# Hey: shove your nuclear waste up your own asses, fuckers

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712 "2019-01-31T07:57:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/1 "2019-01-31T07:57:59Z")

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[“Gee, why do people in the western US distrust the federal government?”](https://apnews.com/5038903ab33949e88c241961a58f73aa)

:mad:

Fuck you and your nuclear waste. We don’t want it. Take it somewhere else or leave it at your place (where it is now), but we don’t fucking want it.

Lying to the public and doing an end-around on the country’s legal procedures IS NOT good government, IMO, especially when doing so puts the public at risk.

Bunch of asslicking monkey fucking troglodytes. I hope everyone involved finds that everyone they know shows as much care for them as they have for us: none.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/2 "2019-01-31T12:29:56Z")

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I forget, how many people have died from nuclear waste storage? Is it more than the number killed mining coal: about 200/year.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/3 "2019-01-31T12:31:48Z")

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They should store it in some otherwise disused former industrial location–perhaps thow it down an old quarry.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/4 "2019-01-31T12:37:47Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> They should store it in some otherwise disused former industrial location–perhaps thow it down an old quarry.

Aren’t there unused bunkers under Washington D.C? Can’t think of any place more secure than that.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/5 "2019-01-31T12:46:58Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> They should store it in some otherwise disused former industrial location–perhaps thow it down an old quarry.

I see what you did there. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/6 "2019-01-31T13:28:11Z")

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Wow, such crybabies these westerners be.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/7 "2019-01-31T13:52:07Z")

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Got any better candidates to propose? If not, then you’re just Nimbying.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/8 "2019-01-31T14:25:26Z")

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I don’t really understand the issue or the outrage. Are you objecting to it being transported without notifying the public? How is it safer to let everyone know before transporting it? Or is there some specific concern about the security of this storage facility?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/9 "2019-01-31T14:31:17Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [“Gee, why do people in the western US distrust the federal government?”](https://apnews.com/5038903ab33949e88c241961a58f73aa)
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> :mad:
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> Fuck you and your nuclear waste. We don’t want it. Take it somewhere else or leave it at your place (where it is now), but we don’t fucking want it.
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> Lying to the public and doing an end-around on the country’s legal procedures IS NOT good government, IMO, especially when doing so puts the public at risk.
> 
> Bunch of asslicking monkey fucking troglodytes. I hope everyone involved finds that everyone they know shows as much care for them as they have for us: none.

So you’re saying what? That the nuclear waste should be stored in a populated area, rather than in some remote desert repository in the back of beyond where nobody lives?

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/10 "2019-01-31T14:39:16Z")

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Yes, it’s much better to keep it all sitting there in cooling ponds on site. There’s no way that couldn’t end badly.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/11 "2019-01-31T14:42:35Z")

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It’s not waste, it’s even _better!_ - weapons-grade Plutonium.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/12 "2019-01-31T14:51:24Z")

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And while we’re at it, Western states, we Easterners are sick of your coal waste that you shove off on us. And on everyone else on the planet.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/13 "2019-01-31T15:08:47Z")

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Or maybe we should keep our nuclear waste in facilities like these:

> **[These dumpsters of old nuclear waste are costing taxpayers a fortune - The...](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/01/31/these-dumpsters-old-nuclear-waste-are-costing-you-billions/lw7aIpcWOhmn3ThjeqEnVP/story.html)**
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> They were supposed to be hauled away decades ago but they’re still here.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/14 "2019-01-31T15:14:06Z")

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Your link seems to refer to weapons grade plutonium, which I can assure you, is yours just as much as it’s mine.

If your concern is waste material from nuclear reactors, my understanding is that fewer people have died from the entire 50 year history of US Nuclear Power than die every year from Solar, or Coal.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/15 "2019-01-31T15:14:12Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> It’s not waste, it’s even _better!_ - weapons-grade Plutonium.

Safer anyway… since weapons-grade plutonium is predominantly Pu-239 (\>93% if USAF, \>95% if USN), it’s not going to be terribly radioactive versus other radioactive materials such as high level waste.

Plus, in all likelihood, the site “70 miles from Las Vegas” is the Nevada National Security Site (NNSS, previously the National Test Site), which is well guarded, and AFAIK, geologically stable. It’s where the US set off hundreds of nuclear tests from the 1950s through early 1990s, and not shockingly, where the Yucca Mountain waste repository is as well. In addition, Area 51/Groom Lake is part of the NNSS as well.

This sounds very much like a couple of governors getting in a dumb-ass pissing contest rather than anything based in any sort of realistic fears.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/16 "2019-01-31T15:18:11Z")

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A save place to store this could be considered a valuable resource, unfortunately it’s not treated as such and just seen as a free dump.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/17 "2019-01-31T15:20:09Z")

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[Who says it’s not?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository)

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/18 "2019-01-31T16:21:41Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [“Gee, why do people in the western US distrust the federal government?”](https://apnews.com/5038903ab33949e88c241961a58f73aa)
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> :mad:
> 
> Fuck you and your nuclear waste. We don’t want it. Take it somewhere else or leave it at your place (where it is now), but we don’t fucking want it.
> 
> Lying to the public and doing an end-around on the country’s legal procedures IS NOT good government, IMO, especially when doing so puts the public at risk.
> 
> Bunch of asslicking monkey fucking troglodytes. I hope everyone involved finds that everyone they know shows as much care for them as they have for us: none.

The article is light on details, but I don’t think they are talking about ‘nuclear waste’. You seem to be relating ’ weapons-grade plutonium’ with ‘nuclear waste’, but they are two different things. Just an FYI.

As for your general point, I have to say I disagree with you. Sorry. I lived in Nevada. I have friends that worked at or work at the Test Site. Nevada is a perfectly good place to store actual nuclear waste (not to mention secure storage of basically weapons grade materials, which is actually what your article is talking about), as long as it’s done right. I know you and many of your fellow state citizens don’t agree with that, but sometimes you have to suck it up. It’s the least bad option…certainly a hell of a lot better than what we’ve been doing, which is to store the stuff in-situ at the nuclear power plants where it’s more vulnerable, costs more to try and support and protect and has a higher probability of leaking and causing issues in more populated areas. Reality sucks sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/19 "2019-01-31T16:26:24Z")

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This is why we can’t have nice things - the anti-nuke/anti-science types have too many lawyers.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-shove-your-nuclear-waste-up-your-own-asses-fuckers/828712/20 "2019-01-31T17:08:24Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> This is why we can’t have nice things - the anti-nuke/anti-science types have too many lawyers.

I’m sorry, are you comparing anti-nuke with flat earthers and anti-vaxxers?

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