# Hey Urbanredneck, stop slobbering over boobs. And no, real men don’t **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779 "2017-05-03T14:48:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/1 "2017-05-03T14:48:40Z")
I normally don’t bother with lowlifes such as this, but [his hijacking](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20179487&postcount=88) of the gayity thread pushed it over the edge. [In this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=824079), our resident gastropod is confused. Actually he is perpetually confused but this time it’s a doozy. [He’s been pitted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=756662) before but on account of being homophobic but no one has taken him to task about his raging misogyny. Now he’s gone after men as well. He wonders and ponders; exactly how do “feminist” men (more about that in a minute) handle the sight of cleavage without “turning into blubbering idiots.” > [@Would a man saying "I'm a feminist" to explain his lack of deferential manners to dates be OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-man-saying-im-a-feminist-to-explain-his-lack-of-deferential-manners-to-dates-be-ok/784578/83): > > I have to ask, do these “feminist” men still turn into blubbering idiots when they see a woman flashing alot of cleavage or otherwise, showing off alot of skin? Are they even turned on by big boobs or does that part of man-think go away? After becoming the target of some well-deserved barbs, he clarifies his question for all you uninformed, idiot women out in cyberspace by providing an exclusive inside report concerning exactly what occurs in the male brain when faced with unexpected cleavage. Here’s the entire post. > [@Would a man saying "I'm a feminist" to explain his lack of deferential manners to dates be OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-man-saying-im-a-feminist-to-explain-his-lack-of-deferential-manners-to-dates-be-ok/784578/95): > > Wow, are you clueless on men’s brains. > > Let’s say a guy drops something, you being the helpful person, bend over to pick it up for him and he gets a good look down the front of your shirt at your beautiful and ample busoms. When you stand up he stutters slightly and says thank you, or maybe… thank you! After getting hammered by a number of posters, he replies. > [@Would a man saying "I'm a feminist" to explain his lack of deferential manners to dates be OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-man-saying-im-a-feminist-to-explain-his-lack-of-deferential-manners-to-dates-be-ok/784578/116): > > To be honest, it gets confusing. > > **Can one be all for equal rights, equal pay, equal opportunity** , all that but still be proud to be a guy and ok to get turned on by a hot womans body? Granted I know you can look but dont touch or allow yourself to be seen looking. > > So I need to ask you, is a feminist man required to turn off the “boobies are hot” part of their brains? My bolding First note the rather low bar for “feminist” men, which he apparently doesn’t meet. So we know that he’s not “for equal rights, equal pay, equal opportunity, all that.” He ends his “contributions” to the thread by claiming that while he was misogynistic in the past, he’s past it. Well, not really past it, but hey, what’s a little hate between friends? > [@Would a man saying "I'm a feminist" to explain his lack of deferential manners to dates be OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-man-saying-im-a-feminist-to-explain-his-lack-of-deferential-manners-to-dates-be-ok/784578/125): > > Growing up I had some very immature and wrongful thought on women that have taken time for me to get rid of. **I’ve still got a ways to look beyond seeing a woman as a woman and not just a person and who have their own issues which may or may not be gender based.** My bolding Despite asking for input from feminist men, he refuses to return to answer the questions given to him. Of course he damn well knows how to behave if there is a guy to smash his face in, but since he doesn’t consider women as anything but sexual toys, “feminist” men, must somehow have turned into eunuchs to keep from slobbering. In a thread discussing women being groped by strangers, we get this additional insight into “all men.” > [@Women: share your stories of having your crotch grabbed (when you didn't want it)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/39): > > If I can toss this in. Thoughts of doing things like this go thru the minds of frankly… all men. At least at one time in their lives. Pretty sick I know. But, if we have any brains or morals we quickly suppress such disgusting thoughts especially when we think of the consequences or develop a conscience or morals. Yes I will admit I’ve had thoughts of doing some bad things. The lack of brains is obvious and zero indications of morals, but at least society can scare him into actually not acting out his rape fantasies. And no, sexually assaulting women doesn’t go through the minds of all men. With bad consequences the only thing which keeps him from assaulting women, what would happen if there were cases where he could get away from it? Well, we know that he doesn’t want to know about a child getting raped because of the problems it caused _her family_. You know, because little girls deserve to get raped, I guess. > [@Does withholding the names of sexual assault victims perpetuate the stigma of rape?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-withholding-the-names-of-sexual-assault-victims-perpetuate-the-stigma-of-rape/784501/16): > > I know of a woman who was raped when she was 13. > > Quite frankly, I wish I had not been told this. She is a strong, confident woman now in her 20’s but still it is hard for me not to think of her without thinking of this as part of her past life because the rape caused severe ramifications in her family. It’s not all sad. He does provide humor unintentionally showing his true colors at every opportunity. > [@Please explain todays woman and "50 Shades of Gray".](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-todays-woman-and-50-shades-of-gray/783693/27): > > I could be pretty cool on the first couple of dates with a woman. I had some good jokes, stories, etc… I could make a woman laugh, shower her with compliments and fun, really show her a good time. > > But then, I hate to admit it but I only had so much of that. Only so many funny stories. Only so much energy. Only so much money. That after awhile I just couldnt keep up that same level of energy into the relationship. > > Which to me is basically saying, after dating a person for awhile, things get real. Peoples true selves really show and maybe they are good but maybe not. Pretty obvious why his dates didn’t go beyond twice. Get a game plan, figure out how to bamboozle the stupid broads and set out to find some good ol’ sex. Too bad his “true self” shows through. Now a new generation of rednecks are waiting in line to take after Pop. > [@To the men, the first time a girl broke your heart?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-men-the-first-time-a-girl-broke-your-heart/784260/27): > > Well my son has to learn that women can be “interesting” creatures and it’s not easy to say, learn to read their signals (which can be ever changing), their moods, and to learn how to develop an emotional relationship with them OR when to step back and NOT get to close. In my sons case she wanted to just stay in the “friend” zone and he was hoping for more. Creatures. Of course. Creatures. > [@Reason for flaking on a date - is this typical?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reason-for-flaking-on-a-date-is-this-typical/775258/29): > > Remember, men are NEVER allowed to change their minds without express written permission of women. Women are OTOH, allowed to change at any times. It’s just how things are. Yup. It’s just the way they are. Redneck, you don’t even see why this is included in the list, do you? More wonderful advice: Women should stay at home > [@Lady Dopers- What does the state have to put on the table for you to make more babies?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-dopers-what-does-the-state-have-to-put-on-the-table-for-you-to-make-more-babies/781011/31): > > I do agree that it would help if a person could work only say 40-50 hours a week and that income was enough to support a spouse to stay home with the kids. By “person” he means a real, non-feminist man and “spouse” he means his husband. Just joking. Not surprisingly, the only formal education he seems to have is from watching tv. From the thread, “Where did you learn about Japanese internment?” > [@When did you learn about the Japanese internment?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-learn-about-the-japanese-internment/780429/38): > > From an episode of “Wonder Woman” with Lynda Carter. I’m shocked! Shocked I say. He must have had an off day and forgot about her boobs. One last thing. In a serious thread about bra sizes, he’s got to wander in to shit on the thread with his adolescent schoolboy humor. > [@Bra sizes. Please explain to this feeble male.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bra-sizes-please-explain-to-this-feeble-male/777286/25): > > Actually they are quite simple: > > A = almost there > B = Barely there > C = Cant complain > D = Damn! OK, one more thing: Fucking learn the difference between “there,” “their” and “they’re.” I guess Wonder Woman didn’t provide spelling lessons. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/2 "2017-05-03T15:04:20Z")
Busoms (sic) plural? On one woman? ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/3 "2017-05-03T15:07:50Z")
Fully support this pitting. People like urbanredneck are why we have Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/4 "2017-05-03T15:09:45Z")
And here I’m surprised he hasn’t been pitted for his “I want to post all the anti-vax memes but you meanies won’t let me without criticism!” stance. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/5 "2017-05-03T15:12:15Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Fully support this pitting. People like urbanredneck are why we have Trump. This. Oh, so, this. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/6 "2017-05-03T15:13:49Z")
Jesus christ. I know a lot “rural rednecks” - in fact that would be most of my family. By and large, they manage to treat women as actual people - not walking tits, or “interesting” creatures - So we can’t blame the rampant misogyny on the redneck part of him. I really want to know what he thinks he gets to do to a random naked woman on the street. He seemed very put out that a feminist friend told him he can’t do anything about it. ETA to add quote: > [@Would a man saying "I'm a feminist" to explain his lack of deferential manners to dates be OK?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-man-saying-im-a-feminist-to-explain-his-lack-of-deferential-manners-to-dates-be-ok/784578/115): > > That is pretty close to my thinking. > > I think [this picture](http://www.chucklebuzz.com/hooters-protester-women-funny-caption-image/258/) explains it. > > It just seems to me that “feminists” hate it when say men get turned on by sexy women’s bodies. That whole term “objectification” is they get mad at men for being… well men. I knew one woman who told me “I should be able to walk down the street totally naked and you shouldnt do anything about it”. Probably also why so many feminist women dress so dumpy. It sounds quite a lot like “doing something” would be just men being men. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/7 "2017-05-03T15:19:29Z")
Urbanredneck: an entire town full of stupid. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/8 "2017-05-03T15:27:24Z")
When I encounter such thinking I am always reminded of how very apt a phrase, ‘beneath contempt’, really and truly is. I have a suspicion this level of ignorance cannot be shifted, it’s way too willful and proud. Save your breath, is the best advice. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/9 "2017-05-03T15:35:51Z")
IANAW but I suspect “so many feminist women dress so dumpy” because they’re tired of being accused of leading men on whenever they dress nicely. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/10 "2017-05-03T15:38:06Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > IANAW but I suspect “so many feminist women dress so dumpy” because they’re tired of being accused of leading men on whenever they dress nicely. Quite a few of us wear whatever’s comfortable. Sometimes that’s dumpy, sometimes it’s not. (And I am sorry if that sounds snippy, it is not meant to be. ) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/11 "2017-05-03T15:44:52Z")
There are two kinds of heterosexual men - those that look at women’s boobs, and those that lie about looking at women’s boobs. Feminist men tend to fall into the second category. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/12 "2017-05-03T15:51:20Z")
Feminism is about how you treat people, not what thoughts are in your head. Ogling women openly can be disrespectful and some women will find it frightening – more than reason enough not to do it. If you’re unable (due to lack of discipline, moral weakness, general patheticness, etc.) to keep your gaze from very obviously sinking to women’s chests, then wear some damn sunglasses. But most feminists couldn’t care less what you’re thinking as long as you’re decent and respectful to other people. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/13 "2017-05-03T15:52:03Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Quite a few of us wear whatever’s comfortable. Sometimes that’s dumpy, sometimes it’s not. > > (And I am sorry if that sounds snippy, it is not meant to be. ) Blame whichever _Homo_ first invented clothing. _Homo Erectus_ was it? ETA: Apparently, clothing was invented \*after \*[humans evolved, which surprises me.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/16/1329468/-Getting-Naked-How-Early-Humans-Lost-Their-Fur) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/14 "2017-05-03T15:53:54Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Feminism is about how you treat people, not what thoughts are in your head. Ogling women openly can be disrespectful and some women will find it frightening – more than reason enough not to do it. > > If you’re unable (due to lack of discipline, moral weakness, general patheticness, etc.) to keep your gaze from very obviously sinking to women’s chests, then wear some damn sunglasses. > > But most feminists couldn’t care less what you’re thinking as long as you’re decent and respectful to other people. Fortunately **TokyoBayer** helpfully quoted **Urbanredneck** saying pretty much the same thing - > [@](#): > > Can one be all for equal rights, equal pay, equal opportunity, all that but still be proud to be a guy and ok to get turned on by a hot womans body? Granted I know you can look but dont touch or allow yourself to be seen looking. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/15 "2017-05-03T15:55:47Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > There are two kinds of heterosexual men - those that look at women’s boobs, and those that lie about looking at women’s boobs. Feminist men tend to fall into the second category. Glad to know that you’re another asshole who can only keep your eyes on a woman’s face when she’s got her guy with her. Or didn’t you actually read the thread? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/16 "2017-05-03T16:02:21Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Fortunately **TokyoBayer** helpfully quoted **Urbanredneck** saying pretty much the same thing - > Regards, > Shodan That’s not the same thing (or particularly close, IMO) as my post except in comparison to all the other silly things he said. Mine was specifically about how actions, not thoughts, matter, with regards to feminism (and IMO being a decent person in general). Multiple things the target of this OP said conflict with my post (and perhaps even with his own later post). ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/17 "2017-05-03T16:06:43Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Fortunately **TokyoBayer** helpfully quoted **Urbanredneck** saying pretty much the same thing - > Regards, > Shodan Huh. You know, UR mentioned not being allowed to be seen looking, but the point of that snippet was actually more along the lines of “I am totally turned on by boobies, so I want to know if I \*were \*to support all the ideals of feminism, would I have to stop being turned on by boobies? please note: I am not for those things, otherwise I would not have to ask, and also, BOOBIES.” ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/18 "2017-05-03T16:09:58Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That’s not the same thing (or particularly close, IMO) as my post except in comparison to all the other silly things he said. Mine was specifically about how actions, not thoughts, matter, with regards to feminism (and IMO being a decent person in general). Multiple things the target of this OP said conflict with my post (and perhaps even with his own later post). It addressed directly the only thing your post mentioned - openly ogling women. Which **Urbanredneck** said that he doesn’t do. _:shrugs:_ If you are going to deny what you say, no discussion is possible. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/19 "2017-05-03T16:18:35Z")
**Shodan** , I doubt there are very many heterosexual men who are completely indifferent to women’s breasts, but it might surprise you to learn that, even on a purely physical level, not all men find breasts to be the most attractive part of a woman’s body. And I expect even among those who do, most can prevent themselves from staring. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779/20 "2017-05-03T16:20:06Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It addressed directly the only thing your post mentioned - openly ogling women. Which **Urbanredneck** said that he doesn’t do. > > _:shrugs:_ If you are going to deny what you say, no discussion is possible. > > Regards, > Shodan Forgot – opinions can’t differ with snarky **Shodan**. I can only be wrong – I can’t disagree. If thoughtful **Shodan** shows up and wants to discuss things, let me know. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-urbanredneck-stop-slobbering-over-boobs-and-no-real-men-don-t/785779.md?page=2)