# Hey rjung... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 19, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544 "2004-08-19T13:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544/81 "2004-08-20T19:53:46Z")
> [@Bruce\_Daddy](#): > > What do I win? A pack of gum? A beer? Come on, I get something. You get a visit from the Tooth Fairy Godfather, who’s going to come take your teeth whether you want to part with them or not… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544/82 "2004-08-20T23:04:13Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Did you even read the post from me you quoted? Maybe you can answer it in another post, because this one didn’t do it. It’s little more than a post-count booster. How would you propose we hold a fair election? :dubious: Alzheimer’s or cognitive dissonance? You tell me. > [@duffer](#): > > \*\*But you seem to think Diebold is somehow inherently evil and unfair. > > So what is the best way? You seem such an expert on voting systems, how would you propose we conduct elections?\*\* My response: _“[by]not having known Republican boosters in charge of computerized voting systems that can be easily hacked”_ Let me know if you’re still having problems understanding my reply – I’ll type slower next time. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544/83 "2004-08-21T01:01:15Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Over half (54%) do, even today](http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/20/poll_finds_many_still_believe_iraq_had_weapons_of_mass_destruction_al_qaeda_link/). Don’t misrepresent the poll you quoted. It is not true that 54% believe that Saddam and Al-Qaida “were in bed”. That polling number was 35%. Over half still believe that there was a WMD program or actual weapons. With a margin of error of 3.5% in the poll it’s pretty much 50% on the money, which is how it should be because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Anyway, I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t misrepresent stuff. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544/84 "2004-08-21T01:58:40Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Don’t misrepresent the poll you quoted. It is not true that 54% believe that Saddam and Al-Qaida “were in bed”. That polling number was 35%. Over half still believe that there was a WMD program or actual weapons. With a margin of error of 3.5% in the poll it’s pretty much 50% on the money, which is how it should be because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. > > Anyway, I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t misrepresent stuff. Thanks. Jebus H Christ, **Doors** , for someone whose publicly stated on a number of times that he’d gone over to the Light, you sure seem to spend an inordinate amount of time defending any criticism of your (former?) idol and his cabal. Fact is, a full **50%** of those Americans polled still believe the bogus Iraq/AQ connection. It says right there in black and white that: > [@](#): > > Half believe Iraq was either closely linked with al-Qaida before the war (35 percent) or was directly involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on this country (15 percent). So yeah, if 35 + 15 still equals 50, you have at least half of America believing in Bushit according to said poll. IOW, your argument has to do with how many Americans still believe that > [@](#): > > Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or a program to develop them **not** the AQ/Iraq connection as laid out bellow: > [@Airman Doors](#): > > absence of evidence is not evidence of absence Yeah, and I say you’re pedophile. Go ahead, _prove_ me wrong :rolleyes: Know what? It’d probably more honest of you to come out and say that you’re gonna vote for your idol. Your “Bush fooled me” crap appears to be quite garbled. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544/85 "2004-08-21T12:13:35Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Know what? It’d probably more honest of you to come out and say that you’re gonna vote for your idol. Your “Bush fooled me” crap appears to be quite garbled. So what you’re saying is that I have to start sucking Democratic tit or I’m voting for Bush? :rolleyes: Kerry is the lesser of the two evils this year. No more, no less. Every time either of them make a speech I end up yelling at the TV/radio about how ridiculous they are. And furthermore, just because I don’t care for someone or something does not mean that I will allow blatant dishonesty about that person. Especially when the question at hand is not yet conclusively answered. ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544/86 "2004-08-21T12:34:18Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Don’t misrepresent the poll you quoted. It is not true that 54% believe that Saddam and Al-Qaida “were in bed”. That polling number was 35%. Over half still believe that there was a WMD program or actual weapons. With a margin of error of 3.5% in the poll it’s pretty much 50% on the money, which is how it should be because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. > > Anyway, I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t misrepresent stuff. Thanks. [Poll is here,](http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Report08_20_04.pdf) (PDF), see for yourself. Part in question is on page 6. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544/87 "2004-08-23T19:53:42Z")
Read this on CNN a few minutes ago, I found it interesting. “Vote count at mercy of clandestine testing” [http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/biztech/08/23/evoting.labs.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/biztech/08/23/evoting.labs.ap/index.html) > [@Airman Doors](#): > > Over half still believe that there was a WMD program or actual weapons. With a margin of error of 3.5% in the poll it’s pretty much 50% on the money, which is how it should be because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You know the only person you’re fooling when you invoke pathetic Rumsfeldian semantic nitpicking is yourself. There has not been one shred of WMD found, do yourself a favor and simply except that you were wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-rjung/260544.md?page=4)