# Hey, some Nigerian scam artists have me in their sights! \*hee hee\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 3, 2001, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291 "2001-11-03T08:07:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chef\_Troy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Chef\_Troy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chef_Troy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/1 "2001-11-03T08:07:09Z")
I got this e-mail tonight: > [@](#): > > \*\*Dr. John Efetobor. > Treasury Controller > Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation. > Fax: 234-1-7597120. > > Dear Sir, > BUSINESS PROPOSAL. > > I am the Treasury Controller, Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation[NNPC] and a close associate of the immediate past Minister of Petroleum Resources. > > The Minister has mandated me to transfer the sum of US$88 millions recovered from an over-invoiced contracts involving the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation[NNPC] into several private account in Europe and United States. A total sum of US$73,700,000.00 has been transferred before the emergence of this present Civilian Administration, leaving the balance of US$14,300,000.00. > > I have made proper arrangement/documentation to transfer the balance which is retained in a coded account of the NNPC with the Central Bank of Nigeria. We are soliciting that you help us to receive the fund in trust. We cannot complete this transaction smoothly without the participation of a foreign partner who would provide an account where the funds could be lodged. Since it is a contract payment, the funds must be remitted to a foreign account. The remittance of the funds requires little documentation that would be completed as soon as you provide us with a secured bank account where you may wish to receive the money. > > There is no risk involved on your part in this transaction since the former Minister and I have covered this transaction with adequate contract and external credit documents from the beginning. > > What we require from you by e-mail or fax are viz: > > {i} Acceptance letter of this offer > > {ii} Your company name and confidential telephone and fax numbers > > {iii} Convincing Honesty, Trustworthiness and Willingness to abide by the requirements of this proposal paramount of which is CONFIDENTIALITY. > > We have agreed that you will retain 20% of the entire US$14,300,000.00 for your effort in this transaction, 70% for us partners here in Nigeria and the remaining 10% will be used for defrayal of incidental cost in the course of this transfer. > > Please reply urgently by fax or e-mail as we expect that the transaction will not take more than ten working days. And please note that this transaction must be top secret. > > Best regard > Dr. John Efetobor. > Treasury Controller > NNPC\*\* Wow, 20 percent of $14.3 billion is nearly 3 billion bucks. I could sure use the money! Of course I’ve blown my chances by revealing it here… Don’t worry, of course I realize this is a scam - I’ve heard of it before. The question is, what should I do now? Just ignore it? Report it to my ISP? The cops? ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/2 "2001-11-03T10:51:32Z")
Either ignore it, or report it to the cops. What an industry these con artists have going! Every year, more seem to come out of the woodwork. Reporting it may do no good at all – but I’m sure there are international laws being broken here. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/3 "2001-11-03T10:55:07Z")
It’s 14 Million (not Billion)… Nah, not worth my time. You might want to talk to Donald Trump or someone like him who may be interested in smaller deals… ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/4 "2001-11-03T13:38:57Z")
Let the cops know. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/5 "2001-11-03T14:42:57Z")
Geez, if you can’t trust crooked Nigerian government officials, who can you trust? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/6 "2001-11-03T14:57:53Z")
It’s been going on for years. Sadly, people do get taken in by this scam. For example, according to the [RCMP](http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams/nigerian.htm), Canadians have been suckered out of over $30 million over the past ten years. And then there’s this interesting site, which alleges that the reason the scam’s been going on for so long is that it has the complicit support of the Nigerian government: [Nigeria - The 419 Coalition Website](http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm). They give instructions on who to contact when you get an e-mail or letter, so you could check it out, **Chef Troy.** ---
**Author:** ![DaToad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@DaToad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaToad)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/7 "2001-11-03T15:48:40Z")
Several people in my company received a similar letter. On advice from our company lawyer, we forwarded them to the US Attorney’s Office. Coulda used the cash though. ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/8 "2001-11-03T16:16:33Z")
Hey **Cheffie** , I’ve received many over the years (got one via email this past Monday) and have learned that the U. S. government entity that is tracking this is the Secret Service. They maintain a database of names and numbers associated with the scam and they are the party to whom you should forward the solicitation you’ve received. ---
**Author:** ![tirial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@tirial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tirial)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/9 "2001-11-03T17:56:11Z")
There’s more on the scam at: [http://www.priveye.com/419.htm](http://www.priveye.com/419.htm) (Had some a while ago which I forwarded to the Serious Fraud Office. ) ---
**Author:** ![FortMarcy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9de053/32.png) [@FortMarcy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FortMarcy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/10 "2001-11-03T19:32:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Northern Piper \* > \*\*And then there’s this interesting site, which alleges that the reason the scam’s been going on for so long is that it has the complicit support of the Nigerian government: [Nigeria - The 419 Coalition Website](http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm). They give instructions on who to contact when you get an e-mail or letter, so you could check it out, **Chef Troy.** \*\* Law enforcement doesn’t really care about these scams. Report it to whichever agency you choose. It won’t go far. This is actually what the whole 419 Coalition is all about. Businessman Charles Pascale (who is basically the 419 Coalition) was mad that no one would do anything about these scams: [STATEMENT RE: THE NIGERIAN SCAM](http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/alphasta.htm) I had the chance to hear an FBI agent discuss these scams once. I was surprised when he said that little is done about these complaints. His take on it was that the companies who accept the offers are willing to engage in fraud in order to receive the money. It’s not honestly run businesses that get taken. After his explanation, I had to agree that ignoring the complaints is as troublesome a course of action as Mr. Pascale believes it to be. ---
**Author:** ![Ferggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@Ferggie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferggie)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/11 "2001-11-03T19:39:28Z")
Well the Nigerians may be out to get you guys, but I’m sure the plea I got via e-mail from a poor Ivory Coast boy named Valentine is genuine. I mean, the poor kid’s mother has disappeared and his father died slowly from poisoning at the hands of enemies anxious to get their hands on a secret stash of cash, and if I don’t let the “boy of 20” have access to my bank account so he can transfer the money to me, his life will be threatened, too. (Of course, he’ll share the wealth.) Whyever would a complete stranger lie to me about accessing my bank account? I must help him. It’s destiny. My young friend prayed over a number of e-mail address and chose mine, without even knowing my name. Hm, he’s rich, I wonder if he’s cute… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/12 "2001-11-03T21:25:14Z")
I’m just wondering if there’s been a recent rash of these things in e-mail. Since June 28, I have received four: from Mrs. Chibuzo Nwetego of Cote d’Ivoire, Mr. Friday Okeke and Mr. Daniel Eze of Nigeria, and Mr. Edward Mambo of Zaire, all with different bizarre stories of persecution and woe plus 15+ million dollars stashed away. There must be many billions of dollars hidden in trunks and safe deposit boxes all over West Africa. I had never received one by e-mail before (although I got my first one by regular mail in the early 90s.) Just for laughs, I replied to the last two saying I found their offer intriguing and asking for more information. No replies so far. Maybe they decided I wasn’t trustworthy. ---
**Author:** ![buddy1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@buddy1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddy1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/13 "2001-11-03T23:43:29Z")
…of a cockeyed scheme I read about years ago. There was this guy in NH, who had one of the world’s largest collections of used tires (sitting in his junkyard). A Nigerian con man convinced him that the tires could be sold in Nigeria, at a profit-just how this was supposed to work, I’ll never know! At any rate, the guy went along with it, and contacted a shipping company, making plans to ship 5 million old discarded tires to Nigeria. I don’t know if he got scammed, but shortly thereafter his mountain of tires caught fire, and burned for weeks-think of the airpollution! A company that I worked for also receved an official-looking letter from a Nigerian scammer-we had a good laugh over it, but some people do fall for these things. ---
**Author:** ![Folkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@Folkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folkie)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/14 "2001-11-04T00:57:14Z")
The government may not take this seriously (I don’t know if they do or don’t) but the scam CAN turn more serious than just greedy people losing money. Some of these people have been encouraged to go over to pick up their dirty profits and never made it back home. This I get from a State Department publication called: Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, 1977. Folkie (who invests all his money in wishing wells) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/15 "2001-11-04T06:04:49Z")
> [@](#): > > Law enforcement doesn’t really care about these scams. Report it to whichever agency you choose. It won’t go far. This is actually what the whole 419 Coalition is all about. Businessman Charles Pascale (who is basically the 419 Coalition) was mad that no one would do anything about these scams: [STATEMENT RE: THE NIGERIAN SCAM](http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/alphasta.htm) I don’t think it’s a case of not caring; it’s a case of not being able to do much about it. If the scammers are in Nigeria, which seems to be the case, then the only way that Western gov’ts can do anything is via the Nigerian government. If the Nigerian gov’t is winking at it, what do you expect Western law enforcement officers to do? I know that whenever the scam is active in my area, the Mounties are quick to issue public advisories, to alert people to the scam. Not everyone pays attention - there was a report last summer of a fellow who committed suicide; turned out he’d been taken in by the scam and had transferred a large sum of his employer’s money to the scammers. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/16 "2001-11-04T16:57:26Z")
The Treasury has a place to forward the mail to: [419.fcd@usss.treas.gov](mailto:419.fcd@usss.treas.gov) and put NO LOSS in the subject line ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/17 "2001-11-06T14:18:05Z")
“Someone I know” runs a porn site. Maybe I should reply with the address? Hey, this “Nigerian” might buy something. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/18 "2001-11-06T21:40:28Z")
I got an e-mail from one DR. PATRICK UDO ODION, replete with lots of CAPS and misspellings. Apprently, I " have been recommended by Nigeria chamber of commerce of [my] ability and reliability to transact business of great magnitude of this kind." Wow! For giving him my bank information and company information, I get 20% of $30,000,000.00–$6 million! Boy, with that kind of money, I can buy the Brooklyn Bridge. I wonder how these scammers got my e-mail? ---
**Author:** ![ChristmasEve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@ChristmasEve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChristmasEve)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/19 "2001-11-06T23:18:06Z")
Slight sense of deja vu here… The technology may have moved on a little, but a similar scam was running by fax in the UK about 5 years ago, and largely focused on charities. The Charity Commission and the Metropolitan Police were both involved in the investigation, although I don’t know what came of it. The rumour was that in order to release some fairly significant funds which had been left to Charity X in a will, all you had to do was provide your bank details and a tax of about 10% of the money to be drawn down. Like the emails described here, the faxes were OFTEN IN CAPITALS, and made reference to the dying wishes of the donor that the money be used to create hospitals/cure cancer/save kitties…depending on the mission of the targeted charity. ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291/20 "2001-11-06T23:20:46Z")
**gobear** , I used to get lots of them, and I still get them occasionally. Almost all I received were oil related and I finally decided they were getting my name from industry directories. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-some-nigerian-scam-artists-have-me-in-their-sights-hee-hee/91291.md?page=2)