tov_! I shall report this to our superiors at Comet Ping Pong at once.

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