# Hi, Jack! (ckalli1998) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 11, 2017, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922 "2017-03-11T07:08:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/81 "2017-03-11T22:35:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Trump promised repeal and replace. Not only that, he promised Trumpcare would cover more people at a lower cost. How’s that workin’ out for ya? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/82 "2017-03-11T22:37:04Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > They decided not to do it for operational reasons since Obama was leaving, and they decided to leave it to his successor. I’d like to say you know better than that, but you obviously do not. Now go use some of those mad honor-student skillz and educate yourself. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/83 "2017-03-11T22:37:28Z")
Everyone knows the grave risks that our grave men and women in the Armed Forces face every day, but we can’t not send troops to perform a sound, smart and valid cause, such as instituting safe zones in Syria, because of the dangers they face. If we go by that logic then we should never ever send troops anywhere. The Iraq war was not a smart or valid cause for the US to engage in, but instituting protections like safe zones for the Syrians over there and helping stop ISIS is. Doesn’t make me a neocon, or a hypocrite, or whatever. It was one of Trump’s longstanding ideas to send troops to Syria not to try and overthrow the Assad regime, but to battle ISIS and give relief to war-storm Syrians ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/84 "2017-03-11T22:41:10Z")
The raid you’re loyally trying to defend was in _Yemen_. It had nothing to do with safe zones, either. Gawdamighty, kid. BTW, when are you enlisting? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/85 "2017-03-11T22:44:38Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The raid you’re loyally trying to defend was in _Yemen_. It had nothing to do with safe zones, either. > > Gawdamighty, kid. > > BTW, when are you enlisting? I’m not, and I’m defending the Yemen raid because it was a successful one but admittedly with a tragic cost to our country, but it made us safer by giving us intel on anti-American al-Qaeda extremists. And I was just speaking about my philosophy generally ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/86 "2017-03-11T22:47:51Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > They decided not to do it for operational reasons since Obama was leaving, and they decided to leave it to his successor. Cite, you gutless lying plagiarist. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/87 "2017-03-11T22:49:38Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m not a hypocrite; I never said that Obama should have tried to overthrow Assad with regime change. I have said that I do support sending troops to battle ISIS over there, and believe that working with some Russian forces in Syria as a last resort. Doesn’t make me a neocon or a hypocrite It makes you gutless. If you think that’s what America should do, then volunteer to serve, since you’re willing to risk the lives of the friends I served with. Or is your supposed patriotism just a cover for cowardice? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/88 "2017-03-11T22:51:17Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m not, and I’m defending the Yemen raid because it was a successful one but admittedly with a tragic cost to our country, but it made us safer by giving us intel on anti-American al-Qaeda extremists. And I was just speaking about my philosophy generally al-Qaeda isn’t much of a threat to the States. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/89 "2017-03-11T22:51:54Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It makes you gutless. If you think that’s what America should do, then volunteer to serve. Or is your supposed patriotism just a cover for cowardice? So any American who supports sending troops to Syria to establish safe-zones against violent ISIS radicals is a “coward” because they’re not personally on the front lines? Does that make Tim Kaine a coward? He supported safe zones, after all. Do you have any idea how cramped and intellectually incoherent your position is? ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/90 "2017-03-11T22:59:18Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Cite, you gutless lying plagiarist. I did when I first mentioned it if you bothered to read before calling me gutless as you always do, but I’ll do it again just for you:[http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/us-raid-yemen/](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/us-raid-yemen/) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/91 "2017-03-11T23:41:15Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > So any American who supports sending troops to Syria to establish safe-zones against violent ISIS radicals is a “coward” because they’re not personally on the front lines? Does that make Tim Kaine a coward? He supported safe zones, after all. Do you have any idea how cramped and intellectually incoherent your position is? Tim Kaine’s son is a Marine. So no, he doesn’t qualify as gutless in this instance. If he were a 19 year old college student advocating for something that would put the lives of my friends in serious danger, without volunteering himself, he certainly would. Anyone who advocates for risking American lives without sharing in that risk in some fashion is a gutless coward. If you are who you say you are, you certainly qualify. Own it, coward. Own your plagiarism. Own your support for a repeated liar who’s made multiple racist and misogynistic statements. Own your own actions and advocacy without making excuses. Don’t be such a gutless lying coward. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/92 "2017-03-11T23:44:09Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I did when I first mentioned it if you bothered to read before calling me gutless as you always do, but I’ll do it again just for you:[http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/us-raid-yemen/](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/us-raid-yemen/) Okay, I apologize for calling you a liar in this specific instance. See? That’s what honorable people do when they make a mistake – they admit it and apologize. Maybe someday you won’t be such a gutless coward and you’ll actually take responsibility for your own advocacy and actions. It’s far too late for Trump to stop being such a gutless liar, but you’re young and have plenty of time to improve yourself. Perhaps you should consider it. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/93 "2017-03-11T23:46:24Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Okay, I apologize for calling you a liar in this specific instance. > > See? That’s what honorable people do when they make a mistake – they admit it and apologize. Maybe someday you won’t be such a gutless coward and you’ll actually take responsibility for your own advocacy and actions. I’m neither gutless nor am I a coward. I’m just a young guy excited for the future ahead. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/94 "2017-03-12T00:01:54Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m neither gutless nor am I a coward. I’m just a young guy excited for the future ahead. Then prove it. Sign up at the local recruiting office. I’d be happy to talk to you about my experience and make recommendations about the different branches. If you want to put your fellow Americans, including many friends of mine, in harms’ way, then have the courage to stand with them. If you not, you’re a sniveling gutless coward, certainly not a patriot. Patriots are willing to risk their own lives when they think it’s important. Evidently you are not. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/95 "2017-03-12T00:16:17Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m neither gutless nor am I a coward. I’m just a young guy excited for the future ahead. Like Cheney, you have “other priorities”. I see. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/96 "2017-03-12T00:21:08Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m defending the Yemen raid because it was a successful one By what measure? Hannity telling you so? > [@](#): > > it made us safer by giving us intel on anti-American al-Qaeda extremists. No, it did not. It gave us a ten year old video available on YouTube. Enough with your “alternative facts”. Your repeating them from sources you should know not to trust makes you worse than a mere liar; you’re a \*foolish \*liar. The liars you unquestioningly choose to believe at least know it and have reasons for doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/97 "2017-03-12T00:26:26Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Here’s the post where\* Jack \*actually shows something other than mindless cheerleading of the Trump administration and the American right wing: > > OK, there’s hope for you yet. > > That said– > > You appear to be a college boy, and you think you’re clever. You are going to spend the next two years getting the cocksureness trained out of you, if you’re lucky. If you’re unlucky, you’ll skate through school and turn into another overgrown adolescent with a degree, like Ted Cruz. > > I have _socks_ older than you, in more than one sense. (Not on this board, though. Don’t do that.) I get where you’re coming from. You \*will \*end up disillusioned with the GOP, if you keep learning and are willing to swallow your juvenile pride and certainty. The alternative to disillusionment is to close your mind, and turn into something like Dick Cheney, or a more well-spoken version of **Clothahump**. That’d be a small tragedy. Not really, since I agree with a lot of what he says. And if you think my attitude is disagreeable, simply realize that I am responding in kind for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/98 "2017-03-12T00:27:19Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I agree with a lot of what he says. Of course you do, bless your heart. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/99 "2017-03-12T00:40:46Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > So are we raking _any_ Republican that joins this board over the coals now? Even the teenagers? New here? It’s standard practice, and it’s pretty revolting. Discussion? Nah. Group-think? Yeah. Counter-opinions aren’t welcome. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922/100 "2017-03-12T00:42:54Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > So are we raking _any_ Republican that joins this board over the coals now? Even the teenagers? Just the unapologetic plagiarists. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-jack-ckalli1998/781922.md?page=6)