# Hey, Trumps: Christmas isn't about America, you pathetic non-religious assholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 2, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290 "2019-12-02T22:54:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/21 "2019-12-04T17:15:49Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > No _true_ Scotsman, huh? To be fair, evangelical Christianity =/= mainline Christianity. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/22 "2019-12-04T17:17:43Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Let’s not paint all Christians with the same brush here; you would be more accurate to say “I’m not expecting his ignorant fundamentalist/evangelical Christian supporters of him to ever break.” > > What they’re espousing politically is NOT in line with normal mainstream Christian thought, and could be considered heretical by many established denominations. Anybody who supports that orange piece of diarrhea ought’a be excommunicated. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/23 "2019-12-04T18:14:30Z")
And Trump did refer to white supremacists as [“very fine people.”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally) Of course, he would think that, as they put him into office. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/24 "2019-12-04T22:11:32Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > They give him a pass for: > > - being twice divorced > - being accused of sexual assault by twenty different women > - having an affair with a porn star while his third wife just gave birth to their son > - bragging about grabbing women by their private part > - bragging about walking into underage girls changing rooms at the beauty contests he owned > - making incestuous comments about his daughter > - being unable to actually name a verse from the Bible [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE) > - being sued for discriminatory business practices towards African Americans > - bigotry towards minorities > - telling over 10000 lies in office > > I’m not expecting the Christian supporters of him to ever break. They’re a cult. A bunch of phonies. The same people who call him anointed by God spent eight years demonising the last president as a Muslim from Kenya trying to destroy America. The fuckers are saying he was chosen and anointed by God himself now. They had no credibility before this. now they have even less, as if that were even possible. Bunch of hypocritical phonies. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/25 "2019-12-04T22:14:46Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Let’s not paint all Christians with the same brush here; you would be more accurate to say “I’m not expecting his ignorant fundamentalist/evangelical Christian supporters of him to ever break.” > > What they’re espousing politically is NOT in line with normal mainstream Christian thought, and could be considered heretical by many established denominations. Sorry, but that time is gone. I’m not interested in parsing or qualifying or specifying or any of that, any more. They, back, him, they can go to hell with him. Scotsmen, true Scotsmen, no true Scotsmen, what ever. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/26 "2019-12-04T22:16:40Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > … > Hell, if you actually believe what the Evangelicals and Fundamentalist claim to believe, they wouldn’t support Trump. That’s part of what pisses me off. These people have been lying to me my whole life about all these values they claim to hold. > > At least I maintained some respect when I thought the issue was just differing beliefs. And THIS. They LIED. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/27 "2019-12-05T07:01:05Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > No _true_ Scotsman, huh? Not really. That fallacy is chronically misapplied. It only occurs when someone ignores a counterclaim by changing the definition of their terms. I’m simply pointing out that the phrase “the Christians supporters of him [Trump]” already inherently excludes the Christians who actually have and hold to beliefs that are antithetical to Trump. So there’s no need to further specify by type of Christian. I’m a Christian, too, but I didn’t feel insulted by **Boycott** ’s post, because he wasn’t talking about me. He was specifically talking about Christians who support Trump. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/28 "2019-12-05T10:40:48Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > God gives the beast authority to rule for a time, and lets people worship him and his image. _…And the Lord said, “Psych!”_ What a wacky practical jokester that guy is! Must be a riot at parties. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/29 "2019-12-05T13:42:48Z")
Basically these are Christians for whom the label is really part of an identity shorthand rather than a considered acceptance of a theology (which come to think of it, probably became a major segment of those claiming the name around the same time when kings began converting and expecting all subjects to folow suit or else). A large heap of American Rightwing Evangelical/Fundamentalists truly hold to the belief of America as the New Chosen Nation, and American nationalism being therefore a “christian value”. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/30 "2019-12-05T14:11:25Z")
Trump has given me one of my best lines ever: For centuries the only people who had any power in this country were the straight, white, rich Christian men. Aren’t you glad we’re not being led by a straight, white, rich Christian man today? (Pause for laughter). _Wait a minute…_ ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290/31 "2019-12-09T18:22:26Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > God gives the beast authority to rule for a time, and lets people worship him and his image. Blatantly obvious that Trump is a spirit of the antichrist, and one who is waging war on humanity, and our home, the earth. Funny. I always thought that to be a credible genuine threat, capable of pulling it off, the AntiChrist would have to have a fucking brain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-trumps-christmas-isnt-about-america-you-pathetic-non-religious-assholes/844290.md?page=1)