# Hey, xxxxxxxxxx is in it - so it must be OK!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 18, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891 "2006-03-18T12:55:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/41 "2006-03-19T06:23:25Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> So I assume you never saw **Jurassic Park III** or **Omen III: The Final Conflict**?

Quite right. Nor\*\* Jurassic Park II \*\* or any numbered **Omen** s.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/42 "2006-03-19T07:02:53Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> DeNiro is a good candidate. Looking back through [his resume](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000134/), I don’t see anything that was truly, monumentally unwatchable; _Backdraft_ is about as damning as it gets.

Rocky and Bullwinkle?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/43 "2006-03-19T07:44:06Z")

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> [@Wendell Wagner](#):
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> Given that Hepburn died quite a while ago, and she hasn’t been a star for a while longer than that, story.

Uh, Hepburn was still a star even when she died. No, she hadn’t been in any major movies, but she was more than that-she was a _legend_. Just because her last movie wasn’t the next _Breakfast at Tiffanys_ ddidn’t make her a has-been.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/44 "2006-03-19T08:26:26Z")

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> [@Stranger On A Train](#):
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> There are, however, actors who can elevate a film despite poor writing and direction

Tilda Swinton. For example, I cannot in good conscience recommend [_Teknolust_](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0270688), but hey, Tilda Swinton’s in it. Also don’t you wish there was more of her in _Constantine_?

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/45 "2006-03-19T09:07:33Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Rocky and Bullwinkle?

_Rocky and Bullwinkle_ had an intelligent, ironic charm that I didn’t expect it to pull off.

It was better than _Backdraft_. (How’s that for “damning with faint praise”?)

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**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/46 "2006-03-19T17:37:10Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Parker Posey. This is a bit biased since I’ve only seen a few of her films (Best in Show, Waiting for Guffman, House of Yes, Clockwatchers, a few others) and I see she’s got quite a few credits on IMDB.
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> But man, Parker Posey is HAWT with an “A-W”! And hilarious! The knockout combination!
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> Oh, how I want to marry Parker Posey.

I agree. However she was in Blade Trinity but I don’t really mind. I actually was fairly amused by it. Another character called her a “cock juggling thundercunt” and that has stuck with me ever since. I forgive her bad movies because she is definately hot to trot.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/47 "2006-03-19T18:03:13Z")

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How about George Clooney? _Intolerable Cruelty_ wasn’t the greatest, but it’s not a real turd either. He doesn’t have the really long film career of most of these people, though, so that works to his advantage.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/48 "2006-03-19T18:16:08Z")

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> [@Rucksinator](#):
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> Many years ago I thought this about Kiefer Sutherland, (couldn’t have been too many years after Lost Boys) so I rented a movie that I had never heard of because he was in it. This was when I learned the exception to the rule.

Just don’t even TRY to try this with Donald. For an actor, the guy works like a musician. “Yeah, I’m free. What’s it pay?..Yeah, I’ll take it.”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/49 "2006-03-20T16:20:06Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I’ve seen all of his stuff from 1996-2005 (just checked out his IMDB profile. I’ve got some catching up to do!) and it is indeed all excellent. Although I have been told I am weird because I liked “Death to Smoochy.”

I bought and enjoyed the DVD just yesterday, and I’m reminded of another actor who I can trust - Catherine Keener.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/50 "2006-03-20T16:30:43Z")

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> [@RogueRacer](#):
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> What was wrong with Mars Attacks?!

The crappiness, mostly.

As an acquaintance of mine said, “Wait until this movie comes out on video… then go rent something else.”

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/51 "2006-03-20T17:13:21Z")

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I always like seeing Michael Caine. The movie can be utter crap but he’s always good. I once saw him in an interview where the question was “how do you choose your roles?” and he said “oh, I just do anything I’m offered. I’ve done some movies that I knew perfectly well were going to be extremely bad, others which I though would be bad but in the end they weren’t. I’ve learned something from each of my jobs.”

Denzel Washington, Tommy Lee Jones, John Cusack, Joan Cusack. John Cusack has no problems naming the movies he did for food - but I always like _his_ work.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/52 "2006-03-20T17:44:02Z")

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Given that there is NO movie, no matter how lauded by critics and the general population, that won’t be considered a “stinker” by at least some people, I nominate:

David Straithairn  
Chris Cooper  
Ian Holm  
Cate Blanchett  
Katherine Hepburn (you didn’t say it had to be living actors . . . )

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/53 "2006-03-20T17:57:53Z")

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William Hurt…

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**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/54 "2006-03-20T18:46:44Z")

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> [@JThunder](#):
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> The crappiness, mostly.

Each to their own I guess. I enjoyed the reverse B movie feel to it (ie. you could tell they spent a pile of money making it look like crap).

To answer the OP, I’m sure there are bad movies in there, but it seems that Sean Penn has ran up quit a filmography in the last decade or two. I’m not much of a fan though for some reason.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/55 "2006-03-21T00:18:56Z")

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My post about **Audrey Hepburn** and **Dustin Hoffman** seems to have started a few ripples. I think the film on the marquee was _Robin and Marian,_ which I would recommend to anyone, and which was very late in Audrey’s career. Now, was the story from Hoffman, or was it from Dreyfuss? I wouldn’t bet my dog on it either way. **If I’m wrong, I apologize.**

If I had known, long ago, that I’d have to document the things I said, I would have saved all the magazines I ever read, and videotaped everything I ever saw. If I had done that, my wife of 27 years would surely have left me long ago, and I would be known as the city’s crazy man (more than I am now.) 😉

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/56 "2006-03-21T00:42:07Z")

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**Tom Hanks  
Liam Neeson**

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/57 "2006-03-22T23:05:22Z")

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AskNott writes:

\> I wouldn’t bet my dog on it either way.

I would. It was Dreyfuss. I don’t have to save magazines. (I’ve already got an apartment stuffed with books, so there’s room for saving magazines.) I remember the question, the interview, the magazine, and some of the other articles in the magazine quite clearly.

Of course, I don’t own a dog, so I don’t care if I lose my nonexistent dog in a bet.

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**Author:** ![Gordon\_Urquhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gordon\_Urquhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_Urquhart)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/58 "2006-03-22T23:49:13Z")

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Although _Mission to Mars_ was a hiccup in his career, **Gary Sinise** was a force that beckoned me to the theater. Then he was in _The Forgotten_.

Speaking of which, **Julianne Moore** is on Hiccup Status for _The Forgotten_. Likewise, both **Jodie Foster** and **Peter Sarsgaard** are on Hiccup Status for _Flightplan_. I’ll go see pretty much any movie with Moore, Foster and Sarsgaard, but they’re walking on thin ice.

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/59 "2006-03-23T00:02:35Z")

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> [@Beware of Doug](#):
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> Just don’t even TRY to try this with Donald. For an actor, the guy works like a musician. “Yeah, I’m free. What’s it pay?..Yeah, I’ll take it.”

This makes me think of back in the 80s when Dan Aykroyd was making films like “My Stepmother is an Alien”. Spy Magazine included him in a “Separated at Birth?” book, and listed his occupation as “Indiscriminate Script Approver”.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-xxxxxxxxxx-is-in-it-so-it-must-be-ok/348891/60 "2006-03-23T07:09:07Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Isn’t Harry Dean Stanton in _Down Periscope_, the wretched submarine comedy with Kelsey Grammer and Rob Schneider?

He was also in the classic '80s crapfest, _Red Dawn_, giving perhaps the worst performance of his career, screaming through a chain-link fence, “Avenge me!”

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