# Hey - There's a Cecil / Dope Answer on Jeopardy tonight \[2012/06/11\] **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861 "2012-06-12T00:04:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/21 "2012-06-12T10:25:11Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > Just an FYI notice (not about the clue itself). The show just finished in the Eastern time zone, but Central & Pacific zone viewers can still catch it… Just an FYI for you…the show is syndicated and doesn’t play at a set time everywhere. It is on at 4:30 PM here. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/22 "2012-06-12T11:55:38Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > I might be mistaken, but I don’t think that was part of the clue. I _think_ it was just a sly reference to what Cecil is most notoriously famous for: Setting out the straight dope and lifting the veil of ignorance for all and sundry… I interpreted it as Trebek claiming to be smarter that Cecil. “Yeah, Cecil Adams says this, but I already knew that.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/23 "2012-06-12T13:03:51Z")
Saw it too, and didn’t get it. On a side note, was that not the strangest Final Jeopardy ever? First time I’ve ever seen everyone get the Final Jeopardy question wrong, including the Jeopardy people. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/24 "2012-06-12T13:44:31Z")
Thank you, Veruc–I mean, ambushed. Right now all you have is the glow of having done A Good Thing, but let’s see what we can do to burnish that a little. So what was “Final Jeopardy?” It’s not often they mess up. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/25 "2012-06-12T13:48:59Z")
Category was something like “Events in the Bible.” Answer was "According to Acts 1:13, this event took place in an upper room.’ From my couch I said Pentecost, as did the Champion, but Alex said the correst response was the Last Supper The writers were incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/26 "2012-06-12T14:28:30Z")
It was actually none of the things mentioned. Acts 1:13 leads up to the story where the 11 disciples chose a replacement for Judas. Not sure how that got by the fact checkers. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/27 "2012-06-12T16:16:37Z")
Wow, I bet that gets revisited. Not often they have a big oopses like that. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/28 "2012-06-12T16:22:48Z")
As an aside, I didn’t know that from Cecil, but I did know it from a play I once saw about a fictitious but plausible meeting between Irving Berlin and Scott Joplin (spoilered because it contains the name of the composer-- It doesn’t spoil the play itself). ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/29 "2012-06-12T18:49:11Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Thanks for posting that video clip. Pretty cool, at least for Dopers. You’re welcome. Thanks for the kind words. > [@srzss05](#): > > Just an FYI for you…the show is syndicated and doesn’t play at a set time everywhere. It is on at 4:30 PM here. Oops. I thought it was a national network program, but, er… “I knew that” > [@BigT](#): > > I interpreted it as Trebek claiming to be smarter that Cecil. “Yeah, Cecil Adams says this, but I already knew that.” Hi, **BigT**! Thanks for sticking up for me in that doctor problem thread a while back. Anyway, as you can see, that’s more or less the impression I got, too. However, after watching it again while I was capturing the video for uploading, I now agree with what [**Twoflower**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15158104&postcount=15) said above. Think of the category title as if it had read: **“I Didn’t Learn About You from Adams”**. **Twoflower** ’s analysis of the category’s lameness is spot on, too. ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/30 "2012-06-12T19:11:31Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > It was actually none of the things mentioned. Acts 1:13 leads up to the story where the 11 disciples chose a replacement for Judas. Not sure how that got by the fact checkers. Well, in the end it didn’t _quite_ get past them. Elaine’s response was “The Last Supper”, which Alex ruled correct (which it definitely was not, as you point out). I’m very far from knowing chapter and verse, as they say, but that just seemed wrong to me (although I didn’t know the correct answer). Actually, the correct response was “Pentecost” (see, for example: [Pentecost in the New Testament](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecost#New_Testament), which cites Acts 1:13), which was Aaron’s answer. But Trebek wrongly said he got it wrong! Which explains the otherwise very confusing comments Trebek made immediately at the end of the show about undefined “errors” and that Aaron actually won ~ $12,000 instead of the much lower winning total he was awarded after his “wrong” response. His extremely brief comments baffled me until you prompted me to check out the specified verse. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/31 "2012-06-12T21:10:19Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > Actually, the correct response was “Pentecost” (see, for example: [Pentecost in the New Testament](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecost#New_Testament), which cites Acts 1:13), which was Aaron’s answer. But Trebek wrongly said he got it wrong! Actually, that’s not even exactly right. Acts 1:13 deals with the selection of Matthias to replace Judas. The story of Pentecost begins at Chapter 2. Acts 1:13 specifically refers to “an upper room” (in the edition I’m looking at, it’s “the room upstairs.”) Chapter 2 says the Apostles were “all together in one place,” but doesn’t say whether it was the same place. Of course, the Gospels of both Mark and Luke specifically say the Last Supper was held in an upper/upstairs room. So everyone was wrong, including the contestants and the writers. But everyone was understandably wrong. Rather like “People Who Have Never Been in My Kitchen.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/32 "2012-06-12T21:17:44Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Actually, that’s not even exactly right. Acts 1:13 deals with the selection of Matthias to replace Judas. The story of Pentecost begins at Chapter 2. Acts 1:13 specifically refers to “an upper room” (in the edition I’m looking at, it’s “the room upstairs.”) Chapter 2 says the Apostles were “all together in one place,” but doesn’t say whether it was the same place. > > Of course, the Gospels of both Mark and Luke specifically say the Last Supper was held in an upper/upstairs room. > > So everyone was wrong, including the contestants and the writers. But everyone was understandably wrong. Rather like “People Who Have Never Been in My Kitchen.” Well, I was right back in post 26, so I’ve got that going for me! ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/33 "2012-06-13T00:40:23Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > It was one of those over-contrived categories they sometimes come up with. As noted, the category was “I Don’t Know You from Adams” – each clue was about some person named Adams who was a source for some factoid. And each clue came with a lame disclaimer that the person’s knowledge of that factoid came from somewhere besides the Adams in question. Oh, I get it! For some reason, I thought that the category was Final Jeopardy, but upon rereading I see it was in Double Jeopardy. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/34 "2012-06-13T02:33:48Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > Which explains the otherwise very confusing comments Trebek made immediately at the end of the show about undefined “errors” and that Aaron actually won ~ $12,000 instead of the much lower winning total he was awarded after his “wrong” response. Actually, I think even the clarification was misleading. To my ear, Trebek’s statement implied that Aaron ended up with $12,002; the point was that Aaron’s incorrect final dollar amount was increased by $12,002. - - $6001 for getting the right answer, and the $6001 that had been incorrectly docked. If I’m mistaken, correct away. I can take it. . ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/35 "2012-06-13T04:29:47Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > To earn my hinted at reward from **TubaDiva** , I captured and titled the relevant parts of the show and then uploaded them to a video share site. It took a lot longer than I expected because I had to try several sites to find one that more-or-less worked as advertised :smack: > > If you want to watch it online, here’s the link for that: [CecilOnJeopStd.flv](http://www64.zippyshare.com/v/10939822/file.html) Very nice. It made me very happy to see that. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/36 "2012-06-15T13:52:20Z")
Figures this happened on one of those occasional days when my DVR had a glitch and didn’t record the show. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861/37 "2012-06-15T16:47:40Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > The clue/answer was: **“Cecil Adams wrote an interesting “Straight Dope” about this great songwriter only playing in one key, but I knew that”** This reminds me of what someone, I can’t recall who, said about [Tom T. Hall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_T_Hall): I like all of his songs and _both_ of his melodies. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-theres-a-cecil-dope-answer-on-jeopardy-tonight-2012-06-11/624861.md?page=1)