# Hey Wendy's, what part of "no cheese" don't you understand??? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398 "2006-01-31T20:47:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/81 "2006-02-02T21:50:52Z")
> [@Dung Beetle](#): > > Ignorance has been fought here today. I didn’t realize they didn’t have pre-made sandwiches anymore. In all fairness, they may have them _somewhere_ - it just doesn’t appear to be the norm. I think whichever chain started the first ad kick about having customized burgers, or about not preparing them until you order them, caused the others to have to fall in line. The only reason I remembered that they ever had premade sandwiches was I recall my Mom telling me that whenever my Grandmother would take me to McDonald’s as a wee lad, my Grandmother would order a fish sandwich with no mayo - even though she liked mayo - so they’d have to make her a fresh sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![Graelyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/57b2e6/32.png) [@Graelyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Graelyn)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/82 "2023-01-31T18:25:31Z")
Wendy’s use to sell singles, doubles, triples with and without cheese. They had different prices on the menu board. Cheese and tomato were extra. In recent years, the singles, double, and triples along with the kids burger are no longer in the menu. Also, no cheese is the same price as cheese. The problem with trying to remove the cheese is that all of the toppings are on top of it. Best to be that customer who checks the order before leaving the store or drive through. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/83 "2023-01-31T19:22:30Z")
I always order the double cheeseburger with pickle, relish, mayonnaise, cheese, ketchup, tartar sauce and cheese. It hasn’t got so much cheese in it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/84 "2023-01-31T19:39:30Z")
The thing is, the “cheese” in question is often NOT the real thing, but “cheese food”, that vile crap they sell in the dairy section of the grocery store. If it was, say, a nice healthy slice of pure unadulterated Swiss, then yeah I’d go for that. Not something which isn’t real food. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/85 "2023-01-31T19:51:46Z")
I feel the OP’s pain, even all these years later. I order my burgers without cheese, and I estimate that they still put cheese on them 10-20% of the time. Even a Whopper, which isn’t supposed to come with cheese, still gets cheese on it sometimes. I’m not allergic or intolerant, and I don’t despise cheese, I just prefer most burgers without it. Only once have I made a fuss and asked for a new burger. All I can think is that it’s just force of habit for the cooks to just slap a slice of two of cheese on every burger that passes before them. I even started a similar thread a few years ago. > [@Cheeseburger hegemony](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeseburger-hegemony/816066): > > Has anyone else noticed the demise of the humble, yet iconic, hamburger from restaurant menus in this great land? I was at a restaurant today and ordered a hamburger, and received a cheeseburger. Seems like every hamburger comes with cheese as the default now, which, to my mind, makes it not a hamburger anymore. Want a QuarterPounder at McDonald’s? You’re out of luck, unless you order a Quarter Pounder with Cheese without the cheese. Take a look at the [page](https://menu.wendys.com/en_US/category/hamburgers/) labeled “Hamburgers” at Wendy’s a… ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/86 "2023-01-31T20:05:08Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I feel the OP’s pain, even all these years later. I order my burgers without cheese, and I estimate that they still put cheese on them 10-20% of the time I order without ketchup, mustard, etc. I say they screw up 30-40% of the time. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/87 "2023-01-31T21:34:52Z")
My standard order for a “premium” burger (Whopper, Jumbo Jack &c) is tomato and pickle only. Then one time I got my order and found lettuce and pickle … but no burger. Fortunately I was eating in so I could take it back to the counter. The counterperson was horrified; I thought it was kind of funny. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/88 "2023-01-31T23:32:54Z")
I had a McDonald’s burger once, when I was eleven years old. It came with some yellow plastic stuff on top of the burger patty. I assume this is the “cheese” or “cheese-like substance” that is the topic of many of the gripes in this thread. It was meant to be a treat, paid for by my aunt. I have never been back to McDonalds. She is, though, still my favorite aunt. Can’t judge a person for one lapse. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/89 "2023-01-31T23:50:53Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > The thing is, the “cheese” in question is often NOT the real thing, but “cheese food”, that vile crap they sell in the dairy section of the grocery store. If it was, say, a nice healthy slice of pure unadulterated Swiss, then yeah I’d go for that. Not something which isn’t real food. It’s American cheese. All that “cheese food” means is that it’s cheese that’s been melted and re-solidified. Purists might decree that that doesn’t count as cheese any more, but it’s still the same stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/90 "2023-01-31T23:58:54Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > The thing is, the “cheese” in question is often NOT the real thing, but “cheese food”, that vile crap they sell in the dairy section of the grocery store. If it was, say, a nice healthy slice of pure unadulterated Swiss, then yeah I’d go for that. Not something which isn’t real food. Processed cheese food is real food, even if it is arguably not “real” cheese; it is usually about 50% cheese and 50% other dairy products, generally designed so that it will melt evenly and quickly. Also, the dairy section in my supermarket includes many real cheeses. They are not imported artisanal sheep’s-milk cheeses sprinkled with truffles and gold leaf, but they are real cheese, some of them quite delicious. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/91 "2023-02-01T00:25:00Z")
My favorite McRonalds breakfast item is the sausage muffin. Not the sausage muffin with egg, but the simple and elegant and almost perfect sausage muffin. I get it without cheese. The sausage patty and the buttered english muffin are a perfect sandwich in my opinion. But it comes with cheese, so I order it without cheese. Too often they can’t handle the “without cheese” aspect of the order. They’ve gone so deceptively far as to scrape the cheese off of an already prepared one, and rewrap it for me. (Richton Park, Il McRonalds on Cicero and Sauk Trail!) Try getting the cheese remnants out of all those little sausage surface pockets. Not without a hose, I tell you. So I order the sausage biscuit, because it naturally comes without cheese. But I really wanted the one on the buttered muffin. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/92 "2023-02-01T01:37:38Z")
“Sausage biscuit, sub muffin.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/93 "2023-02-01T02:15:47Z")
Huh. I’m surprised I didn’t post in this thread when it was first active, because unwanted cheese on burgers has been the bane of my existence my entire life. Any time I order a burger at a fast food place, I won’t walk away from the counter until I’ve taken it out of the bag and unwrapped it to confirm it’s cheeseless. I’ve even encountered this problem ordering burgers on Doordash, where the burger is customizable, toppings are a long list of boxes to check off, and cheese often explicitly costs extra. Doordash is at least hyper-responsive to mistakes and will instantly offer a generous credit or refund. Still, I’ll put in the notes to the driver that I’d like them to visually inspect the burger and they have my permission to break the little seal on the bag if the restaurant puts one on there, and sometimes they actually do that. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/94 "2023-02-01T02:20:07Z")
You know, I’ve tried to do the special order thing, but I’ve found that with even the most basic, one thing to think of request, like “no cheese”, comma, even that gets screwed up. I can totally empathize with the OP here, who simply wanted no cheese. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/95 "2023-02-18T13:40:20Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@Feydeau](#): > > > > But what would be the _point?_ They’d just have more cheese on them. > > They’d be practice meals, at which **Alias** could try all our helpful suggestions! > > Daniel Here’s a helpful suggestion: try asking for the cheese on the side. Cheese is expensive, and managers do not want to give you extra cheese if they can avoid it. So there’s a chance they will give you your cheese on the side instead of on the burger, then you can just throw it away. ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/96 "2023-02-19T19:45:13Z")
I have a similar problem with Wendy’s, but with mustard. They can’t stop themselves from putting mustard on a burger. They also have salads that are nice if they have all of the special toppings, but they can’t handle putting all of the little packets of candied nuts and things in the bag. I don’t even try to go there anymore. I don’t mind an occasional mixup, but I don’t feel like dealing with fixing mistakes every time I go there. And now it turns out that I might have that weird meat allergy, so I might be burgerless for a while. ---
**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/97 "2023-02-20T22:41:42Z")
I am that customer. I will dig through my bag to get my sandwich to make sure it is made correctly while holding up the line. I have complained through the customer service number and got a personal apology from the manager the next time I was in. I like Wendy’s grilled chicken but hate the honey mustard sauce. So I order with just tomato. They still screw that up occasionally usually when I am in a hurry to get back to my desk and forget to check. I one time got my grilled chicken with cheese, mustard, onion and ketchup like it was a hamburger. I also one time had ordered my chicken sandwich and some nuggets and got home and didn’t have my sandwich. Got back and they said “We knew you would be back for that.” Why do I keep going back to them? Wendy’s has good grilled chicken sandwiches and near where I work the options are very limited. Wendy’s, MacDonald’s and Subway are it unless you want an additional 10 minute drive each way. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/98 "2023-02-20T23:21:42Z")
Honestly, after 17 years that burger probably isn’t good to eat anyway. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/99 "2023-03-03T02:46:53Z")
The correct way to place a special order… [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HrIeP798hiQ/hqdefault.jpg "Just give me all the bacon and eggs you have...") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrIeP798hiQ) ---
**Author:** ![fordgt100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fordgt100](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fordgt100)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398/100 "2023-03-03T02:48:27Z")
Next time, just tell them you want cheese. That should get you what you want. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-wendys-what-part-of-no-cheese-dont-you-understand/342398.md?page=6)