# Hey, UncleBeer, You're Laughable **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145 "2003-02-19T16:15:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/41 "2003-02-20T00:27:53Z")
I, for one, am horribly offended. Here we have **two** mods being pitted ( **DavidB** is the other one), and \*neither one is \* **banhattan**! where’s the justice, I say! ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/42 "2003-02-20T00:43:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > **It seems to me that you, like Otto, should have just kept your distaste to yourselves and moved on.** Oh please don’t drag _me_ into this. I made it clear that I did not ask my question out of “distaste” but out of curiosity. > [@](#): > > Why do you care whether someone you’ve never met and are never likely to meet ever defecated in his or her pants? I mean really, not to sound like some goof or anything, but why on earth do you care? > [@](#): > > I’m neither “disgusted” nor “offended” at this thread or any of its responses. Not in a “bad mood” either. As I said, I can’t imagine any earthly reason why you or anyone else would care whether or not a bunch of strangers did this. You’ve explained that you don’t really care, that you’re doing it to entertain yourself at a boring job. Question answered, so I bid you good day. I had “moved on” and wouldn’t have gone back into it at all had that thread not been linked into this one. That being said, while the OP overstates the case I do agree with those who are calling out UncleBeer. He was wrong with the personal insult. But at the same time, seeing as how there’s a personally insulting “putz” smiley that can be placed in any post in any forum, I’m really not all that terribly concerned by Unc’s technical foul. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/43 "2003-02-20T00:51:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > **It seems to me that you, like Otto, should have just kept your distaste to yourselves and moved on.** Oh please don’t drag _me_ into this. I made it clear that I did not ask my question out of “distaste” but out of curiosity. > [@](#): > > Why do you care whether someone you’ve never met and are never likely to meet ever defecated in his or her pants? I mean really, not to sound like some goof or anything, but why on earth do you care? > [@](#): > > I’m neither “disgusted” nor “offended” at this thread or any of its responses. Not in a “bad mood” either. As I said, I can’t imagine any earthly reason why you or anyone else would care whether or not a bunch of strangers did this. You’ve explained that you don’t really care, that you’re doing it to entertain yourself at a boring job. Question answered, so I bid you good day. I had “moved on” and wouldn’t have gone back into it at all had that thread not been linked into this one. That being said, while the OP overstates the case I do agree with those who are calling out UncleBeer. He was wrong with the personal insult. But at the same time, seeing as how there’s a personally insulting “putz” smiley that can be placed in any post in any forum, I’m really not all that terribly concerned by Unc’s technical foul. ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/44 "2003-02-20T01:28:43Z")
Right. That does it. I’m going to GQ to open “Pics of the SDMB staff fucking burn victims”… …just so I can watch as some idiot bitches about the subsequent banning and “abuse of power”. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/45 "2003-02-20T01:54:52Z")
Kin I dress the burn victims up in French Maid uniforms first? Well, what the hell. It’s not as though THEY’RE going to stop me. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/46 "2003-02-20T02:33:09Z")
No, no, **Ike**! All that crenoline irritates the burned skin. Don’t they teach you anything at Moderator’s School? :wally ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/47 "2003-02-20T12:34:28Z")
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. French toast. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/48 "2003-02-20T13:24:00Z")
That’s just wrong. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/49 "2003-02-20T15:09:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Otto \* > \*\*Oh please don’t drag _me_ into this. I made it clear that I did not ask my question out of “distaste” but out of curiosity. I apologize for mentioning you Otto, I just wanted to make it clear when I mentioned that UB found the thread distasteful, so did others…just in case someone wanted to jump in and say “HE wasn’t the ONLY ONE” And, frankly, you’re a good example of someone who had to explain themselves as a poster and was unable to hide behind the moderator hat. J ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/50 "2003-02-20T15:47:54Z")
Boo fuckin’ Hoo… ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/51 "2003-02-20T16:49:05Z")
> [@](#): > > _jarbabyj:_ I apologize for mentioning you Otto, I just wanted to make it clear when I mentioned that UB found the thread distasteful, You still are misunderstanding me. I found the poster immature—and said so; I have said **nothing** about the contents or topic of the thread. If I had found the thread itself distasteful, I’d have closed the damned thing. This is at least the third time I’ve posted words to this effect. > [@](#): > > _White Lightning:_ - Hold on a second, that thread wasn’t even closed? What in the world is the problem, then? Is this thread seriously about the fact that UncleBeer said im MPSIMS that he thought the rhinostylee was immature? Seriously? Pretty much, that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![racekarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@racekarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racekarl)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/52 "2003-02-20T17:58:56Z")
> [@](#): > > You still are misunderstanding me. I found the poster immature—and said so; I have said nothing about the contents or topic of the thread And that’s the rub… As Shayna has pointed out quite clearly it is the fact that you insulted a poster, rather than his post, AND THEN put on your moderator hat when called on the carpet about it is what is pissing people off. This is the reason why there are frequent threads about whether or not mods should be allowed to post; it is nearly impossible for other posters to tell what is said as moderator and what is said as poster, and it is also obviously tempting for a poster to switch to moderator voice when cornered. Whether or not other people get away with the same original offense as UB was accused of is immaterial, it is still against the rules. Also, people need to grow up and stop defending this simply because the OP is an idiot troll. Using status as a moderator to excuse poor behavior should not be tolerated on this board or it will wither and die as trust is lost between moderators and posters. That is a poison far stronger than the occasional troll… ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/53 "2003-02-20T18:06:34Z")
So when people don’t agree with you they need to “grow up”. Oh, the irony. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/54 "2003-02-20T18:32:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Whether or not other people get away with the same original offense as UB was accused of is immaterial, it is still against the rules. In your opinion. I’ve yet to see any evidence of a warning to, or chastisement of, a member from a moderator for simply calling someone immature. > [@](#): > > Using status as a moderator to excuse poor behavior should not be tolerated on this board or it will wither and die as trust is lost between moderators and posters. That is a poison far stronger than the occasional troll… I’ve been hearing that same argument since 1999. It should be apparent by now that it is false. ---
**Author:** ![racekarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@racekarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racekarl)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/55 "2003-02-20T19:51:22Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve yet to see any evidence of a warning to, or chastisement of, a member from a moderator for simply calling someone immature. How about [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=6325&highlight=personal+AND+attack)? Here is the relevant quote (posted by UncleBeer) > [@](#): > > You responded to a previous post with another personal attack by saying, > > ## quote: > > ## you ignorant jerk. > > So, now I have two instances of your lack of courtesy. Both in GQ, I might add. There is no call for that type of behavior in that forum. I think most people would agree that “ignorant jerk” is about on par with your response to rhinostlyee. Besides, calling someone immature, then threatening to ban them if they complain violates the ONLY real rule the SDMB has: Don’t be a jerk. Finally, I could list various other message boards that have collapsed under the weight of moderators pursuing personal vendettas and so forth. I’m not saying it WILL happen here, or that if it does you, UB will be the reason. I am only saying that it certainly has happened elsewhere and it CAN happen here. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/56 "2003-02-20T20:44:46Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m not saying it WILL happen here, or that if it does you, UB will be the reason. Spare me the overblown melodrama. And that thread you linked is **a)** in the goddamned pit, **b)** from before I was a moderator, and c) a really lame example. You’ll even note the object of my comments was the one who apologized. What you people are claiming exists is _a warning from a moderator to a member in a forum outside the pit for an extremely mild insult._. You’ve yet to produce one and we’re all the way back to the turn of the century. My claim stands that no such thing exists. I would also disagree, and you could probably have predicted this, that “ignorant jerk” is any where near the insult that “I think this shows something about your level of maturity, which I find sadly deficient,” is. You’re stretching it. ---
**Author:** ![racekarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@racekarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racekarl)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/57 "2003-02-20T20:55:17Z")
OK, UncleBeer, my bad about it being before you were a mod. The member info in the left hand pane is dynamic I suppose. I posted it in good faith with no intent to mislead. To be honest, I couldn’t care less about the comment about the posters immaturity, and it makes no difference to me that a mod or anyone else would say that. What bothers me is that when the poster blew your comment off, you basically threatened to ban him if he did something similar again. That to me was an unwarranted crossing over from “poster” to “moderator” which is, I believe, the point of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/58 "2003-02-20T23:23:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by racekarl \* > \*\*What bothers me is that when the poster blew your comment off, you basically threatened to ban him if he did something similar again. That to me was an unwarranted crossing over from “poster” to “moderator” which is, I believe, the point of this thread. \*\* Where did he “threaten to ban” the person? What sort of creative reading is required to arrive at that conclusion? It has been some time since I’ve seen a more hysterical response to a non-issue than some of the reactions in this thread. Hmm…let’s see…this is a thread containing: - People who have used and/or do use far worse insults than “immaturity”, and get away with it. - People who somehow think that **UncleBeer** is engorged with power and abusing it - like an Evil Calzone of Raw Moderator Hate. Or something. - People who imply that this somehow is the start down the slippery slope to the Death of the SDMB. - People who missed the whole “bolded/underlined Moderators notes” in the thread in question. - People who either can’t read, don’t care to read, or else honestly misunderstood the situation and should take a breath, and a step back. And remember that **UncleBeer** is here to serve - US, the community. NOT himself. And he does a goddamn fine job, too. - People who make accusations against **UncleBeer** , yet refuse categorically to back them up. And the impression that one recieves as well is that the OP didn’t even care enough to return to discuss the issue, they just wanted to throw invective forth from the “safe haven” of the Pit. **I don’t know if that’s true** , as many times people get called away from the Board for real life issues, or maybe they need some time to think. But if they’ve been posting elsewhere during this time, then one has to wonder why they are not here. In other words: > [@](#): > > Dang ol’ thread ‘bout nothin’. Well, **Uncle** , at least your “Pitted” ranking goes up by one more, at least. Like a service stripe on your sleeve, I guess… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/59 "2003-02-20T23:45:25Z")
Oooooh. Calzones. I’m gonna go have dinner now. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-unclebeer-youre-laughable/156145/60 "2003-02-20T23:47:38Z")
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